Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I seem to recall Doug tweeting that the book will discuss some unreleased sections of the score. Since he isn't in the habit of writing "unused concept" clauses in the finished book, it most likely means that these will be discussed with the context of an added CD. As for what will be in there, I think the whole theatrical finale of An Unexpected Journey (including that spellbinding eagle music) will surely be included. The music for the funeral scene is a given, as is "Valley of Imladris" (Doug said it almost made it into the original album). Beyond those, it's anybody's guess really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 . SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 But he also said that he hopes talking publicly about the unreleased music will bring attention to it, so that expanded releases can happen. Which doesn't sound at all like a CD of any kind will be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I'm preparing myself for a book-only thing, with no bonus included whatsoever, which I suspected a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Well, I think it WILL stick to the Special Edition OSTs, only with the occasional additional, unreleased portion being described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Forgive my being circumspect, but all questions will be answered and patience will be rewarded. Chen G. and SafeUnderHill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 @Jim Ware at this point there are only two Hobbit related questions I would like answered, the rest can wait for the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 1. How much unreleased music is there? and 2. Where the hell is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Adams 494 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 11 hours ago, Jim Ware said: Forgive my being circumspect, but all questions will be answered and patience will be rewarded. Forget it, Jim. It's Chinatown. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I believe it is pronounced JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Question, why is this still a separate forum? I know some people are looking forward to the book, but that's pretty much the only active thing going on Tolkien music wise. A couple of posts a week max, in 2, maybe 3 threads doesn't seem to justify a sub forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 It's a permanent forum. THE home for Tolkien discussion on the internet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 It’s better off kept in here. Once less feature of the forum for Quintus to complain about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: Question, why is this still a separate forum? I know some people are looking forward to the book, but that's pretty much the only active thing going on Tolkien music wise. A couple of posts a week max, in 2, maybe 3 threads doesn't seem to justify a sub forum. The fuck do YOU want? You bitched about Tolkien threads on General Discussion in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Gentlemen, behave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jay said: Gentlemen, behave! Jason, don't you mean gkguyver behave? I simply asked a question. You responded normally, as did Bilbo. Guyver did NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I agree with Stefan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 Yeah, only one person overreacted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelo 5 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Hi, it's my first post here, hello to you all This place seems like my best shot at doing this, so I've got 2 questions for the awesome @Doug Adams: 1. We know the lyrics for LotR film music come from texts in Quenya, Khuzdul, Black Speech, etc., but the actual lyrics in the tracks quite frequently used only parts of the source texts, often out of order, or even just some syllables of the original words, sometimes not making much sense in the final effect. Were the texts simply edited to suit the music or...? How did the process of turning the source texts into the lyrics look like? 2. Is your upcoming Hobbit music book going to include lyrics to "non-canon" pieces like the film version of Thorin vs. Azog cue from AUJ? I really, really want to know what that piece's text is about. SafeUnderHill and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 8 hours ago, Stefancos said: Jason, don't you mean gkguyver behave? I simply asked a question. You responded normally, as did Bilbo. Guyver did NOT. It would be a simple question from anybody else's fingers. From yours, however, it's a sanctimonious question and quite provocative, considering your behavior when the split happened. And since you barely post here anyway, one might ask what your incentive is to do so with such a question. Because the obvious answer is: because you wanted it. Bitterness over not being mod yourself should be channeled to somewhere else, applications should be submitted somewhere else, as well as suggestions, born out of pure concern for the Board I'm sure; and not in the form of dismissive and patronizing posts in a thread and discussion that have nothing to do with it. I rest my case, Dutchman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I seem to recall the same. And once we have the text, it becomes easier to guess what's in the actual libretto. Hell, we already have a fair bit of the lyrics from Piano books, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelo 5 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I remember Doug saying something about lyrics too, but can't remember if it included reworked pieces like that one, so I wanna make sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelo 5 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, SafeUnderHill said: I think I asked specifically about that Nazgul piece, after Doug teasing that it featured lyrics written about the Azog, and he said the book discusses the original intentions but includes all lyrics (including the Azog/Thorin alternate). I believe you and sure hope it is going to be that way, but I still would like to hear a confirmation from Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 You could try his twitter or blog if he doesn't respond here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 The problem with the lyrics in that scene by the way is that Tolkien conceived common speech (and, by proxy, Adunaic) and Khuzdul as closely related. Both are vaguely Semitic sounding. As a result, whatever lyrics are in there, while they make for a great chant, don't distinguish themselves far enough from "revelation of the ringwraiths." There's a moment in there where I could swear hearing "[neba]bitham ma[ganane]." Although on the whole Its clearly a different text. Either way, it's still a wicked chant. Khuzdul makes for great singing! 59 minutes ago, SafeUnderHill said: I think I asked specifically about that Nazgul piece, after Doug teasing that it featured lyrics written about the Azog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelo 5 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, SafeUnderHill said: I found it: Ah, yes, I've seen that one. The way I interpreted it before still made it ambiguous for me whether both the lyrics and the score will be talked about only in their original form or just the score, but maybe I misunderstood it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelo 5 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Yeah, I get it now. Hope it's going to turn out this way indeed, can't wait for that book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 3,949 Posted November 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2017 One could be made to assume the possibility that, with all this buzz generated by the television series, the timing might be right to publish a certain book and/or more music from certain film scores.... bollemanneke, Archangelo and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Archangelo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: I agree! Now is the perfect time to release The Music Of The Star Wars Films book! Featuring Episodes 1-7, The Clone Wars, and Rogue One. Then an expanded edition in 2019 to include Episode 8 in the run up to Episode 9 and then 25 years later and expanded version finally giving us 2 pages of extra material covering all the films released since Episode 8! I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I wish the things Doug spends time writing could come out in a timely manner once he finishes writing them. It must be frustrating to wait and wait and wait for studio politics to catch up to what's ready to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 He should just post his writings in the JWFAN Reviews section! Bilbo and Archangelo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 A written piece of work of the length of Doug's books rarely gets published as soon as the author is done writing. There's all sorts of proofing to be done prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I know that, but he first talked about his silent movie book in a podcast about The Hobbit in 2012. It's almost 2018 and it isn't even announced yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 4 hours ago, BloodBoal said: He should just post his writings in the JWFAN Reviews section! Not gonna lie, I laughed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Adams 494 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 7 hours ago, Jay said: I wish the things Doug spends time writing could come out in a timely manner once he finishes writing them. It must be frustrating to wait and wait and wait for studio politics to catch up to what's ready to go Yup! But you're always at the mercy of someone else with these things, so you learn to be content with things inching along ... as long as the forward progress doesn't cease entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I suppose you can just start more new books while you wait, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 "The Music of Tauriel and Legolas: An Amazon Original Series." Barnald and Archangelo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Bilbo and mstrox 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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