leeallen01 2,134 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Only Santa is better than Williams Not even he could never deliver that many presents in one night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Indeed Postcount padding? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, publicist said: Would he really use the wording 'Giacchino happened and we have to deal with that' or words to that effect if that would be the case? I believe that was a BloodyBowl forgery. However, the language of some "official" people may or may not be equally telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, leeallen01 said: Only Santa is better than Williams Not even he could never deliver that many presents in one night. Santa only comes once a year, but when he does, he fills your stocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,134 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, Richard said: Santa only comes once a year, but when he does, he fills your stocking! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, TheWhiteRider said: I believe that was a BloodyBowl forgery. However, the language of some "official" people may or may not be equally telling. They didn't move the release date. In light of JW's heavy workload on TFA it seems highly unlikely that Desplat didn't schedule for some overtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Even Giacchino doesn't believe Williams is as good as Angela Morley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Don't you mean Walter Scott? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,134 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 Don't you people know what's going on here?!!! Can't you see what Giacchino is doing?!!!! This was the final step in a master plan. Giacchino performed an Inception on Desplat, to plant the idea that he isn't good enough to do a Star Wars film. Giacchino has been strategically setting the chess board of fate in his favour his entire life! 1) Position himself as Composer for the Lost World video game, so he is directly compared to Williams. 2) Talk about Williams being his inspiration in interviews so he is directly compared to Williams. 3) Score Star Tours to show his willingness to score Star Wars related things. 4) Score Space adventure films, John Carter, Jupiter Ascending, and even Star Trek, which is directly compared to Star Wars. 5) Deny all desire to score a Star Wars film when asked. Say Star Wars is only for Williams, so even massive Williams and Star Wars fans respect him. 6) Wait for a new composer to be chosen to score a Star Wars film, and if not him, then perform inception on said composer. 7) Prepare for world domination. Bilbo, Smeltington and Arpy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Giacchino for President! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,134 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Trump IS Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I hope that MG gets pneumonia, and can't score R1, and then someone digs up Ken Thorne, and he adapts TPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Simon Franglen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,134 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I hope Giacchino writes a fantastic score that is universally acclaimed, and that even Williams compliments, so that some people on here cry at night hugging an artists' impression of their broken dreams. crumbs and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Williams compliments it either way. crumbs and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 So it would seem the French continue to show their penchant for surrender. And an American has to come in and clean up this mess! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 . Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Blumenkohl said: So it would seem the French continue to show their penchant for surrender. And an American has to come in and clean up this mess! Or the Americans don't plan their movies properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: Or the Americans don't plan their movies properly And the Dutch just get steamrolled in the middle no matter who is fucking up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Not even close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 33 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: I hope Giacchino writes a fantastic score that is universally acclaimed, and that even Williams compliments, so that some people on here cry at night hugging an artists' impression of their broken dreams. I reckon if the score is magnificent, everyone here will embrace it, because we care about the quality of music (in this case, what we expect that quality to be), not playing the favorites game. You're one of the few posters who seems to cling to such childish things. Bilbo and Quintus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Indeed! I for one would cherish a brilliant Giacchino score. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, dfenton85 said: In the game of score, you win or you die. Jay and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I cherish each of Steefs magnificent posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 56 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Indeed! I for one would cherish a brilliant Giacchino score. Lord knows I've given the guy plenty of chances. I've pretty much given up now though, because you know... experience... wisdom.. I recognise a false prophet by proxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Jay said: I think the point was that Desplat thought he'd be writing the score this summer and recording it in September, and he had some other obligation for Oct/Nov Dec. He's scheduled to be in Vienna in October to receive the Max Steiner award at this year's Hollywood in Vienna. Perhaps he just didn't want to miss out on personally receiving the award at an overblown gala. :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 25 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: He's scheduled to be in Vienna in October to receive the Max Steiner award at this year's Hollywood in Vienna. Perhaps he just didn't want to miss out on personally receiving the award at an overblown gala. :-p And a Concert in Spain in december... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ocelot 508 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 One of the worst news ever..... Once, Not Mr. Big, Sharkissimo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,272 Posted September 16, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 hours ago, dfenton85 said: I imagine Giacchino doing this when he was writing that second sentence. Damien F, crumbs, Gnome in Plaid and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Indeed! I for one would cherish a brilliant Giacchino score. You're insane. The guy can't write a theme to save his life, and his score to most big budget movies are just not musical in any way. He can't modulate right, he can't do chase scenes musically, he can't use woodwinds well.... UGH... throw up session!!! aviazn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Jay said: Even Giacchino doesn't think Giacchino is as good as Williams. Everyone who knows anything about music would say that Gia isn't as good as Williams, except for of course Williams, who would have too much class to say such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 10 hours ago, Nick66 said: "Giacchino happened." LOL. I sense the birth of a meme. Couple of spry photographers were able to snap a few pics of the back bumper of Desplat's car today before he embarked on some errands around France. Nick1Ø66, Jay, Muad'Dib and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Once and Muad'Dib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, ocelot said: You're insane. The guy can't write a theme to save his life, and his score to most big budget movies are just not musical in any way. He can't modulate right, he can't do chase scenes musically, he can't use woodwinds well.... UGH... throw up session!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 20 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: I've been lied to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 7 hours ago, toothless said: Well, given that gia will try to emulate williams style and heavily re use his themes, be prepared for a load of comments such as: - "Wow john williams really knocked it out of the park this time" - "Well better than TFA" 5 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Don't you people know what's going on here?!!! Can't you see what Giacchino is doing?!!!! This was the final step in a master plan. Giacchino performed an Inception on Desplat, to plant the idea that he isn't good enough to do a Star Wars film. Giacchino has been strategically setting the chess board of fate in his favour his entire life! 1) Position himself as Composer for the Lost World video game, so he is directly compared to Williams. 2) Talk about Williams being his inspiration in interviews so he is directly compared to Williams. 3) Score Star Tours to show his willingness to score Star Wars related things. 4) Score Space adventure films, John Carter, Jupiter Ascending, and even Star Trek, which is directly compared to Star Wars. 5) Deny all desire to score a Star Wars film when asked. Say Star Wars is only for Williams, so even massive Williams and Star Wars fans respect him. 6) Wait for a new composer to be chosen to score a Star Wars film, and if not him, then perform inception on said composer. 7) Prepare for world domination. Giacchino is Snoke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, RPurton said: Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 6 hours ago, ocelot said: You're insane. The guy can't write a theme to save his life, and his score to most big budget movies are just not musical in any way. He can't modulate right, he can't do chase scenes musically, he can't use woodwinds well.... UGH... throw up session!!! Tell us how you really feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 On 9/16/2016 at 11:20 AM, Gnome in Plaid said: Giacchino hasn't shown a lot of inventiveness, but if there's anyone who can do "John Williams pastiche," it's him (or John Debney, or Joel McNeely, both of whom I would've preferred to Desplat or Giacchino). I don't know about that—Gordy Haab and Kyle Newmaster get much closer to Williams' vocabulary than Giacchino does—but I also would have picked Debney or McNeely over Giacchino. The thought of a climactic escape scene being scored with another of Gia's schmaltzy four-chord string cues, with a single piano note echoing as rebel X-wings go down in flames, etc. makes me shudder. Please, not in Star Wars! I haven't heard much of Williams in anything Giacchino's written since the original Medal of Honor scores. Jurassic World was serviceable but not magical. If this is supposed to be a gritty war movie, I'd rather hear Giacchino return to his sound for the original Call of Duty and Medal of Honor: Airborne than try to match Williams' tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, aviazn said: I don't know about that—Gordy Haab and Kyle Newmaster get much closer to Williams' vocabulary than Giacchino does—but I also would have picked Debney or McNeely over Giacchino. Why? They produce mechanical facsimiles and last time i checked people wanted to hear more 'Rey's Theme's and polished programmatic cues and not just piles of loud orchestral music without all that. I kind of like 'Lair' but it's not something i consider more than a fun exercise in jolly pillaging that seriously lacks an emotional arc that a good dramatic composer should provide. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 17 minutes ago, publicist said: Why? They produce mechanical facsimiles and last time i checked people wanted to hear more 'Rey's Theme's and polished programmatic cues and not just piles of loud orchestral music without all that. Why do I think Haab and Newmaster do more accurate JW pastiche, or why would I have picked Debney/McNeeley over Giacchino? I'm sure not holding my breath for Giacchino to produce the next Rey's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Either way. Neither of these gentlemen really has the dramatic chops to come up with a genre-defining cue - it all sounds like crafty impersonations without much personality. Even McNeely's more self-confident works like 'Iron Will' or 'Squanto' suffer from this problem - they never rise above that unlike Horner or JNH. So my question is why do people always settle for that? Do we need more near-approximations of 'Battle over Coruscant' etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 How much music had Desplat written, and will we ever get to hear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Averaging 2 minutes a day and working for maybe 3-4 weeks you do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, Richard said: How much music had Desplat written, and will we ever get to hear it? How could you hear something that was never recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 21 minutes ago, publicist said: So my question is why do people always settle for that? Do we need more near-approximations of 'Battle over Coruscant' etc.? I consider myself resigned, not settled, haha. They're the only choices Disney is giving us! I mean, if I could hire anyone for Rogue One, I'd take Elliot Goldenthal. Barring that, I'm hoping Giacchino will bust out something loud and dissonant like his experiments in Call of Duty—a modern, gutty war movie score, and something tonally entirely different from JW's world. But given the reshoots and the reports that Disney are pushing the movie back towards a safe, classical Star Wars pallette, I'd be surprised if that were the case. And if we're stuck with JW pastiche, I'd rather take a Debney or McNeeley over Giacchino doing Williams a la Jurassic World again. But I will be very happy to be surprised. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Ultimately none of this matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 If I had to choose someone to replace desplat, I'd say : - JNH because he's one of the few who still makes great themes even in blockbuster movies - Joe Kramer because of his score for Rogue Nation - I would be curious to here Mychael Danna as I love Life of Pi and The good dinosaur - John powell because he's one of my favorite composer Annnd if the film had this really sad tone, It would be interesting to here Dario Marianelli in V for vendetta mode. Even if I'm not sure about the actions pieces. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 2 hours ago, publicist said: Why? They produce mechanical facsimiles and last time i checked people wanted to hear more 'Rey's Theme's and polished programmatic cues and not just piles of loud orchestral music without all that. Actually, after playing some of Battlefront I've grown quite fond of Haab's original action/melodic material he incorporated into the wider Williams soundtrack. It's more seamless than it really ought to be. A pastiche, certainly, but there's thoughtfulness of its own in there. I'm not necessarily saying Gordy is ready for a Star Wars movie of his own, mind. But his contributions to the universe deserve to be defended. aviazn and justaguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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