Popular Post Barnald 365 Posted August 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2022 1) The wait goes on... 2) I suddenly feel very old. Feels like yesterday we heard the first samples of the score... blondheim, Yavar Moradi, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcole4 12 Posted August 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2022 Damn, I wish we could crowd fund the book or something. I want this damn thing and the rarities haha. Yavar Moradi, Incanus, enderdrag64 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Is this the real cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Hasn’t that been posted before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 You know what? Yea, I think it has, hasn't it. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Adams 494 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Production cover. The final would likely need to reflect the film imagery more directly. Actors' likenesses, etc. Sorry! WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,714 Posted October 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2022 Any hope of seeing this book in print in the near future Doug? Stark, enderdrag64, Bofur01 and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 It’s been 84 years… Nick1Ø66, Chen G. and Evanus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Is there any reason why one of the specialty labels (like LLL or Intrada) couldn't pursue Hobbit expansions themselves? Why are the music rights for this particular series so obscenely complex? enderdrag64 and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Who said they were complex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, Jay said: Who said they were complex? Just the impression I always got whenever the subject of Hobbit expansions (or updated LOTR expansions with more music) came up. Not like there's LA union fees to contend with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 The Hobbit rights lie entirely within WB; They released the OST albums on their own Water Tower Records label, so there is no music label the rights are split with You could say they are less complex than the average score in that sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 I would think it’s a commercial decision. They obviously don’t feel there much more to be milked from the films that have been released but they are also probably unwilling to hand over the jewel (and let’s face it Middle-earth is probably the strongest franchise they have left) to a specialty label just in case. Maybe Doug’s book in 2024 for the 10 anniversary of the end of the trilogy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Guess I just don't see why WB would be opposed to a label like LLL working on Hobbit expansions, after waving through Harry Potter and Matrix expansions in recent years. I can understand reluctance/disinterest from their own record labels (commercial reasons or whatever) but they seem unconcerned with what the labels are pursuing, so long as they pocket the licensing fees. bollemanneke and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, crumbs said: Guess I just don't see why WB would be opposed to a label like LLL working on Hobbit expansions, after waving through Harry Potter and Matrix expansions in recent years. I can understand reluctance/disinterest from their own record labels (commercial reasons or whatever) but they seem unconcerned with what the labels are pursuing, so long as they pocket the licensing fees. I would bet the LotR soundtracks outsell HP and Matrix combined. enderdrag64 and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 The commercial success argument is a really strange one because A: every year labels release scores where you wonder "who the fack would buy that?" so The Hobbit stands above all of them, and B: because there is no physical release needed, "only" assembling and mastering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Penna 3,687 Posted March 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2023 I'd have thought the reason was simpler - Shore created albums he was happy with at the time and no one would do an expansion without his blessing. I'm sure we've had this discussion before when they first came out, but instead of that stupid regular/special edition thing where both were 2-CD releases, Shore should've done single disc OSTs and CR-style releases (perhaps digital-only) and just closed the book in one fell swoop. Trope, mstrox, Evanus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: I'd have thought the reason was simpler - Shore created albums he was happy with at the time and no one would do an expansion without his blessing. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 What if someone wanted a longer program, but not complete? Essentially an all killer no filler version of the complete score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blondheim 1,157 Posted April 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2023 The LOTR and Hobbit score don’t have any filler. Bilbo, TolkienSS, Trope and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 2 hours ago, blondheim said: The LOTR and Hobbit score don’t have any filler. Nah, FOTR aside, there are a couple bars I could live without, if I had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, A Farewell to Kings said: Nah, FOTR aside, there are a couple bars I could live without, if I had to. Too many notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 That’s the same mindset as that Zubin Mehta Tristan that had the middle of the love duet cut… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Is it the dirty part? Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I dont think Shore believes virtually everyone is happy with the scores as released though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 He's probably had Doug tell him about the desire for more music. Not sure about he himself being aware though. He doesn't strike me as a man who would read up on opinions online, well, ever. I would even concede that LOTR style Complete Recordings aren't necessary (though wanted), but certainly an extensive collection of alternates and unreleased music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I wouldn't mind a digital museum of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 One "disc" (75 minutes) for each film would suffice, providing that it would NOT follow the lead of the LOTR rarities disc and NOT include full tracks that were already released, just because there is a few extra bars in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SUH 65 Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2023 I very much enjoyed reading this excerpt. It was fun listening back to 'Under Hill' after reading it. I would give an arm and a leg to read the whole book! Imagine being able to listen along to the complete Hobbit scores while reading along to these kinds of insights. I wonder if Doug's analysis points out the melodic similarities between the Goblin Town melody and the Lake Town melody. Seems like Shore was drawing a intentional comparison between the two haphazard dwellings. They follow the same melodic shape - with an initial rise then three sets of three repeated notes before falling to a final lower note. And will there be any other interesting connections and nuggets we've yet to discover! Bofur01, crocodile, MaxMovieMan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxMovieMan 271 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Will we never get this book or the recordings? Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,439 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 3 hours ago, MaxMovieMan said: Will we never get this book or the recordings? bollemanneke, Jay, MaxMovieMan and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Say it is not so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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