BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Will said: It may have been obvious to experienced listeners/theorists, but not to me! I still don't hear it, to be honest. I would hardly call it "obvious". Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: I still don't hear it, to be honest. I would hardly call it "obvious". Well, he starts with with quoting Imperial March but completes it with the Death Star motif. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I really thought it was obvious to people, especially folks on here. The choir are singing the imperial march. Listen to the 3 big identical notes they scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,379 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 8 hours ago, leeallen01 said: I really thought it was obvious to people, especially folks on here. The choir are singing the imperial march. Listen to the 3 big identical notes they scream. It's pretty much the ending of Empire's end titles. 9 hours ago, crocodile said: Well, he starts with with quoting Imperial March but completes it with the Death Star motif. Karol Ok, THAT I didn't notice. The notes are spaced a little differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeDocMatt 57 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Hey guys, long time lurker here. Anybody have an idea what's up with the end of Today of All Days on the FYC score? Did it get cut off at the end so as to remove a Williams reference? Has anyone found a good way to edit it to create a better listening experience? I trimmed off the final 15-20ish seconds and did a fade out on the held high strings. Simple, but not ideal in my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,312 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Seems to just be an error when uploading to the website that they never fixed; We don't know yet if the pressed CD version is the same or not. It's discussed in the thread for the FYC: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26916-michael-giacchinos-rogue-one-disney-fyc-site-contains-26-12-minutes-of-additional-music/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Is it me or does that music at the end sound like The Paths of the Dead from ROTK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeDocMatt 57 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, Jay said: Seems to just be an error when uploading to the website that they never fixed; We don't know yet if the pressed CD version is the same or not. It's discussed in the thread for the FYC: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26916-michael-giacchinos-rogue-one-disney-fyc-site-contains-26-12-minutes-of-additional-music/ Thanks for the info. I followed that thread and tried to do a search for it before posting and came up empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I've been listening to the soundtrack a lot in the past month, but I'm still having trouble distinguishing Krennic's theme from the new Imperial theme. Using time stamps from the soundtrack can anyone point out where exactly the Imperial theme appears? I'm not good at distinguishing stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, Demodex said: I've been listening to the soundtrack a lot in the past month, but I'm still having trouble distinguishing Krennic's theme from the new Imperial theme. Using time stamps from the soundtrack can anyone point out where exactly the Imperial theme appears? I'm not good at distinguishing stuff like this. If we're looking at "Imperial Suite", the new Imperial Theme is at 0:05.5-0:17, and Krennic's Theme is at 1:07-1:17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Thank you, guys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 My god they sound so damn similar. No wonder I couldn't figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Demodex said: My god they sound so damn similar. No wonder I couldn't figure it out. that's interesting that some people are finding these two themes blend together. in my case I was able to really clearly identify that it was two separate themes. maybe it's because of the similar orchestration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, DarthDementous said: that's interesting that some people are finding these two themes blend together. in my case I was able to really clearly identify that it was two separate themes. maybe it's because of the similar orchestration? It sounds like the same piece, with one theme being the melody, the other the bridge (like a traditional JW concert theme). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Once you get accouainted with the themes it is very clear which is which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Oh sure, I just don't think there's a clear delineation between the two themes (I quite like Krennic's though, immediately noticed it when I saw the opening scene). DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,133 Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 I've found a new theme. It represents Jyn and Galen. Like a father/daughter theme. Not sure if we're saying spoilers on this thread but SPOILERS! It appears as Jyn is watching the hologram of Galen here at 1:10 - 2:00 on piano, and then switches to strings from 2:00 - 3:00. Then it appears again, but more emotional, as Galen dies in Jyn's arms here at 5:58 - 6:55. And appears one final time as Cassian says "your father would be proud," here at 2:46 - 3:16. It also appears in the suite for Jyn at 1:55 - 2:28. Pieter Boelen, Whill, Will and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,379 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I did notice that. I called it the Hologram theme. But yes, it's the Erso family theme. It has a Lost kind of feel. Damn I love this score. DarthDementous and leeallen01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,312 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, leeallen01 said: I've found a new theme. It represents Jyn and Galen. Like a father/daughter theme. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I had noticed that. I thought it was already mentioned here... The more i hear Jyn & Hope suite the more i'm accepting it as a "minor John Williams theme". I think it is the 'concert version' from giacchino that mostly captures the Williams structure. The other two suites are too short and do not develop the themes as much. Would have benefited from 2-3 minutes more. Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Heh i just noticed that Clink Bajakian did a similarly structured Imperial theme for dark forces. He got the imperial march beats as base and then added a new melody to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 @leeallen01 I'm not quite hearing the connection between the romantic Jyn's theme lead in and the hologram music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Will said: @leeallen01 I'm not quite hearing the connection between the romantic Jyn's theme lead in and the hologram music. It sounds like the big romantic section is led in by the simple piano notes. I have tried to hum that lead-in over the piano notes and the piano works as counterpoint, so maybe the piano notes are the basic structure of the melody, or I'm just hearing things. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Is there already somewhere a list of all thematic statements in this score? I'd be quite curious to see that. Unless I am very much mistaken, there is also a "action theme/motif" that repeats several times. Can't remember which tracks and timestamps though. On 30-1-2017 at 2:53 PM, leeallen01 said: I've found a new theme. It represents Jyn and Galen. Like a father/daughter theme. Very cool! The bit at 02:21 in the "Jyn Erso and Hope Suite" definitely returns in at least three of those examples. But for some reason, I am having a hard time recognising that first example (the hologram) as being the same theme as the other ones. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Classic Giacchino stripped-down chord progression only, is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,133 Posted February 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2017 There's a repeating idea following the group throughout the film. 0:55 - 1:10 on subtle Percussion. 1:04 - 1:34 3:05 - end. DarthDementous, Will and Pieter Boelen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Yeah, I really like that motive, @leeallen01. I never realized it was repeated, though! leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 The new episode of my monthly podcast series, Musical Procrastination, is up now, where I analyse Rogue One. Next month will be the 2nd part. http://www.bombadradio.com/e/musical-procrastination-25-rogue-one-part-1/ Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,312 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 9 hours ago, leeallen01 said: There's a repeating idea following the group throughout the film. [snip] You're right! Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 12 hours ago, leeallen01 said: There's a repeating idea following the group throughout the film. 0:55 - 1:10 on subtle Percussion. 1:04 - 1:34 3:05 - end. I thought this motif was one of the more obvious ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 It is repeated more throughout the film than on the album (more unreleased cues include it and develop it). It is heard the most during the sequence on Jedha, which is why I thought it was a motif for Jedha/Saw Gerrera, but since it's included on Cargo Shuttle SW-0608... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 On 3-2-2017 at 0:37 PM, leeallen01 said: There's a repeating idea following the group throughout the film. That's the one I was thinking of the other day! Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I'm very fond of that suspense motif. suitably Star Wars and gets a fun building variation in 'Cargo Shuttle SW-038' which really adds to the suspense of the scene in a classic Star Wars way. On 2/4/2017 at 5:41 AM, leeallen01 said: The new episode of my monthly podcast series, Musical Procrastination, is up now, where I analyse Rogue One. Next month will be the 2nd part. http://www.bombadradio.com/e/musical-procrastination-25-rogue-one-part-1/ oh my goodness finally a podcast about the music of Rogue One! I thought I was going to explode from the anticipation of the next episode of SW Oxygen which may include Giacchino on the podcast himself! if you know of any other podcasts that have covered the music of Rogue One let me know, but for now I'm going to very much enjoy listening to yours. EDIT: and there's plenty of other episodes on pieces of music I love too! I honestly tried searching for stuff more like SW Oxygen but couldn't find anything, this is a wonderful discovery. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 4-2-2017 at 9:32 AM, BloodBoal said: It is repeated more throughout the film than on the album (more unreleased cues include it and develop it). It is heard the most during the sequence on Jedha, which is why I thought it was a motif for Jedha/Saw Gerrera, but since it's included on Cargo Shuttle SW-0608... I was pretty annoyed that the first appearance of that track wasnt on the CD or FYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,312 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 track? You mean theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 The question's come up as to why Giacchino changed the ending of the ANH end credits, and I've just realised he didn't: after the ANH End Credits finish, they tracked in the end of Jyn Erso & Hope Suite (from 5:08 of track 19). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 On 21/12/2016 at 3:33 PM, Jay said: It's just the opening of the ANH end credits, then the FYC track, then the end of the ANH end credits, followed by the final chord in the Guardians of the Whils suite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I'm fairly sure it was the Jyn Erso theme on harp with a sustained violin chord in a high G note (which at first struck me as odd because the original ending to that cue had a low G note on cellos) (I've seen the film three times, by the way - that's why I'm fairly sure it was the end of Jyn Erso & Hope that was used) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 A pretty great unreleased cue that I remembered from the film has been posted on YouTube: curlytoot and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 That was one of the things I was looking for when I first listened to the soundtrack (and couldn't find it, to my disappointment). It's actually probably the only unreleased cue that I personally am aware of specifically (though I know in general that there are others). This film needed more Rebel fanfare. Will and Tiburon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I wouldn't exactly say that's an 'unreleased cue' given it's just a recording from the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 What? It's music that's never been on an official release, hence it's an UNRELEASED CUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Just now, Demodex said: What? It's music that's never been on an official release, hence it's an UNRELEASED CUE. It's still a recording from a cinema viewing. Not exactly the best source for an unreleased cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The source is irrelevant. If it's in the movie and not available elsewhere it's unreleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 At its very literal meaning, sure. But I can't be the only one who thinks a little less literally in that term. To me, unreleased music is the audio without sound effects and not recorded through a camera at the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Oh. I get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Gistech said: I wouldn't exactly say that's an 'unreleased cue' given it's just a recording from the cinema. I agree (in fact I actually debated how to word it). I just used that as shorthand, with the understanding that, given the embed, it would be clear that what I meant was "theater recording of a film scene that includes an unreleased cue." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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