Michael Giacchino's JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM (2018)

[Jay 37,285]

2 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said:

How's the sound quality/recording?

 

Fantastic!

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Sweeeeet!

I wonder if it was an accident!

 

Giacchino (horrified): W-What do you mean it doesn't sound dry!? T-This cannot be! We have to go back and re-record the whole thing!

[Jay 37,285]

He hasn't had that sound since he stopped working with Wallin has he?

[Nick Parker 3,040]

Giacchino: Ditch the masters, let's start over! Prepare the Deverb vacuum suctions! These session players have been playin' my music for years, maybe a little oxygen deprivation will actually give 'em some pleasure playin' this crap!

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

He hasn't had that sound since he stopped working with Wallin has he?

Jurassic World sounded dry, as did Spider-Man: Homecoming apparently.

[Knight of Ren 785]

After the my first listen, I must say that I like it a lot more than Jurassic World. The action music feels more organic, the themes from the first one are re-introduced in some great ways (especially Owen's Raptors theme with some choir), and altough it's a shame that InGen's theme does not return, there's a lot of new material that compensates it. I don't exactly know what each theme represents, but what I suppose it's the Fallen Kingdom (as Jay said), is really great and has a lot of fantastic statements.

 

I need to watch the movie and see how it works in context, and also try to figure out what the themes represent, but on album works great. Maybe around the middle it drags a little with some more filler cues, but the first and last third are fantastic. 

 

And now to listen to The Incredibles 2...

[Jay 37,285]

Yea I'd like to know what the other themes represent too

 

And yea, there's a ton of filler tracks in the saggy middle. But then the last third of the album is killer.

 

I like it more than the first score, but the first score had more fun themes. 

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

I found the family theme from JW kind of grating, so I'm admittedly pretty relieved it's gone here. Anyhow:

 

[Jay 37,285]

It's been reported the Family Theme was used once in the film (for a scene with Owen and Claire, despite it being a theme for the brothers exclusively in the first film), but I too am glad it is not on the OST album.  I do miss the Hoskins/InGen theme though, however I'm guessing the film doesn't concern them it wouldn't have had a place.  I'm glad he found a use for the raptor squad theme though.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

It was my least favorite theme in JW.

I don't really have a least favorite theme here. It's all fine, dandy stuff!

[MedigoScan 324]

the raptor squad theme even had more appearances in the movie

 

movie-wise, tracks 13 to 17 sorta represent the middle act, though I myself still did like PillowTalk and ShockandAuction

 

 

 

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

So the score/album ends the same way it began, eh? Love that. 

[MedigoScan 324]

the twinkly theme is probably indeed intended to be a B theme to the Fallen Kingdom main theme

and that Ominous theme is just something reused for the suite, just like that 'bridging material' was taken from track 1 (The Jurassic world 1 suite also had non-thematic music) 

The quiet theme could be Maisie's theme and the March theme is definitely Wheatley stuff

[Jay 37,285]

7 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said:

So the score/album ends the same way it began, eh? Love that. 

 

Yea I noticed that too

 

 

 

Would you guys say The Neo-Jurassic Age from 0:10-0:25 is another play on the concert arrangement opening of the Jurassic Park theme?

 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, MedigoScan said:

the twinkly theme is probably indeed intended to be a B theme to the Fallen Kingdom main theme

 

I definitely think so especially after listening to The Neo Jurassic Age just now

 

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and that Ominous theme is just something reused for the suite, just like that 'bridging material' was taken from track 1 (The Jurassic world 1 suite also had non-thematic music) 

 

Makes sense

 

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The quiet theme could be Maisie's theme and the March theme is definitely Wheatley stuff

 

I had read earlier there was a theme for Maisie, and was surprised I didn't notice one in tracks with her name in the title.  I haven't seen the film, I don't even know who she is

 

Since I haven't seen the film, what is "Wheatley stuff"?

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

I'm sure there's some good stuff not on the album and all, but I think this might be the most satisfying Jurassic OST ever. Which is to say, it's the first one where I'm not frustratingly either seeking out an expansion/recording sessions or feeling any need to rearrange the order.

[MedigoScan 324]

Maisie is the little girl that you probably recognize from the trailer in the bedroom scene

 

Wheatley is the hunter that helps round up dinosaurs on the island

 

and yeah I am not missing much this time, though I still wouldnt mind getting the full opening and also more Indoraptor-killing-people-material

(though the latter sounded a lot like the Gyrosphere track)

 

edit: actually now that I think about it, the Quiet theme is probably be meant for Blue and Owen

since Operation Blue Blood uses it for a scene where you see footage of Owen and the infant raptors

 

Though then it doesnt make much sense for it to be in tracks 2 or 12

 

 

 

[Jay 37,285]

Here's what I got for a theme list

 

 

Returning from John Williams' Jurassic Park

 

Main Theme
02 The Theropod Preservation Society 1:58-2:18 (Intro only)
05 Nostalgia-Saurus 0:44-end (B Section)
12 Volcano to Death 0:22-0:58 (Incomplete) / 1:20-1:30 (Incomplete)
24 To Free or Not to Free 1:34-1:55 (Intro only)
26 At Jurassic World's End Credits \ Suite 1:53-2:04 (3 notes only)

 

Adventure Theme
26 At Jurassic World's End Credits \ Suite 0:00-1:02

 

Returning from the first Jurassic World score

 

Main Theme
02 The Theropod Preservation Society 1:11-1:45 (Intro only)
04 March of the Wheatley Cavalcade 1:18-end
09 Go With the Pyroclastic Flow 2:47-2:59
24 To Free or Not to Free 2:38-end
25 The Neo-Jurassic Age 0:30-1:12
26 At Jurassic World's End Credits \ Suite 1:12-1:53

 

Indominous Rex A
01 This Title Makes Me Jurassic 2:00-2:08
23 Declaration of Indo-Pendence 1:00-1:07

 

Owen's Raptor Squad
19 You Can Be So Hard-Headed 0:31-0:36
20 Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Free 0:00-0:05 / 2:35-2:49
23 Declaration of Indo-Pendence 0:39-0:58 / 3:35-end

 

 

New Themes

 

Fallen Kingdom Theme
01 This Title Makes Me Jurassic 2:27-end
05 Nostalgia-Saurus 0:12-0:44
16 Wilting Iris 0:15-0:51
18 Thus Begins the Indo-Rapture 0:52-1:44
19 You Can Be So Hard-Headed 1:53-1:56 (First 4 notes only)
20 Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Free 0:38-0:54 (Warped) / 1:09-1:26 (Partial)
22 World's Worst Bedtime Storyteller 0:22-0:54 / 0:54-1:15 (B Section) / 1:47-1:57
23 Declaration of Indo-Pendence 2:58-3:11
25 The Neo-Jurassic Age 1:25-1:51 / 1:51-2:10 (B Section) / 2:10-2:37 / 2:37-2:55 (B Section) / 2:55-end 
26 At Jurassic World's End Credits \ Suite 2:04-3:20 / 3:20-3:40 (B Section) / 3:40-4:11 / 4:11-4:31 (B Section) / 4:31-5:18 / 8:08-8:28 (B Section) / 8:28-9:00 / 9:00-9:20 (B Section) / 9:20-9:57 / 10:35-end

 

Quiet Theme
02 The Theropod Preservation Society 0:36-1:07
12 Volcano to Death 0:15-1:00
13 Operation Blue Blood 0:46-end
24 To Free or Not to Free 1:55-2:30
26 At Jurassic World's End Credits \ Suite 5:18-6:40

 

March Theme
04 March of the Wheatley Cavalcade 0:15-0:35 
11 Raiders of the Lost Isla Nublar 0:00-0:38
26 At Jurassic World's End Credits \ Suite 6:40-7:45

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Track-by-track

 

01 This Title Makes Me Jurassic (2:54)
2:00-2:08 Indominous Rex A
2:27-end Fallen Kingdom Theme

 

02 The Theropod Preservation Society (3:47)
0:36-1:07 Quiet Theme
1:11-1:45 Jurassic World Main Theme (Intro only)
1:58-2:18 Jurassic Park Main Theme (Intro only)

 

03 Maisie and the Island (2:07)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

04 March of the Wheatley Cavalcade (2:14)
0:15-0:35 March Theme
1:18-end Jurassic World Main Theme 

 

05 Nostalgia-Saurus (1:05)
0:12-0:44 Fallen Kingdom Theme
0:44-end Jurassic Park Main Theme (B Section)

 

06 Double Cross to Bear (2:32)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

07 Lava Land (3:17)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

08 Keep Calm and Baryonyx (2:46)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

09 Go With the Pyroclastic Flow (3:43)
2:47-2:59 Jurassic World Main Theme

 

10 Gyro Can You Go? (2:17)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

11 Raiders of the Lost Isla Nublar (3:20)
0:00-0:38 March Theme

 

12 Volcano to Death (1:38)
0:15-1:00 Quiet Theme

0:22-0:58 Jurassic Park Main Theme (Incomplete)
1:20-1:30 Jurassic Park Main Theme (Incomplete)

 

13 Operation Blue Blood (3:43)
0:46-end Quiet Theme

 

14 Jurassic Pillow Talk (2:47)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

15 How to Pick a Lockwood (3:10)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

16 Wilting Iris (1:11)
0:15-0:51 Fallen Kingdom Theme (Altered)

 

17 Shock and Auction (2:28)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

18 Thus Begins the Indo-Rapture (3:41)
0:52-1:44 Fallen Kingdom Theme

 

19 You Can Be So Hard-Headed (2:28)
0:31-0:36 Owen's Raptor Squad
1:53-1:56 Fallen Kingdom Theme (First 4 notes only)

 

20 Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Free (3:29)
0:00-0:05 Owen's Raptor Squad
0:38-0:54 Fallen Kingdom Theme (Warped version)

1:09-1:26 Fallen Kingdom Theme (Partial)
2:35-2:49 Owen's Raptor Squad

 

21 There's Something About Maisie (1:20)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

22 World's Worst Bedtime Storyteller (2:27)
0:22-0:54 Fallen Kingdom Theme
0:54-1:15 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section
1:47-1:57 Fallen Kingdom Theme

 

23 Declaration of Indo-Pendence (4:02)
0:39-0:58 Owen's Raptor Squad
1:00-1:07 Indominous Rex A
2:58-3:11 Fallen Kingdom Theme
3:35-end Owen's Raptor Squad

 

24 To Free or Not to Free (3:00)
1:34-1:55 Jurassic Park Main Theme (Intro only)
1:55-2:30 Quiet Theme  
2:38-end Jurassic World Main Theme

 

25 The Neo-Jurassic Age (3:33)
0:25-1:12 Jurassic World Main Theme
1:25-1:51 Fallen Kingdom Theme
1:51-2:10 Fallen Kingdom Them B Section
2:10-2:37 Fallen Kingdom Theme
2:37-2:55 Fallen Kingdom Them B Section
2:55-end Fallen Kingdom Theme

 

26 At Jurassic World's End Credits \ Suite (10:55)
0:00-1:02 Adventure Theme
1:12-1:53 Jurassic World Main Theme
1:53-2:04 Jurassic Park Main theme (3 notes only)
2:04-3:20 Fallen Kingdom Theme
3:20-3:40 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section
3:40-4:11 Fallen Kingdom Theme

4:11-4:31 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section

4:31-5:18 Fallen Kingdom Theme
5:18-6:40 Quiet Theme
6:40-7:45 March Theme

7:45-8:08 non-thematic bridging material that was re-used in "Go With the Pyroclastic Flow" [0:00-0:14]
8:08-8:28 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section
8:28-9:00 Fallen Kingdom Theme
9:00-9:20 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section
9:20-9:57 Fallen Kingdom Theme

10:08-10:35 non-thematic bridging material that was re-used in "This Title Makes Me Jurassic" [0:00-0:38]
10:35-end Fallen Kingdom Theme

 

I welcome all corrections and omission!

[gkgyver 1,645]

 

"Too many themes!"

[Jay 37,285]

3 themes is too many?

[PrayodiBA 517]

Wow, this is far better than the first one!

One striking thing is how this feels  more "united" than the first ( The fallen kingdom theme binds it all together, akin to Han's theme in Solo)

 

The recording though, is F-ing FANTASTIC!!! It's superbly crystal clear! I love it ( just wish Solo would have been like this )

[Jay 37,285]

You don't mess around when recording at Abbey Road!

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

Various London musicians, not THE London musicians.

[PrayodiBA 517]

Well just want to post this quick before i forget.

 

A little cameo (1:43 - 2:03):

 

^^

That progression is similar to this:

 

^^

Which itself IMITATED the Shawshank lift:

 

 

[leeallen01 2,133]

Just started my first listen.

 

I think the entire piece of 'Double Cross to Bear' is Giacchino playing around with the 4 note introduction of Williams Main theme.

[Smaug The Iron 510]

41 minutes ago, Jay said:

12 Volcano to Death (1:38)

0:15-1:00 Quiet Theme
1:20-1:30 Jurassic Park Main Theme (Incomplete)

You can hear the jurassic Park Main Theme at 0:28-047

[leeallen01 2,133]

Holy shit! The Orchestra and Choir in 'Go With the Pyroclastic Flow' sounds fantastic!! The brass writing and recording is sensational.

[Knight of Ren 785]

One thing I really like about this one is the use of the choir. In the first one it appeared, but more disperse, playing with great effect in the final moments of the movie, but here you can hear it almost from the beginning as an individual force that helps the score to sound much more intense and emotional. Especially with the Fallen Kingdom theme.

[MedigoScan 324]

you could really hear the choir in the movie too

from the very first scene that has music (though that bit is not on the album)

 

btw 1:09-1:26 from Deep Blue Free (I still cant get over that title) also sorta uses the main theme's first part

[leeallen01 2,133]

Isn't Owen's Raptor theme basically the same as the main JW Theme? Just slightly modified.

[Jay 37,285]

Not at all, no.

[leeallen01 2,133]

But they're both the same amount of notes and both melodies are the same structure.

[Knight of Ren 785]

Well, the first three notes sound kind of similar, but from there each theme develops onto its own thing. But I think they are intended to be related somehow.

[leeallen01 2,133]

Well both start with 3 notes ascending, and then both follow with 4 notes (3 ascending and 1 descending note) 

[Jay 37,285]

1 hour ago, leeallen01 said:

I think the entire piece of 'Double Cross to Bear' is Giacchino playing around with the 4 note introduction of Williams Main theme.

 

I kinda hear what you're getting at but I don't think it was intentional.  Well, depends on whatever is happening on screen then I guess.

 

 

1 hour ago, Smaug the iron said:

12 Volcano to Death (1:38)
You can hear the jurassic Park Main Theme at 0:28-047

 

Yup, you're right!  Wow, that sounds cool!  It actually starts earlier, at 0:22.

 

 

36 minutes ago, MedigoScan said:

btw 1:09-1:26 from Deep Blue Free (I still cant get over that title) also sorta uses the main theme's first part

 

You mean the Fallen Kingom Theme?  It's disguised somewhat, but I think you're right

[Kasey Kockroach 2,343]

The brass in this score is AMAZING! Very King Kong-ish.

[A. A. Ron 1,738]

I'll have to give this a couple more spins and see the movie to know for sure, but I think the suite may be all I need.

[PrayodiBA 517]

Is This fallen kingdom theme B-section(?): (3:19 - 3:35)

 

It is nice.

Reminds me a lot of James newton howard's creation. Well as a matter of fact, it is similar to this one theme/motif from JNH's Fantastic Beasts: 

 

[MedigoScan 324]

yeah thats the B Theme

comes in either that soft way

 

or the choir way

[leeallen01 2,133]

After two listens through the score, so far I prefer his JW over this, mainly for the optimistic fun of it all with a mix of big happy themes and big evil themes. But Fallen Kingdom is really great. The brass is wonderful, as is his fresh use of choir throughout. I like the gothic style he went into for this. Several moments convinced me that Giacchino could create a damn good Batman score.

[MedigoScan 324]

Or a Godzilla score

[leeallen01 2,133]

16 minutes ago, MedigoScan said:

Or a Godzilla score

 

Indeed. There was a couple of moments where it had the vibe of Desplat's score.

[MedigoScan 324]

indeed

It sounded like a Wes Anderson movie at times too

 

[Knight of Ren 785]

7 hours ago, PrayodiBA said:

Is This fallen kingdom theme B-section(?): (3:19 - 3:35)

 

It is nice.

Reminds me a lot of James newton howard's creation. Well as a matter of fact, it is similar to this one theme/motif from JNH's Fantastic Beasts: 

 

I was listening to that part and I thought it reminded me of other score but I couldn't put my finger on it. Thanks for pointing it out!

 

BTW, I cannot wait for Fantastic Beasts 2! I LOVE that score so much.

[Giftheck 916]

1 hour ago, MedigoScan said:

Or a Godzilla score

 

This style with references from Akira Ifukube's original scores? Yes, please!

[thestat 342]

It is so good to hear a clearly recorded Giacchino score. The man is a totally different composer on this fidelity.

 

Seeing his astonishing concert at the Royal Albert, and having to justify to everyone why he sounds so bad otherwise, has hopefully made an impact. He has some real talent but the silly recording gimmicks have hampered him, not with his buddies of course. Chad Seiter is one of the most talented composers out there and he does not go with the mono sound. Now, it must have been someone in the industry with the clout to state that to Giacchino and he has had to adapt. Good fucking riddance. Even though both scores (Jurassic and Incredibles) are only perfunctory at best, having this sort of recording for War of the Planet of Apes, well - a huge fucking missed opportunity. 

[crocodile 7,984]

I'm not sure whether anyone has mentioned it already but it feels bit odd Williams isn't mentioned at all in the booklet. His themes are not credited, neither Bayona nor Giacchino mention him in their notes, there is no thank you.

 

Karol

[Jay 37,285]

12 hours ago, PrayodiBA said:

Is This fallen kingdom theme B-section(?): (3:19 - 3:35)

 

Why did you phrase that like a question?  Just scroll up:

 

 

21 hours ago, Jay said:

26 At Jurassic World's End Credits \ Suite (10:55)
0:00-1:02 Adventure Theme
1:12-1:53 Jurassic World Main Theme
1:53-2:04 Jurassic Park Main theme (3 notes only)
2:04-3:20 Fallen Kingdom Theme
3:20-3:40 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section
3:40-4:11 Fallen Kingdom Theme

4:11-4:31 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section

4:31-5:18 Fallen Kingdom Theme
5:18-6:40 Quiet Theme
6:40-7:45 March Theme

7:45-8:08 non-thematic bridging material that was re-used in "Go With the Pyroclastic Flow" [0:00-0:14]
8:08-8:28 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section
8:28-9:00 Fallen Kingdom Theme
9:00-9:20 Fallen Kingdom Theme B Section
9:20-9:57 Fallen Kingdom Theme

10:08-10:35 non-thematic bridging material that was re-used in "This Title Makes Me Jurassic" [0:00-0:38]
10:35-end Fallen Kingdom Theme

[Jay 37,285]

Now up on Spotify!

 

https://open.spotify.com/album/1DAneuNUMxEq0GgMogTv8X?si=nGteC_aESuSDNuCKnEChow

And all the usual online places

 

https://play.google.com/store/music/album?id=B6pl47htlv35mywpsw2oi6posse

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/1391415975

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DFNS324/

https://www.7digital.com/artist/michael-giacchino/release/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-deluxe-edition-7961815  [16/44 lossless]

All digital versions feature 2 bonus tracks NOT available on the physical CD, which is out today as well

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG1QP1F

[PokeDocMatt 57]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

All digital versions feature 2 bonus tracks NOT available on the physical CD, which is out today as well

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG1QP1F

 

Am I not seeing the same thing? The amazon link to the physical CD has 26 tracks, all the same length as the iTunes and Amazon Digital albums, which also have 26 tracks... I was confused by this because I got the Amazon digital album which describes itself as Deluxe, but don't see a difference at all.

 

Loving the score so far. It's like a totally different Giacchino has emerged. In a lot of ways, it feels like Lost World, with a lot of tense, directionless (but enjoyable) filler music, where as the first Jurassic World had so much of autopilot Giacchino 4-chord phrases that was just a snooze fest. 

[Jay 37,285]

The track list Amazon put on the page for the CD is wrong.  The actual physical CD only has 24 tracks.  Proof:

 

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26734-michael-giacchinos-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-2018/&do=findComment&comment=1493185