Popular Post Thor 9,201 Posted September 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2016 Watch out, John Williams, there's a tiny Tie Fighter out to get you! Bofur01, Cerebral Cortex, igger6 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricard 2,282 Posted September 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2016 And here it is! Omen II, Will and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,576 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Not bad. He looks good and that's the main thing. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 114 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 25 minutes ago, Ricard said: And here it is! Why would this be blocked in my country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,759 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Americans must be sick to the back teeth of that piece right? It's played everywhere, before every single sporting event of even just minor relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,178 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The arrangement is something I'd like to hear in concert form, or at least performed/recorded in a studio; in the open setting those lovely dissonant? parts sound odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,759 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Do Aussies have their Anthem performed that often? Do you even have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looohhk 28 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Sweeeeeeeeeet, this is one of my favorites! Been waiting for it to be performed again, this was debuted at the 2007 World Series in Boston (can't remember the exact game) if I'm hearing it right. Looks like the MLB flagged it for U.S. people, was anyone able to snag it before it was removed? Selfish request: If so, could you PM it to me please? If not, totally cool, MLB will likely post it to their YouTube Channel at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,759 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The link works in The Netherlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,282 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 12 minutes ago, Chewie33 said: MLB will likely post it to their YouTube Channel at some point. They already did Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,365 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I like that the lyrics were muted. Also, random seeing Kevin Costner! Has Williams ever composed music for a Costner film? To think how close we came with Indy 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 7,160 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 JFK, and Amazing Stories ("The Mission") if you count that. 1 hour ago, Ricard said: They already did That one's not available here either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 41,649 Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 36 minutes ago, crumbs said: Also, random seeing Kevin Costner! Has Williams ever composed music for a Costner film? To think how close we came with Indy 3! How could you forget JFK? And what does Costner have to do with Indy 3? I don't know this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan_902 143 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Do Aussies have their Anthem performed that often? Do you even have one? We do indeed, and it features proudly and prominently in most major (and not even) sporting events. Don't know what the others are on about. Perhaps just sarcasm. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,365 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 52 minutes ago, Jay said: How could you forget JFK? And what does Costner have to do with Indy 3? I don't know this story. How embarrassing, completely forgot Costner was in JFK! I assume Harrison Ford remains the actor Williams has scored the most films for? 4 Indiana Jones films (soon to be 5), 4 Star Wars films, Presumed Innocent, Sabrina and E.T. (kind of...) And the long-running rumour was that several purported ideas for Indy 4 involved a brother, who would be played by Kevin Costner. Probably just tabloid rubbish, but we know that film spent nearly two decades in development hell with Lucas' stupid ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan_902 143 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 JW is somewhat more gaunt than just a few years ago. I suspect his pacemaker surgery would have exacerbated any natural geriatric shrinking. And he certainly can't seem to let go of those turtle-necks. Maybe he's trying to hide his neck? Looks like the bow-tie is now reserved exclusively for receiving lifetime-achievement awards; certainly didn't see one at Hollywood Bowl. But bottom line, whatever shape or form (no-less, the particularly well-seeming on seen here) he's in, it's fantastic that he's still engaging actively in such events. I might even get to see him live again one day. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,365 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Everyone gets a bit self-conscious of their appearance as age takes control. John's always liked his turtlenecks though! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelly 273 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, crumbs said: And the long-running rumour was that several purported ideas for Indy 4 involved a brother, who would be played by Kevin Costner. There was actually an Indy comic where a fat con-man tried to pass himself as Indiana's brother, New Jersey Jones. I'm not making that up, that's actually what he called himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,365 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Skelly said: There was actually an Indy comic where a fat con-man tried to pass himself as Indiana's brother, New Jersey Jones. I'm not making that up, that's actually what he called himself! Screenplay by George Lucas Story by George Lucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 2 hours ago, zoltan_902 said: JW is somewhat more gaunt than just a few years ago. I suspect his pacemaker surgery would have exacerbated any natural geriatric shrinking. Yes, you notice it when he's in the white concert suit. When he's in a turtleneck he looks super youthful but when he's in the suit he usually doesn't look quite as good, to be honest. While actually I didn't really notice it last night but at Tanglewood and the Hollywood Bowl I did. 4 hours ago, mrbellamy said: JFK, and Amazing Stories ("The Mission") if you count that. That one's not available here either! That same video is available at this link! http://m.mlb.com/lad/video/topic/8911656/v1184074583/collad-williams-conducts-national-anthem-in-la 5 hours ago, Chewie33 said: Sweeeeeeeeeet, this is one of my favorites! Been waiting for it to be performed again, this was debuted at the 2007 World Series in Boston (can't remember the exact game) if I'm hearing it right. Looks like the MLB flagged it for U.S. people, was anyone able to snag it before it was removed? Selfish request: If so, could you PM it to me please? If not, totally cool, MLB will likely post it to their YouTube Channel at some point. Here's a US link: http://m.mlb.com/lad/video/topic/8911656/v1184074583/collad-williams-conducts-national-anthem-in-la And also, yes, I thought last night that it was a new arrangement (incorporating some elements from the Boston one) but now I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same (but in way better quality!) Here's the Boston one: I love that little joyous fanfare at the very end! The dissonance is cool too. 14 hours ago, Will said: Anyone know what the "epic" music was that was playing throughout most of the ceremony (and the red -- blue -- carpet at the end)? Sounded a little too "epic," if you know what I mean, to be JW. Bumping this. You can hear it in the last few seconds of this video: http://m.dodgers.mlb.com/lad/video/topic/6479266/v1184499383/collad-dodgers-honor-vin-scully-in-pregame-ceremony I'm assuming it's some piece of film music. @Jay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 11,248 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Is this the same arrangement that he conducted on 7/4/2014, at DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 34 minutes ago, Richard said: Is this the same arrangement that he conducted on 7/4/2014, at DC? No. That arrangement was for full orchestra and I much prefer it (not to say that the Boston World Series/LA Scully one is bad; it's just that the DC one is so good!). It has a little more "expansion" versus just re-arranging the original (for example, there's a marvelous JW opening fanfare). And the reprise of the "and the rockets' red glare" section is Williams going all out "epic." Also... Cerebral Cortex and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,805 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I can't view any of the videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, king mark said: I can't view any of the videos So you've tried all these links? http://m.mlb.com/lad/video/topic/8911656/v1184074583/collad-williams-conducts-national-anthem-in-la What about this fan video I just found: It's actually in surprisingly good quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,805 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 the last one works,thanks I don't like it as much as some of his previous arrangements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 By the way, I found a bunch more JW photos here: http://dodgersphotog.mlblogs.com/2016/09/24/92316-something-vin-vin-scully-thanksgiving-by-jon-soohoo-jill-weisleder-armando-arorizo-and-patrick-gee/ (you can find higher resolution versions there if you want) The one where you can see the whole orchestra (well, whole "part of the orchestra that this was scored for") and the one with the thumps up are my favorite. I liked seeing JW, Scully, and everyone else walking down the blue carpet last night to stirring music. The thumps up was great; I was hoping someone had taken a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 41,649 Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 4 hours ago, crumbs said: How embarrassing, completely forgot Costner was in JFK! I assume Harrison Ford remains the actor Williams has scored the most films for? 4 Indiana Jones films (soon to be 5), 4 Star Wars films, Presumed Innocent, Sabrina and E.T. (kind of...) Yes. 4 hours ago, crumbs said: And the long-running rumour was that several purported ideas for Indy 4 involved a brother, who would be played by Kevin Costner. Probably just tabloid rubbish, but we know that film spent nearly two decades in development hell with Lucas' stupid ideas. Ah, so it was Indy 4, not Indy 3. That makes a lot more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,759 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I was wondering. I couldn't think of a single part from TLC that Costner could have played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I'm starting a short unit about the various instruments at school right now and for some reason I had an urge to write down what instruments are in last night's arrangement. I'll be doing this based on sight since my ear is not well trained. I am not assuming that I'm providing any particularly useful information; I'm sure many others here could do it (many based largely on the sound alone!). 19 players total: Brass 7 trumpets 4 French horns 3 trombones 1 tuba Percussion 2 snare drums 1 gran cassa (bass drum) 1 (pair of) cymbals Sound right? Interestingly, the Boston World Series performance that I thought was the same arrangement must not have been, since it was scored for 32 players, much larger than the group that played in LA. So I guess the Scully one was a brand new arrangement, if heavily based on the World Series one and superficially exactly the same. 3 hours ago, king mark said: the last one works,thanks I don't like it as much as some of his previous arrangements Which are the "better arrangements" you're referring to? The 4th of July one I posted above? The following 2004 Rose Bowl one? Something else? My favorite I've heard is the 2014 DC 4th of July one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC4L 89 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Parts of that sounded flat to my ears but overall the arrangement was a bit flourished without being gawdy as MANY US Anthem performers do ot try and make their performance some special event rather than just paying respect to the nation they are performing (or rushing through the one they have to perform because they just don't care). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,805 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 this arrangement I like the best: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 56 minutes ago, king mark said: this arrangement I like the best: That one was written for and conducted by Williams at the 2004 Rose Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,759 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 We know. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: We know. LOL Well, I figured it was possible someone didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 41,649 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, Will said: Well, I figured it was possible someone didn't. This. Thank you Will. Don't listen to Stefan. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Williams thumbs up from last night is now my pro pic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,759 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Thats a great pic Just now, Will said: Williams thumbs up from last night is now my pro pic! Please, it's called an avatar! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 9/25/2016 at 1:04 AM, Will said: And also, yes, I thought last night that it was a new arrangement (incorporating some elements from the Boston one) but now I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same (but in way better quality!) Here's the Boston one: Seems to me those dissonances in the new Dodgers version are less pronounced than in the Fenway version. They also actually resolve clearly (that B natural to C), while the Fenway version lets them hang. It's a little tweak, but I remember there were a few articles in the mainstream press back in 2007 that said those chords "sounded weird" or whatever, and IIRC even questioned whether Williams was being politically subversive. I doubt JW would ever temper his views to avoid being seen as unpatriotic, but I do wonder if he tweaked it to just be a little more…pleasing…to the ears of the…masses. Tempo's also slower at Dodgers Stadium, but that's par for the course for JW these days. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,292 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 minute ago, aviazn said: Seems to me those dissonances in the new Dodgers version are less pronounced than in the Fenway version. They also actually resolve clearly (that B natural to C), while the Fenway version lets them hang. It's a little tweak, but I remember there were a few articles in the mainstream press back in 2007 that said those chords "sounded weird" or whatever, and IIRC even questioned whether Williams being politically subversive. I doubt JW would ever temper his views to avoid being seen as unpatriotic, but I do wonder if he tweaked it to just be a little more…pleasing…to the ears of the…masses. Huh. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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