Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I'm not going to see the film because it will be shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'm not going to see the film because it will be shite. I reckon there’s a lot of people won’t watch this film because it’ll be shite. Even the two crap sequels aside the rest of the sibling’s output hasn’t exactly been.. good. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Anyone here saw Jupiter Ascending? I thought it was pure shite, but with a fine Gia score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,365 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Bilbo said: I reckon there’s a lot of people won’t watch this film because it’ll be shite. Even the two crap sequels aside the rest of the sibling’s output hasn’t exactly been.. good. I liked the sequels. Before the second movie came out I read an Interview with the Wachowskis where they explained that as a logical consequence the sequels are going to be more a superhero story instead of a science fiction story like the first film. So, I knew what to expect. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Anyone here saw Jupiter Ascending? I thought it was pure shite, but with a fine Gia score. https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24637-what-is-the-last-film-you-watched-newer-films/page/40/&tab=comments#comment-1099203 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: Anyone here saw Jupiter Ascending? I thought it was pure shite, but with a fine Gia score. Yes. I wouldn't go so far as to call it 'pure shite', but it could have used with some restraint, yes. Then again, the Wachowskis were never about restraint. The Giacchnio score, however, was dreadful through and through. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Really? I thought Gia's score was the best thing about it. It's not my favorite score from him, but it worked fine in the movie and is a fun (although pretty long) album to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Well, you know me and Giacchino. I hate pretty much everything he's ever done. Btw, I tried to rewatch JUPITER ASCENDING on Netflix just a couple of weeks ago, and I had to turn off after about 20 minutes. It's definitely a film you have to be 'mentally prepared' for. Same with CLOUD ATLAS, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On the topic of the music not being key to a movie’s success I have to really wonder how the Prequel Trilogy would’ve been considered had the scores for all three been rather sub-par. I think we can all agree that when the rest of the movie fails at conveying certain emotion and drama, the music is doing double time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I really don't think how good or bad a score is impacts how well a film is received in almost every instance. it really only matters to people on message boards like this one in almost every case Chen G. and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jay said: I really don't think how good or bad a score is impacts how well a film is received in almost every instance. it really only matters to people on message boards like this one in almost every case I mean if the score is doing a poor job (quality of the music notwithstanding), then people tend to notice. For instance, Desplat's Monuments' Men is some very fine music on its own, but does not work in context at all. And it actually heightens many of the film's tonal and pacing issues. And you could argue that it played a part in that film's maligned critical reception, among its other flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Film music is also a huge part of the film’s longevity and cultural impact. If the Imperial March wasn’t so resonant with the world I doubt we would still be seeing it today in completely separate contexts to the franchise. It’s practically taken on a life of its own, but people still recognise it as Star Wars music. To speak to games, I can also attest that one of the things most praised by the general audience in the Halo series is the music. To the point that it’s become one of the main selling points, with the new game marketing itself by saying they’re going back to the roots of the original Halo soundscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 To be honest, I liked Cloud Atlas way more than Jupiter Ascending. It doesn't deserve all the hate it got. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Cloud Atlas is hated? I know CC hates it on his site but wasn't it well received by critics overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I personally love Cloud Atlas but I can see why it isn't for everyone. It's also not a perfect film, but few are, eh? I also don't get the hate it got. There's far worse movies that have a ton of fans, so I am saddened Cloud Atlas never gained a big following after all these years. As I noted earlier, it's score is amazing, if only for the final tracks and the "Sextet" itself. It's music that definitely transcends the film. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I'll have to watch the original Matrix soon just to piss off all the nuts here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I think the strangest things about the Wachowskis' career is that they made not one, not two, but three movies where humans get liquified and drank by others. The Matrix, Cloud Atlas, and Jupiter Ascending. Like, how does that happen? Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 They're trying to tell us something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Or they ran out of ideas and started recycling them a while back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: They're trying to tell us something. Armie Hammer collaboration on the way? Edmilson and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Sorry, didn't get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jim Ware said: Armie Hammer collaboration on the way? Oh man, I'd been hearing references to something he did for a bit now, and finally just looked it up. Wow! Will this guy ever work again? Too bad Death on the Nile didn't come out when originally intended... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Did he drink a liquified human being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Technically.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 The Wachowskis mostly liquify their humans before they eat them. Mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I just googled it, but couldn't see whether it was "just" fantasies or if he actually had eaten body parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I guess we'll never know. When you thought Hollyweird couldn't get any weirder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Jay said: I think the strangest things about the Wachowskis' career is that they made not one, not two, but three movies where humans get liquified and drank by others. The Matrix, Cloud Atlas, and Jupiter Ascending. Like, how does that happen? Lotta mileage to get out of that! Pretty fun idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 If John Williams needed liquified humans for nourishment, I would be the first to volunteer. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Will the next one be The Matrix: Insurrection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Followed by The Matrix: Nemesis where Tom Hardy will play Neo's clone Edmilson and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Jay said: Oh man, I'd been hearing references to something he did for a bit now, and finally just looked it up. Wow! Will this guy ever work again? Too bad Death on the Nile didn't come out when originally intended... I still can’t believe Branagh‘s Murder on the Orient Express got a sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I can't believe the Matrix resurrected, I didn't even know she died! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bilbo said: I still can’t believe Branagh‘s Murder on the Orient Express got a sequel. It made US$ 350 millions worldwide in a US$ 100 mil budget, and that while competing against The Last Jedi. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 20 hours ago, Jay said: I think the strangest things about the Wachowskis' career is that they made not one, not two, but three movies where humans get liquified and drank by others. The Matrix, Cloud Atlas, and Jupiter Ascending. Like, how does that happen? It isn't necessarily just a random idea that they've plotted into their movies, it's more like an auteur trademark. The Wachowskis are well-versed in a myriad of philosophy, and often try to stage those ideas in their films - sometimes with great success (as in THE MATRIX movies), other times not so much (like JUPITER ASCENDING). They are particularly enamoured with Baudrillard and his landmark book Simulacra and Simulation. And it doesn't only have to do with the blurred lines between reality and simulation, it also has to do with basic human epistemology and with how we view the schism between body and mind. By "consuming" another humanbeing, you can take on its properties. This is an old idea that has been explored in many other films and works of art throughout the years - everything from THE BODY SNATCHERS to SOYLENT GREEN to what-have-you. Or the DRACULA myth, for that matter. By reducing humans to liquid form, to "fuel", you also comment on the Godlessness of the world. Perfect for any misanthropic, postapocalyptic setting. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Edmilson said: It made US$ 350 millions worldwide in a US$ 100 mil budget, and that while competing against The Last Jedi. They’re both boring films! I was so disappointed by Orient Express. But it just felt long and tensionless. Should have been so much better. Doyle’s score is great though. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, Bilbo said: Doyle’s score is great though. That's a bit of a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Mixed feelings about Branagh's Orient Express. I'm a big fan of Branagh, and the source material, so I had high hopes for this. But as @Bilbo suggested, I found the whole affair to be somewhat tedious, more concerned with its star power and cinematography (which was admitedly impressive) than presenting a tight, suspenseful mystery. And while I'm normally a big fan of sweeping vistas and wide-open photography, I don't think that's what was called for this in this story. The whole thing felt a little too big, undoubtably an attempt by Branagh to appeal to a wider audience (and let's face it, he did), but to me it just didn't work. The result, to quote Mel Gibson, was often boring as a dog's ass. David Suchet will always be Poirot to me. The way he inhabited that character is amazing. One of the best actors of that generation. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 At least the mustache was impressive. Did it have its own theme? Haven't seen the film. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's a bit of a stretch. What's your problem with Patty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Great is a strong word that I don't throw around often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 ...except that you just did. Q.E.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 20 hours ago, Jay said: Too bad Death on the Nile didn't come out when originally intended... LOL, reminds me of the situation Disney and Spielberg now face with West Side Story, though I bet they're hoping people have forgotten about that by December. Just another reason studios really shouldn't sit on big movies for years on end. Edmilson and Jay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,365 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Thor said: It isn't necessarily just a random idea that they've plotted into their movies, it's more like an auteur trademark. The Wachowskis are well-versed in a myriad of philosophy, and often try to stage those ideas in their films - sometimes with great success (as in THE MATRIX movies), other times not so much (like JUPITER ASCENDING). They are particularly enamoured with Baudrillard and his landmark book Simulacra and Simulation. And it doesn't only have to do with the blurred lines between reality and simulation, it also has to do with basic human epistemology and with how we view the schism between body and mind. By "consuming" another humanbeing, you can take on its properties. This is an old idea that has been explored in many other films and works of art throughout the years - everything from THE BODY SNATCHERS to SOYLENT GREEN to what-have-you. Or the DRACULA myth, for that matter. By reducing humans to liquid form, to "fuel", you also comment on the Godlessness of the world. Perfect for any misanthropic, postapocalyptic setting. Or "Under the Skin". My recent favourite on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 31 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Or "Under the Skin". My recent favourite on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Anyone else think the Wachowskis want to drink a guy? Bilbo, crumbs and Jurassic Shark 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said: Or "Under the Skin". My recent favourite on the subject. Absolutely. Great film, and perfectly in line with this. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Horrible movie. Nick1Ø66 and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 It had some truly arresting sequences, visually, but yeah that's all it had Jurassic Shark, Nick1Ø66 and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 No, it's a FANTASTIC movie. My no. 5 that year. GerateWohl and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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