Michael Giacchino's Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) - 2022 Expanded Edition now available

[Disco Stu 15,495]

13 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Yes, he does.

 

 I had no idea!

[Will 2,215]

28 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Yes, he does.

 

I don't remember it from TFA...

 

Are you talking about the other six?

 

Also, if they used the exact ANH sheet music, why a credit for Spencer but not for JW in the end credits?

 

I'm confused. Are we sure this isn't the original Spencer's kid or something? 

 

Well, I guess if they did literally use the same exact sheet music or, particularly, recording as one of the OT films that might explain why the OST doesn't seem to include the end credits opening.

[Erik Woods 555]

7 hours ago, ymenard said:

 

More, say, than Medal of Honor or Secret Weapons over Normandy?

 

I guess this era of Giacchino is over will never come back again.  Perhaps that since it happened so early in his career, it was just a rush of artistic liberation especially if you consider he wasn't constrain on tracking anything in these early video games (no click track or intense spotting).

 

 

There has ALWAYS been a click track.

 

-Erik-

[Jay 37,283]

11 minutes ago, Will said:

I don't remember it from TFA...

 

Are you talking about the other six?

 

Oh sorry, I was talking about the original 3 films, which he worked on . I dunno if he got credited on 1-3 or 7 or not

[Disco Stu 15,495]

9 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Oh sorry, I was talking about the original 3 films, which he worked on . I dunno if he got credited on 1-3 or 7 or not

 

Oh. Yeah, that's what I meant above.  Interesting that Spencer gets credited for Rogue One but not for the saga films made after his death.

 

That's what I meant about them pulling the sheet music used in the original '77 sessions being a possible reason for requiring the Spencer credit.

[mrbellamy 6,272]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Mine only just shipped today.

[Jay 37,283]

@mrbellamy how did you get it early?

[mrbellamy 6,272]

Not my photo  

 

Sorry that was misleading but a sign of life, anyway!

[MikeH 768]

It's Herb Spencer's photo! 

[Lockdown 238]

 

[Jay 37,283]

Read 5 posts above yours.

[Lockdown 238]

Yeah, I was linking to the source?

[mstrox 6,646]

DannyDawg at r slash StarWarsLeaks would be grateful

[KK 3,307]

7 hours ago, Jay said:

Super 8 and Tomorrowland are his most Williams-sounding scores.

 

Tomorrowland sounds nothing like Williams.

 

Medal of Honor bares resemblance to Williams largely because of the construction of the action set-pieces.

[Lockdown 238]

Apparently, if it doesn't leak by then, it'll be posted on another Forums at 7 AM EST tomorrow.

[Jay 37,283]

9 minutes ago, Lockdown said:

Yeah, I was linking to the source?

 

Ah, my bad!

[Lockdown 238]

What is this?

 

https://www.cdbaby.com/cd/sadzidhusic112

[Jay 37,283]

Some kid having fun

[Bilbo 3,709]

The score is serviceable. Nothing more. Not a single memorable new theme. One of them sounds like someone heard Across the Stars once and then tried to play it from memory but badly. 

 

The new imperial theme makes you wonder why he didn't just use the imperial March because it just sounds like a pale imitation. 

 

Way too much over bombastic brass that just sounds obnoxious and loud. 

 

He used JW's themes better but on first impression I think JW is a better score. 

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Bilbo 3,709]

My cinema played the OST as we were waiting for the film to start. Was a nice touch. 

[BloodBoal 7,538]

The last time I remember that happening was for The Two Towers. Now that I think about it, that was the only time I remember that happening.

[Lockdown 238]

http://disneystudiosawards.com/awards/rogue-one

[Jay 37,283]

Indeed http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26697-2016-for-your-consideration-studio-sites-featuring-music/&do=findComment&comment=1299953

[Will 2,215]

44 minutes ago, Lockdown said:

Apparently, if it doesn't leak by then, it'll be posted on another Forums at 7 AM EST tomorrow.

 

AM? Not PM?

[Lockdown 238]

Morning, apparently.

[Chewy 2,374]

Just back from seeing the film. I'm a Star Wars fan and I loved it. I also loved the score too! Giacchino really tries to imitate John style without doing the exact same thing and it works really well with the movie.

I definitely disagree with people saying there's no memorable themes because there are: that Empire theme has been in my head since I left the cinema. Jyn's theme sounds pretty nice as well. I noticed the other theme which has that similar intro to 'Across the Stars' and I think it's perfectly apropriate for the character it's associated with (forgot the name of that 'force' guy).

 

So yeah, I'm not disappointed at all, and I really look forward to getting my CD!

[Will 2,215]

37 minutes ago, Lockdown said:

Morning, apparently.

 

So, just to reiterate -- in the United States, you mean Thursday at 7 AM (morning) on the East Coast? 

[Lockdown 238]

Yes, you know where. (it will leak)

[Jay 37,283]

Guys, please don't use this board to openly discuss illegal music leaks, and when/where to get them. There are so many other places you can go to do that. We're just here to talk about the music, not where to get it. 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I'm just surprised to find out ChewyBomber is a Star Wars fan.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

I watched the Vader clip and the music sounded like a fucking parody score.  

[SilverTrumpet 638]

Just now, Not Mr. Big said:

I watched the Vader clip and the music sounded like a fucking parody score.  

 

Whaaaaa? If it's the clip I accidentally clicked on it sounded like Anakin's Dark Deeds. 

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

1 minute ago, SilverTrumpet said:

 

Whaaaaa? If it's the clip I accidentally clicked on it sounded like Anakin's Dark Deeds. 

Yeah, a parody version of it.  The choir singing whole-note WAAAAAAAAAAAAAs on two alternating minor key chords.   

[Damien F 1,742]

From a film review:

 

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A simple shot of a ship taking off becomes an occasion for over-the-top crescendos.

It’s an utterly mad and desperate misuse of music

 

 

The review is here but I haven't read it all so I don't know if it contains spoilers http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/Rogue-One-crashes-and-burns-with-its-own-self-importance.html

 

To be fair, I have seen some film reviews that praise the score, but once again this is an example of a film critics jumping on the 'scores should be little more than sound design' bandwagon. I mean, a ship taking off is a perfect reason for a crescendo and we got loads of that in the prequel trilogy.

 

It is another example of the gulf that exists between film critics and score fans, and I don't understand this recent trend. I wonder do most critics really understand exactly why they are complaining about orchestral music or are they simply following the trend without giving it any greater thought.

 

Could you imagine if Jurassic Park was released today and the nonsense that critics would probably write about the Journey To The Island music:

 

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The breathtaking visual effects are forced to fight for attention due to John Williams' overbearing and emotionally manipulative score. Sam Neil and Jeff Goldblum are perfectly capable of conveying the awe and wonder of the moment without the distracting music telling the audience exactly what to feel. A mundane commute to work by helicopter is accompanied by a ridiculously grandiose fanfare. Madness!

 

[Will 2,215]

@dfenton85

 

Yes, as a film score fan I'm very excited to hear these "over-the-top" crescendos. 

[justaguy 68]

19 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said:

I watched the Vader clip and the music sounded like a fucking parody score.  

What clip exactly, sir?

[SilverTrumpet 638]

1 minute ago, zaddini said:

What clip exactly, sir?

Spoiler leak. Nothing official. You'll want to keep it a surprise for the movie itself.

[justaguy 68]

Just now, SilverTrumpet said:

Spoiler leak. Nothing official. You'll want to keep it a surprise for the movie itself.

Oh, okay. Thanks for the information and warning!

[Will 2,215]

7 minutes ago, zaddini said:

What clip exactly, sir?

 

Yeah, that's what I was wondering at first too. 

 

But then I realized it must not be one of the officially released ones.

 

I'm definitely planning to keep that a surprise for the OST and/or film. 

 

 

[peter.anschutz 43]

Amazon apparently not shipping my copy of the soundtrack until release day, putting its delivery date as mid-late next week.  Anyone know what retailers in the US will have it in stores Friday?  I'm tempted to just cancel the Amazon preorder and pick it up in stores if I can find it.

[Will 2,215]

Hoping that school will be canceled tomorrow due to the expected extreme cold... (no, it's not really that cold (0 degrees F with -25 wind chill) unless you're walking a long distance, but the public school system here has canceled for similar conditions in the past)

 

It's getting late for that, though...

 

Ordinarily, I'd hate a cancellation. It means everything gets crammed into a shorter time the next class, or, worse, we get tons of homework. Plus an extra school day tacked on at the end of the year.

 

However, tomorrow the Rogue One OST will drop... And I don't want to wait until after school to listen. 

 

 

 

[Jay 37,283]

58 minutes ago, peter.anschutz said:

Amazon apparently not shipping my copy of the soundtrack until release day, putting its delivery date as mid-late next week.  Anyone know what retailers in the US will have it in stores Friday?  I'm tempted to just cancel the Amazon preorder and pick it up in stores if I can find it.

 

Amazon always has it on your door on release date if you live in the US

[Lockdown 238]

What's the difference of me talking about it now versus tomorrow when you all analyze it? I didn't mention where to even get it, just a Forum...geez.

[SilverTrumpet 638]

26 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Amazon always has it on your door on release date if you live in the US

Not if you don't pay for Prime.

[tUfnTIEfighter 7]

Just saw the movie and decided it's time to reactivate my JWfan contributions after a few years, though i couldn't get into my old TIEfighter account ;-)

 

Now, concerning the movie: I'd give it a 5/10. It's not terrible, but definitely not great either. Weird CG characters, poor pacing (especially at the beginning and the end), less than convincing characters and nonsensical story developments are the main flaws.

 

As for the music: It's not bad, but it is NOWHERE close to even the worst Star Wars score our Johnny has done.

 

And don't get me wrong, I'm primarily a Star Wars fanboy and I'd love to rest easy knowing that our galaxy far, far away will rest in a competent composer's hand once John Williams won't be able to score those movies anymore, but Giacchino isn't the man for the job. I'm 100% sure about that now.

 

His score mostly works and never sticks out inappropriately, except for the emotional moments which sound slightly cheesy and forced (the moments themselves are cheesy to, so there's that). But it just isn't a John Williams score and lacks certain qualities (esp. Memorable themes), and when you know the Star Wars formula by heart, you realize when something's not quite the same.

 

Looking forward to more reviews :-) good to be back here

 

[Will 2,215]

This wait is so excruciating!!!

 

And it looks like school won't be canceled tomorrow so I'll have to sit through a whole day before listening! 

[Jay 37,283]

1 hour ago, SilverTrumpet said:

Not if you don't pay for Prime.

 

Oh, really?  That's too bad.  I didn't know that.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, tUfnTIEfighter said:

i couldn't get into my old TIEfighter account ;-)

 

Do you no longer have access to the email account its connected to?

[peter.anschutz 43]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

 

Amazon always has it on your door on release date if you live in the US

 

1 hour ago, SilverTrumpet said:

Not if you don't pay for Prime.

 

I have Prime but alas, I haven't received notification of its shipment; in fact, the estimated delivery date is the 22nd or 23rd!  I'm crossing my fingers hoping it'll go out tomorrow and just ship really fast...

 

EDIT: Just noticed in the fine print of their release date delivery policy that they don't offer that for PO Box addresses.  Can't remember what happened with the TFA release, but UPS by default drops our Amazon packages at the PO despite the shipping address being our street address. I've never been able to figure it out (they've only been doing it for a few years now).  Anyway, that may have something to do with it.  Ah well, I'll be content with the Jurassic Park release for the time being.