BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Don't skip the main titles, the second verse changes (and NPH's voice) depending on the book 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 From what I could tell, the opening song was different even from episode 1 to episode 2, different footage too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 18 hours ago, leeallen01 said: I prefer it when it was Signs Yep, the Source Code main titles is steeped in JNH's vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Three episodes into it, and I'm bored. It has its moments and I like its humour and Wes Anderson-lite approach, but it drags too much. Also, the music sounds like dull dishwater. I prefer the film. Once and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offline 29 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I dont think it's as dull as you do, but it's not...great. I did very much enjoy getting to see Book 4 adapted in some way though. I say you should at least finish. It gets a little better. I'll probably watch just to see them do the other books. But like you, I also prefer the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I prefer the film's cast. I think the TV show is much better produced though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Is it? Maybe it's character is more unique, But the film tops it in acting, production values and music for sure. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 The biggest problem with the show is that it draaaaaaaaaaaaags out. We've watched the first 4 episodes so far, and honestly everything that happened in them could have been summed up in 2 episodes, and probably should have since the showrunners should assume everyone watching has seen the movie already. Or, they could have just considered the movie as the "pilot", and had this new cast take over for the remaining books only, or something. I did think that episodes 3 and 4 were an improvement over 1 & 2 - the pace DID pick up, and the actors seem to be a lot more familiar with their characters. Plus, that snake doctor guy was a nice breath of fresh air to break up every single scene being between the kids and Olaf otherwise. BTW, about the music, I saw this post on FSM: Quote The episodes are credited: JNH: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 Chris Bacon: 7, 8 Sven Faulconer: 3 So there you go, JNH DID score the majority of the season. Unfortunately, the music is nothing to write home about... Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 It certainly isn't, the music, that is. Also, is it me, or does the snake guy sound like he's doing as poor impersonation of Billy Connolley? I still liked him though. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I don't remember any of the specific performances from the movie (haven't seen it since I saw it in the theater), other than Jim Carey's superior Olaf version. One thing I like about the show is the anachronistic time setting (IE, it seems like roughly the 1950s, yet Olaf mentions streaming TV and buying things online, etc) Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 7 hours ago, alextrombone94 said: I prefer the film's cast. I think the TV show is much better produced though. The cinematography, set-design, makeup, special effects, and score of the film are much more impressive. Makes the show look drab and cramped by comparison! Cerebral Cortex and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Some of the obvious green screen work is really disappointing. Like when the judge lady comes to Olaf's door with the lamb and he's talking to her, when its a closeup of her, she's CLEARLY on a green screen with the entire neighborhood behind her all fake. Why couldn't they just film her outside in a real neighborhood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I did kind of enjoy the animation in it. I didn't mind the unrealistic shots. I probably won't watch any more, though - unless any of the later JNH is super good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Jay said: I don't remember any of the specific performances from the movie (haven't seen it since I saw it in the theater), other than Jim Carey's superior Olaf version. They were all, more or less, quite good and memorable (Streep especially, in the Wide Window portion). But they did have an A-list cast to work with. NPH is fine enough, but not nearly as entertaining as Carey. 1 hour ago, Jay said: Some of the obvious green screen work is really disappointing. Like when the judge lady comes to Olaf's door with the lamb and he's talking to her, when its a closeup of her, she's CLEARLY on a green screen with the entire neighborhood behind her all fake. Why couldn't they just film her outside in a real neighborhood? Sometimes the intentional look works, sometimes it doesn't. I wish they embraced that Wes Anderson-ish tone with more confidence. The writing and set-pieces has many moments of promise, but often gets deflated by either lack of budget, or just awkward pacing (the show's Achilles' heel). Once and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I'm surprised the netflix execs didn't ask for the early episodes to be tightened up, since its basically their current flagship show. I assume as the series went on, the books got longer and more detailed (like Harry Potter book series), and there will be enough material to fill out 2 episodes each. But these early books they REALLY had to stretch things to fill 2 episodes! And I think they made the wrong decision to do it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said: The cinematography, set-design, makeup, special effects, and score of the film are much more impressive. Makes the show look drab and cramped by comparison! Well you have to take into account that it probably has a much lower budget than the film. Apart from the cast, it felt much closer to the original material to me. Having been a massive fan of the books (its literary style as well as its story) Lemony Snicket having a much larger role in the TV series was really good thing. I felt more like I was in the books than I did in the film. The opening scene on the beach is almost exactly how I'd imagined it. Also I think each book benefits from having more than just a 35/45 minute adaptation I prefer the humour in the TV series. Outside Jim Carrey's portrayal of Olaf, I don't think film handles humour (that) well. Of course Thomas Newman's score is superior, but I don't think the music is as important in the TV series. I was too engrossed to notice the music to be honest, which is rare for me. I just think the series is more suited to TV. I enjoy both adaptations, but I absolutely love the TV series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KK 3,307 Posted January 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2017 Actually, I think the music contributes significantly to the poor pacing of the show. There were odd moments where emotional beats were either unaddressed, or scored wrong, and as a viewer, you're just left waiting impatiently for the next line or "event". Must have been a schedule thing, but the spotting wasn't very good. Sometimes the show really does just feel like a loose "series of unfortunate events". Once, Offline, Arpy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offline 29 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Can not agree more with this I actually hated most of the music. It was all too in your face wacky for me. The only cue / theme I enjoyed was when Violet was thinking / inventing. I can only recall it cropping up twice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 So would Gia have done a better job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offline 29 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 If you're being serious, then maybe? I don't really associate him with super "out there" scores though. Thomas Newman I think captured a great feel in the film, but I don't think I've really heard Giacchino do that sort of thing (and he's my favorite composer besides Williams). I actually thought James Newton Howard would've been a good choice, but this is too off-the-walls in the wrong direction...in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The main title song (not JNH) is pretty nice, I remember. But the score didn't do much for me, although it was solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 There's one nice theme for the children that recurs a few times, first accompanying that shot of Justice Strauss (Cusak) reading in her library. I'm not sure if it's for the orphans, or Lemony Snicket himself. Overall I think the show works, but almost all the time I was distracted by how close it was to the film, bringing up those great performances from Carrey, Streep, Browning and Spall... Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 It's not really a show where the music ever takes center stage. If the exact same music was in these episodes but it was written entirely by guys we'd never heard of, there would be practically no discussion of it anywhere. But since its JNH it gets discussed. We've finished episode 6 now and the show truly seems to be getting a little better with each episode. I think NPH has finally sunk into Olaf (his sailor character was the least Olaf-like acting yet) and the kids are better too. It's still not a great show by any means, but its fine enough. Hopefully the next 2 episodes will be really interesting since there's no movie equivalent to compare to any more. Arpy and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Renewed Netflix today to check this out (plus OA, plus Saul is back soon, plus BoJack). I'm halfway through episode 1 - the music is subtle and effective. Can't really ask for much more than that for a show like this where, as Jay points out, the scoring is more background. It didn't need JNH though - I can only imagine that he was attracted to the project. I do hope there will be a release of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 On 1/19/2017 at 0:27 PM, Jay said: It's not really a show where the music ever takes center stage. If the exact same music was in these episodes but it was written entirely by guys we'd never heard of, there would be practically no discussion of it anywhere. But since its JNH it gets discussed. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 We finished the series last night. The show absolutely gets better as it goes along, though its never great by any means. Occasionally funny and that's good enough for a casual watch. The biggest flaw I think they made was spending 8 hours in this world and only barely hinting at the larger picture - ie, why their parents died, what the secret society is, etc. I completely understand that they don't want to reveal everything in the first season when they knew 2 more were practically guaranteed, but shit, give us SOMETHING to make us want to come back next year. As for the score, I thought that the Chris Bacon music in episodes 7 and 8 was EASILY the best music in the entire season! They actually let the score be loud, interesting, and take center stage in some montage sequences there. He should score the rest of the series! Arpy and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Curious to know what people who haven't read the books think of the series. They do leave a lot of unanswered questions, even to people like me who've read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Well, I haven't read the books, and Ive posted my thoughts on every episode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Jay said: Well, I haven't read the books, and Ive posted my thoughts on every episode... I know 🙂 You should definitely read them, they are very good. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 16 hours ago, Jay said: As for the score, I thought that the Chris Bacon music in episodes 7 and 8 was EASILY the best music in the entire season! They actually let the score be loud, interesting, and take center stage in some montage sequences there. He should score the rest of the series! Similar to how Giacchino and Seiter's Fringe music was so-so and then when Tilton got in board he took it to a whole other level of quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 No, because even though it was drastically better, its just MOSTLY a quiet background kind of score, its not an important part of the show, its still rarely ever in the forefront, or full of melodic themes. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I've never read the books, but I saw the film. I didn't really feel that anything very crucial was unexplained. Now on episode 2 and I'm really enjoying this. Their use of Warburton as Snicket is way more effective than Law was in the film. It's also a lot funnier - NPH is perfectly cast as Olaf. It'll be interesting to see whether it starts dragging - I've thought for a while that books should be TV series due to the amount of subplot and 'ambience' that gets missed out of a film. Maybe this is a good test. I'm certainly happy I renewed Netflix to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Puddy is indeed great at Snicket, I quite enjoyed all his appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I was a bit indifferent towards Snicket at first because I always imagined him just as a narrator. I thought I would prefer to not see his face but I end up really enjoying his appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I'm just finishing episode 4 and I'm very impressed. I disagree with those who think it's too slow - I'm loving the amount of detail which would've been completely lost in the movie. The music seems to be getting less memorable the further I get, but I think it's more because it just sinks into the background. Warburton's really sinking into the role of Snicket. Frankly he's kicking the shit out of Jude Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Yea, I think he's the best part of the show. I like the two actors playing Mother and Father as well, but their scenes are very short. The music really does sink into the background until finally in the last two episodes it's given a chance to shine in some montages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Binge over. Season finished. (it's what happens when you're ill for 2 days and counting, and have run out of productive things to do). Roll on season 2! Awesome ending song too. (albeit with some terrible lip syncing) And I just went and watched the intro scene from the film again - NPH is definitely better for this role than Carrey, who is more cartoonish. Harris really feels like a nasty piece of work. Clearly the two just went in a completely different direction. I think to an extent the series just has much better and 'free' writing. However, it's not entirely fair to compare 2 hours vs 8 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 And your thoughts on Chris Bacon's score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 That was 7 and 8 right? All I noticed from the latter part of the season was the nice cue as they entered boarding school. I think I stopped noticing the music largely after the first couple of episodes. wonder if he was also responsible for the instrumentals in the ending song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 No, the songs are all written by the same guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 NPH is good as Olaf, but Carrey had this madness in his eyes that could either be charming or deadly: Not Mr. Big and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, RPurton said: NPH is good as Olaf, but Carrey had this madness in his eyes that could either be charming or deadly: Agreed, except for the first part. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Netflix renews A Series Of Unfortunate Events for a second season No surprise there; I assumed it already had been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Not surprising at all. More surprising is why there isn't a soundtrack out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Probably because its not very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I thought there was enough stuff in there to at least do a digital release. You've also got the main theme, 'It's the Count', and 'Not How the Story Goes'. Given some of the obscure TV music that gets released these days, this is a clear candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It's possibly they'll time a score release around when Season 2 is about to premiere, and/or combine season 1 and 2 together into a single release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Essentially, using it as a marketing tool, rather than a chance to make the music available. I guess there's no BD release to 'celebrate' either. (as in, no one will watch it on physical media) Given that virtually everything JNH does gets released (and Bacon had that obscure climbing score released), it would surprise me if we didn't see anything for Snicket. (Yes, I know soundtracks are basically marketing tools. Doesn't make it ok.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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