Jay 37,287 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: I don't see it selling out quickly. A mostly forgotten movie with a mostly forgotten Williams score? (no judgment on its quality). You're probably right - but you never know. I'm personally going ot pre-order right away. I missed out on Twilight Time's Conrack release. I got their The Fury though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Plus, it's an isolated score, and you can list it in a discography, so it's worthless. Ha ha ha... Back on the subjet.... They will sell copies very quickly ... yes, 3, but very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Twilight Time series of BR and DVDs is done as limited releases and it's focused mostly on old and obscure titles, so I don't think any of their titles ever sold more than the initial pressing. Btw, their Blu-ray of The Fury contains the full scoring sessions synced with film, with studio chat in between takes included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yea, its cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,466 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I love isolated scores. It appeals very much to my 'film interest' side (and how music works in context). So I'd be interested in checking this out. I have a digital version of STANLEY & IRIS, and I think I've seen the movie twice. It's an OK affair -- pretty straightforward class issue love drama. No masterpiece, though. The gorgeous Williams score is probably the best part of it. At some point in time, I want to start collecting Williams films on legit formats, but it will be somewhere down the road. I've seen them all, and own them in some kind of format (whether DVD or files), but there's something about having them all on a shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 how much unreleased music does this score have? the OST is like 30 minutes long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Did the fury iso score contain any music not in the oficcial expanded soundtracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Stupid question, they are selling this in the USA, so is it region locked? I didnt find any information there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 That's a great question. Some googling led to to find this: Quote 3) Region Locking: There are only three Twilight Time titles that are Region A locked. These are The Bullet Train, Heaven and Earth, and The Disappearance. Also, the initial pressings of The Roots of Heaven were Region A locked (subsequent pressings are Region Free). All other Twilight Time releases are Region Free. http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=182882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Thanks! This will be great for the Mrs. I love the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 4/1/2017 at 3:32 PM, Bespin said: But an isolated score is, excuse me, not very interresting... It means a lot of fade-in, fade-out... merging.... constant volume variations. It's practically unlistenable all alone. From what I remember another Williams iso score in a TT BLuray (The Fury) was really the recording sessions. It had even the bit of a dialogue on the start of each cue. Another iso score I had checked (Nicholas and Alexandra) in aTT bluray had even the complete cues, when the cue in the film was dialed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I suspect there are different types of "isolated scores". I think on some movie discs, it's the music track, made to be mixed with the voices and fx. So there are volume variations (eg. The Witches of Eastwick DVD.) And, on others, as some points out here, it's a track made especially to be listened all alone. So as I understand.... without volume variations (and perhaps less edits)? Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 yes, the first is an iso + FX score, and features all the volume variations etc. The iso score that features the music alone, usually won't have the volume variations, but it will have the edits inside the cue so as to match the action on screen. Of course if the edit has been in the end and in the film the cue just dies out, in the iso score it could continue. 22 hours ago, Jay said: I missed out on Twilight Time's Conrack release. huh? You didn't miss it. (you missed the December sale that included it though) It's not OOP. It's still there! http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/26735/CONRACK-1974/ I blind bought it , and this film was a wonderful surprise. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Yes. So, it's the jungle. It may need to be documented on a website with a lot of categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I suspect there are different types of "isolated scores". I think on some movie discs, it's the music track, made to be mixed with the voices and fx. So there are volume variations (eg. The Witches of Eastwick DVD.) And, on others, as some points out here, it's a track made especially to be listened all alone. So as I understand.... without volume variations (and perhaps less edits)? Am I right? Yes, I literally already said that. 58 minutes ago, filmmusic said: huh? You didn't miss it. (you missed the December sale that included it though) It's not OOP. It's still there! http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/26735/CONRACK-1974/ I blind bought it , and this film was a wonderful surprise. What? That's so weird! When I was at screenarchives.com ordering Stanley and Iris, I typed "conrack" into the search window and it didn't come up! How weird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 So do we know what type of isolated score wil be on this new BluRay? Is this something you see in the specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 It's a proper one from the recording sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 If we suppose the guy who answered in behalf of Twilight Time Movies, understood the subtility of the question. So there is a possibility that you ordered a BluRay that only contains an isolated score taked out the film "stems". You are not sure at 100 %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, Bespin said: If we suppose the guy who answered in behalf of Twilight Time Movies, understood the subtility of the question. So you may have ordered a BluRay that only contains an isolated score taked out the film "stems". I don't think so. The film stems are usually used when the iso score has FX too. When they use the recording sessions, they don't do anything to the volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, Bespin said: You are not sure at 100 %. Bespin. I am sure. 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Ordered!! Also Conrack. My poor wallet, this site will end my marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Who needs women! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 In any case, not me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 But Me!! I just cannot live without one. and she is the lucky one, she is going to get 2 cool BLUs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, hornist said: and she is the lucky one, she is going to get 2 cool BLUs... "Not another movie you want to watch, just because of the music we hear in the background?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,466 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 As far as CONRACK is concerned, there ain't a lot of music. There's the main titles (released on FSM) and bits and bobs throughout the film, probably totalling at some 15-20 minutes, maximum. The film is OK, but it's no DEAD POET'S SOCIETY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 10:23 AM, filmmusic said: I don't think so. The film stems are usually used when the iso score has FX too. Not so. The film stems were used to create the isolated score for The Bounty, and from what I heard, film stems were also used on The Russia House. Both of those isolated scores contained no sound effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 And that's why I said "usually" and not "always"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 7:42 AM, hornist said: Stupid question, they are selling this in the USA, so is it region locked? I didnt find any information there. Official product page says its region free! http://www.twilighttimemovies.com/stanley-and-iris-blu-ray/ Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 How long is the actual score in the film? I do have the OOP varese cd thank goodness! Its a small lovely intimate score. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Jay said: Official product page says its region free! http://www.twilighttimemovies.com/stanley-and-iris-blu-ray/ Yes, ALL TT Blurays are region free except 2-3. (one of them being Heaven & Earth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I didn't realize before that Mike Matessino does ALL the isolated music tracks for Twilight Time releases (The Fury is the only Twilight Time BD I've bought), so I asked him about it and he said that the Stanley and Iris track was created from the 3-track scoring masters and is actually presented in 3-channel DTS audio (LCR) on the disc, same as The Fury. All of the music as heard in the film is included, including source music, with some variations here and there where the film dialed out the score. On 1/6/2017 at 3:26 PM, Corellian2019 said: The film stems were used to create the isolated score for The Bounty, and from what I heard, film stems were also used on The Russia House. Both of those isolated scores contained no sound effects Film stems were NOT used for The Russia House. They used the 3.0 Stereo (LCR) mix from Bruce Botnick’s digital 48-track master, and all of the performance edits were re-created to match the film. thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thats good news. I suspect this might pave way to a an expanded CD set in the near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hopefully! I've been saying that since page 1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 9 hours ago, Jay said: Film stems were NOT used for The Russia House. They used the 3.0 Stereo (LCR) mix from Bruce Botnick’s digital 48-track master, and all of the performance edits were re-created to match the film. I stand corrected. I assumed that the film stems were used because the isolated score contained the film mixes for every cue, as opposed to using the album mixes for the material that was already released. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Is anyone planning on picking this BD up? I would love to see a breakdown of the complete score with timings and details on which bits were left of the brief OST. Hope TT gives us more JW iso's in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, JTWfan77 said: Is anyone planning on picking this BD up? On 1/4/2017 at 4:19 PM, Jay said: Ordered! 1 hour ago, JTWfan77 said: Hope TT gives us more JW iso's in the future. They've already announced How To Steal A Million is coming in April. thx99 and Joni Wiljami 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 3 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Is anyone planning on picking this BD up? On 5.1.2017 at 6:03 PM, hornist said: Ordered!! Also Conrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Jay said: Ordered! Awesome! Look forward to your analysis of the unreleased music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I've never seen the film before and never listened to the OST album before, so its unlikely I'll be chomping at the bit to spend hours analyzing the music when I get it. Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jay said: I've never seen the film before and never listened to the OST album before, so its unlikely I'll be chomping at the bit to spend hours analyzing the music when I get it. Sorry! Oh no! That's too bad. It's really a lovely little film with such wonderful performances. I still have it on letterboxed laserdisc. When you say you have never listened to the OST before, is it perhaps because you don't own it, or you aren't interested in it? I fell in love with the score the moment I first played the CD back in 1990. It really showcases what a wonderfully versatile composer the Maestro is. When people say Williams lacks subtlety this is the score I would point them to. 4 hours ago, Jay said: They've already announced How To Steal A Million is coming in April. I hope TT does SpaceCamp at some stage, would live to hear the little bits of unreleased stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Oh no! That's too bad. It's really a lovely little film with such wonderful performances. When you say you have never listened to the OST before, is it perhaps because you don't own it, or you aren't interested in it? I fell in love with the score the moment I first played the CD back in 1990. It really showcases what a wonderfully versatile composer the Maestro is. No, I purchased the OST last year. Just haven't gotten around to listening to it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Oh, okay. Well you're in for a treat then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Quote I hope TT does SpaceCamp at some stage, would live to hear the little bits of unreleased stuff. Intrada obtained a license to actually release all of the unreleased bits on their CDs, but the studio was unable to turn up any usable elements, so they had to simply reissue the OST program (sourced from the album master) each time. Of course its possible the missing elements could turn up at any time, but if they don't, then the only source for on a future SpaceCamp isolated music track would be the music stem of the final film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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