#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Indeed! I was actually surprised a fairly successful TV actor like James Nesbitt took what is essentially a background role. I guess he did it for the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 35 minutes ago, Barnald said: You do have a very good point of course. Also, it's quite possible Jackson deliberately steered clear of casting too many cantankerous, well-known older actors on the back of JRD's complaints regarding make-up and such on LOTR. Imagining having to put up with this x13 every day. Well it's not just that. How many well known, older actors, especially those we've been discussing, would be willing to spend a couple years in NZ, plus pick ups, doing this? And as you said, they would not be as easily corralled as unknown actors, and would be making demands about the number of lines they got, etc. Not to mention their salary would be much higher. These are just fantasy lists, and would never have had any realistic chance of happening, even if Jackson wanted to go that route. At best you get an Ian McShane as Thorin and maybe one or two other name actors. Barnald 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Richard Armitage would disagree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 There should have been only one criteria in casting the dwarves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 23 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Well it's not just that. How many well known, older actors, especially those we've been discussing, would be willing to spend a couple years in NZ, plus pick ups, doing this? And as you said, they would not be as easily corralled as unknown actors, and would be making demands about the number of lines they got, etc. Not to mention their salary would be much higher. These are just fantasy lists, and would never have had any realistic chance of happening, even if Jackson wanted to go that route. At best you get an Ian McShane as Thorin and maybe one or two other name actors. Again, very true. For all we know, roles were offered to the likes of Cosmo and Cox, but they didn't want to spend 2 years of fairly gruelling work in NZ (in terms of make-up, costume, physical shit) at their age, away from their family. It's no coincidence Jackson chose reasonably well-known actors for the big six roles (Thorin, Kili, Fili, Bofur, Balin, Dwalin) - Dean O'Gorman aside - and then filled out the rest largely with New Zealand character actors who he knew wouldn't give him any trouble (being utterly thankful for the role) and would probably be enjoyable to work with. It's very logical approach from a film-making perspective. I reckon Jackson agreed to entertain one fairly grumpy arsehole for the sake of art (Ken Stott). With Nesbitt, weren't there rumours that part of the reason the role appealed to him was because it offered the chance to save his marriage (he was having troubles at the time), uprooting the family to New Zealand for a 'new' (if temporary) life? Didn't work for him in the long run, but I'd definitely say he gained greater international exposure on the back of the films. He's a fine actor, and very memorable in the role (though he'd probably have wished the additional BotFA stuff had been included in the TC for his own sake). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: It's also possible roles were offered to the likes of Cosmo and Cox, but after they read the script, they said: "Are you kidding me? Call me when you'll have made a decent story out of this." then walked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Cox wanted to be paid in Dwarvish gold, from the hoard of Erebor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 A quick glance at Cosmo's CV of late suggests he probably would have welcomed the gig. I may be wrong, but Cox doesn't seem to act as much as he once did. We could always cast his science professor namesake instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 David Warner as the voice of Smaug is my final offer, along with Sam Neill as Thranduil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Well that was my final offer, but I refuse to budge on Julians Sand as Thranduil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quintus 5,399 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Ron Perlman as Falkor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Quintus said: Ron Perlman as Falkor. But he is already playing Hellboy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Jim Broadbent, perhaps? I think he would make a great Bombadil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Actually Simon Russell Beale would probably be a great Bombadil (or possibly a body double for Ken Stott's Balin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 He was a great Shirrif Of Nothingham in BBC's Robin Hood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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