Popular Post Kühni 485 Posted October 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2016 Yo - Found another report saved on an old external HD. It's a report on the FotR rec sessions (fall of 2001) by LPO cellist Catherine Wilmers. Enjoy! Recording The Fellowship of the Ring Cellist, Catherine Wilmers, gives her account of the LPO sessions in September 2001 that brought to life Howard Shore’s score for this new film. 3 September 2001 A huge orchestra assembles in the gigantic Watford Colosseum (formerly known as the Town Hall). There is an expectant and excited atmosphere as Canadian-born composer, Howard Shore, arrives on the podium. He starts off by describing the film and his involvement with it. Present a year ago during the filming in New Zealand, Shore is steeped in Tolkien. Director, Peter Jackson, a bare-footed New Zealander, is also on hand to meet us. Howard explains about the languages used in the film: elvish (two versions) and dwarfish; and how the Tolkien songs and poems are included. Roisin, the Tolkien language expert, has helped to coach the choir, especially in 'black speech', and organised phonetic translations to help the singers. Meanwhile the red light flashes in the hall, perhaps a gentle reminder that it is now 2.30 pm and that we should consider playing some music. Howard asks how many of us have read the book. Many hands go up and a few days later new copies are seen lying around on the floor to be devoured by musicians during the breaks. This is Howard's first visit to Watford. The sound is immediate, vibrant and very warm. Perhaps my impressions are coloured by sitting in front of the marvellous horn section which has to play some very dramatic music. Every player has a pile of folders, beautifully organised with the music of each section in a different colour. The music is very clear, printed in large notes direct from a computer. Gone are the days of trying to unscramble incomprehensible manuscripts! Howard has a screen in front of him and as soon as we rehearse a section he is able to judge whether the music sounds correct and whether it fits exactly. Often we are asked to make a 4-beat bar into a 3-beat bar and later a 4-beat bar into a 5-beat bar to compensate. Impressively he is also able to make immediate decisions about whether the instruments sound right or whether we have to make adjustments such as cutting out a few cello or violin bars. We get ready. The number of the 'take' is announced, and we are off. We soon discover it is vital to take notice of the metronome marks on the parts as there are often sudden mood swings with associated tempo changes. When the 'black riders' appear, the music is suddenly faster, rhythmic and frightening. Susanna Riddell (my cello desk mate) and I soon discover that we can go up to the control room in the breaks to watch the film and listen to the music. Coffee breaks are forgotten as we get immersed in the film. Computer imaging technology has been used to 'shrink' the six-foot actors playing hobbits and dwarfs. 7 September 2001 This is day four and we work from 9 am to 4 pm as Watford is being used for a disco in the evening! The music stands, instruments, microphones and wires all have to be removed for the evening and then put out again the next afternoon at 2 pm. 8 September 2001 We manage to start on time. In the control room there is an amazing array of switches. We go up there to listen to the playback and hear a noble cello passage to accompany Gandalf. It is nice to be chosen to represent the good! Then we move on to deeply scary music. 10 September 2001 We are at Watford from 11 am to 6 pm, before dashing to check in at Stansted Airport one and a half hours later. It does not help that another car smashes into me on the journey and I have to report it to Hertford Police Station. We are off to Bucharest for two nights with concerts as part of the Enescu Festival. We arrive at 3 am. To save time we are met off the aeroplane and able to avoid going into the terminal building. We give in our passports as we get off the plane, lug the instruments straight onto buses and set off for the hotel with flashing lights and a police escort. Sitting in the front of the bus and driving through red traffic lights is quite exciting. 11 September 2001 After the rehearsal, we receive the devastating news about the terrorist strike in New York. We somehow get through Bruckner’s Symphony 3 that night and Dvorák’s Symphony 8 the next. Then the police turn out again to help us to the airport and we return to England at 4 am on the 13th. 13 September 2001 At 2 pm we are back at Watford and still devastated about the news. Howard lived for ten years in a neighbourhood ten blocks from the World Trade Center and sent his daughter to school nearby. 14 September 2001 We stand in silence for several minutes at 11 am and later the whole orchestra signs a card to show its solidarity. We are all rather subdued but Howard, although obviously deeply upset, manages a quiet and wry smile now and then. 17 September 2001 We are on the river Anduin, sailing along with a lovely cello phrase. A choir of about 60 joins us on several occasions. Sometimes they are booked to record in the evening from 9 pm to midnight after we have gone home.We spend a long time on each section and often re-record the same section a week later, perhaps when Howard has new inspiration about an extra percussion effect such as the sound of chains! Rachel Gledhill wears thick gardening gloves and hits the strings of the piano in a rhythmic pattern, sometimes jangling the chains on the floor at the same time. Next there is a detailed discussion about the 'bodhrans' (Irish drums) and how many players are available to play and at what pitch. Can the sound be darker? Perhaps one player should play the side drum to make the sound more forceful and military but still 'from a long time ago'? There are long discussions about which tycho drums to use. Howard has a very clear idea in his head of the sound that he wants to achieve. 20 September 2001 We have transferred to Air Studios, Hampstead. In an attempt to get the correct drum sound it is suggested that the drum could be heated with the hand drier in the 'Ladies' to tighten the skin. The violas have no metronome clicks in their headphones at one take, but they still manage to play in time. Howard asks: ‘How did you manage it?' 'We watched you', came the reply. 'Novel!' said Howard, obviously rather chuffed. It takes a bit of time to match the Watford sound. We are working from 3 pm to 10 pm instead of from 2 pm to 9 pm and Howard finally admits to a moment of tiredness and then realises we are working an hour later. 26 September 2001 We have moved to Abbey Road Studio. Howard tells us there is music all the way through the film, except for four minutes. As we are working, the music is being sent down the internet and mixed with the film track. When we go to listen to the playback of the Prologue we joke that we would like to stay there for three hours and see all the film. The Orchestra’s enthusiasm and level of commitment to the film is evident. 30 September 2001 Howard tells us we have recorded 8-10 minutes a day. We spend the day doing 'pick-ups’, matching the sound from one recording to another. After two hours we have only recorded 31 bars. On this day there is an Irish band. Another day there were some Indian instruments (sarangi and ney flute) and a monochord, a wooden instrument with a rectangular flat top and 50 strings underneath, which took ages to tune. It is used by healers as therapy. One lies on it while it vibrates. Apparently everybody has their own particular chord which helps them to relax. Howard assures us that 'conductors live a long time because of all the vibrations they get from the orchestra'. Howard never lost his 'cool' with us. There was a feeling of deep trust all the way through. Sometimes he would suddenly burst into smiles and share a friendly comment on the film or ask what the orchestra had been doing. When starting work again he said 'and now back to Middle Earth...' Jay, Bofur01, KK and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Very cool, thanks for posting this! I admit a big smile crossed my face when I saw that Shore asked the musicians to read the book....and they did. Just another example of how much passion the people who worked on these films poured into it, and how much respect for the source material they brought to what they did. I love to think that the performance of an individual musician was somehow inspired by what he or she read in Tolkien, and that it can somehow be heard or at least sensed in the finished piece. Who would have thought that we'd ever see another work of equal stature to what JW did with Star Wars in our lifetime. Just nailed it, and I associate Shore's score with Middle Earth as closely as I do anything else. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Thanks for sharing. Love this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 The opinions of musicians are completely irrelevant though. They are there to perform the music thats on the pages in front of them. Its like asking the opinion of the Stig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Tycho drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 11 hours ago, SafeUnderHill said: Irrelevant to what? Everything. They are employed to perform the music, not have an opinion on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 19 hours ago, Kühni said: Next there is a detailed discussion about the 'bodhrans' (Irish drums) and how many players are available to play and at what pitch. Can the sound be darker? Perhaps one player should play the side drum to make the sound more forceful and military but still 'from a long time ago'? There are long discussions about which tycho drums to use. Howard has a very clear idea in his head of the sound that he wants to achieve. 20 September 2001 We have transferred to Air Studios, Hampstead. In an attempt to get the correct drum sound it is suggested that the drum could be heated with the hand drier in the 'Ladies' to tighten the skin. It's stories like this that remind us why Middle-Earth sounds best with Shore on the stand. It's this kind of penchant for detail that explains the distinct difference in sound between the Hobbit scores. Nick1Ø66 and Bofur01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Yes. That almost OCD like attention to detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 . Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, SafeUnderHill said: It's also worth considering the fact this was Shore's first foray into Middle Earth, he wanted full control over the sound. After four scores, he knew how it should sound and trained Pope/Sizemore to continue it. Is that really what you believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,280 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Cool report Khuni, thanks for sharing it again. It's great how specific he got about the sounds he wanted, going so far as to use a hair dryer richest up a drum skin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 And do you believe everything you have been told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 9 hours ago, Kühni said: (Yo KK - You and that fabulous country of yours still doing well? ) Aye friend, we're still in good shape! When you flying back? Have the Germans kicked you out yet? 5 hours ago, SafeUnderHill said: It's also worth considering the fact this was Shore's first foray into Middle Earth, he wanted full control over the sound. After four scores, he knew how it should sound and trained Pope/Sizemore to continue it. Somehow I doubt Shore gave Pope/Sizemore intense training on how to fine-tune a bodhran. It also probably explains why the percussion in BotFA sounds like shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Shore probably had a miserable time working on AUJ and seeing so much of his score being reworked, shifted around, replaced etc that he didn't wanna spend another two years working like that and they found a way that would sorta work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I don't think that's too far from the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, KK said: I don't think that's too far from the truth! It's what makes the most sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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