Popular Post Amer 2,104 Posted May 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2017 There is a lot of discussion going on the his new release (at FSM board) from Dutton-Vocalion label about a new and complete recording of Ralph Vaughn Williams: Scott of the Antarctic score performed by the Royal Scottish National Orchestra and conducted by Martin Yates. The cd is widely availble from UK and Amazon.com and also SAE. I'am also happy to learn that the cd is in SACD format. So quite excited about this new adventure score which as previously available was a suite on the Chandos compilation album. https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CDLX7340 Anyone got this yet? Pieter Boelen, crocodile, Incanus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Nice, but it's a shame that its not either a DVD-A, or a Blu. azahid, what do you think of SYMPHONIA ANTARCTICA? Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Thanks for the heads-up azahid! This is going to my priority CD shopping list. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,104 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Richard said: Nice, but it's a shame that its not either a DVD-A, or a Blu. azahid, what do you think of SYMPHONIA ANTARCTICA? Its on order so i have to wait for it. I think it just came out. I haven't heard the 'Symphony' as yet so I'll be digging into this for the first time. Then there is the Rumon Gamba conducted suite recorded on the Chandos label album from UK featuring SCOTT and other suites from Vaughn Williams films. I would always prefer a Blu ray but SACD should be fine as its both 5.1 multi-channel and Stereo channel disc set here. Speaking of DVD-A, I recently also ordered THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD (Korngold) W.Stromberg Re-recording! So I'am looking forward to that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Unfortunately, SACD will only play in 5.1 on SACD players. That's the drawback of SACD. I'll watch out for the ROBIN HOOD DVD-A. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,104 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Richard said: Unfortunately, SACD will only play in 5.1 on SACD players. That's the drawback of SACD. I'll watch out for the ROBIN HOOD DVD-A. Thankfully this one is a Hybrid cd so it will play on both CD and SACD players. Order it away. Mine just shipped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,220 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 16 hours ago, Richard said: ...what do you think of SYMPHONIA ANTARCTICA? Getting the climax of the third movement right is paramount in the Sinfonia antartica. I've heard a lot of performances in which it underwhelms, making the whole symphony something of a damp squib. When it's done well, the listener has to be defrosted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Ordered and received recently and I must say that this is definitely an amazing representation of an amazing score (one of my favourites) by an amazing composer (also one of my favourites). The playing and recording are both outstanding and a huge thanks should go to conductor Martin Yates for his indispensable role in making this project happen (he actually transcribed and edited all sheet music parts from RWV's original manuscripts). I've always been a huge fan of Sinfonia antartica and now, it's great fun listening for all the cues in the symphony and marking them in my copy of the full score! Score and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Must listen to it again. Always loved the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 It's cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Well it's just like Captain Scott wrote in his diary on March 29th, 1912 ... Every day we have been ready to start for our depôt 11 miles away, but outside the door of the tent it remains as scene of whirling drift. I do not think we can hope for any better things now. We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker, of course, and the end cannot be far. It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more -- R. Scott Last Entry For God's sake look after our people Sir Hilary Bray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Being a fan of the film and reader of Scott and his expedition, I'll have a look into getting this. Music perfectly encapsulated the Antarctic wilderness. "Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood, endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the tale, but surely, surely, a great rich country like ours will see that those who are dependent on us are properly provided for." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Some might also enjoy Sir Peter Maxwell Davies Symphony No. 8 http://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/occasions/best-winter-music/antarctic-symphony which is a bit of a sequel. Maglorfin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 True! I remember actually hearing it live on a concert in Slovenia probably some 10 years ago and liking it (well OK, not as much as RVW's Antartica) but I've never listened to it since the so I'll need to revisit it. Strangely and unfortunately, this symphony is not available on CD (but if anybody can find it, do let me know!). For the longest time, it also wasn't available on YouTube but now it's finally there for everybody to enjoy. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 A sequel to the story of captain Scott?! You do know what happened, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Actually, Maxwell Davies' 8th symphony was commissioned by the British Antarctic Survey and intended to commemorate the 50th anniversary of RWV's score for the film and the 7th symphony which he later fashioned out of that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Omen II 1,235 Posted November 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2017 I got this CD yesterday and cannot recommend it highly enough. I count this as one of the best film scores ever written and this new recording elevates my opinion of it even further. Despite the fact that a lot of the cues are quite short, the album works really well as a cohesive listening experience from start to finish, including many cues reconstructed from Vaughan Williams' original manuscripts and recorded for the first time. The music is unmistakable Vaughan Williams but several cues have always sounded quite Herrmannesque to my ears. There is a wonderful clarity in the recording that improves on the sound of the excellent Chandos suite from a few years ago. If any film music fans are unfamiliar with this score and have avoided it because they think the music of this 1948 film might sound old-fashioned, they couldn't be more wrong and I would urge them to take a listen to this magnificent score. I would love to hear this as a live to projection concert with the film! karelm, Amer, Pieter Boelen and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I heartly concur! A magnificent release of a classic score. I was positively surprised that the music has such flow considering that it is built from often very short cues but there is a wonderful stylistic cohesion in the programme throughout only broken perhaps by the short source music sequences. The score feels such a timelessly symphonic work and has both ghostly and inexorably doom-laden majesty that is lightened by small livelier episodes like the cue Penguins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 On 7/23/2017 at 3:07 PM, Maglorfin said: Ordered and received recently and I must say that this is definitely an amazing representation of an amazing score (one of my favourites) by an amazing composer (also one of my favourites). The playing and recording are both outstanding and a huge thanks should go to conductor Martin Yates for his indispensable role in making this project happen (he actually transcribed and edited all sheet music parts from RWV's original manuscripts). I've always been a huge fan of Sinfonia antartica and now, it's great fun listening for all the cues in the symphony and marking them in my copy of the full score! I'm bumping this thread to say that: first, I also highly recommend the recording of the complete score, and second, Oxford University Press has published the sheet music of the full movie score as edited by Martin Yates at the very reasonable price of £24.95. Those who are interested in sheet music for film scores can appreciate that it's kind of extraordinary to have a publication of this kind for sale. And it's interesting to compare it to Sinfonia Antartica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I managed to buy this towards the end of last year. It's rather splendid, and, although I have the ability to listen to it in 5.1, it really doesn't need it, to be enjoyed. It's a worthy addition to any soundtrack collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Oddly, I'm listening to this album at this very moment. It is a delicious disc and score. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maglorfin 196 Posted November 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 9:20 PM, Score said: Oxford University Press has published the sheet music of the full movie score as edited by Martin Yates at the very reasonable price of £24.95. Those who are interested in sheet music for film scores can appreciate that it's kind of extraordinary to have a publication of this kind for sale. And it's interesting to compare it to Sinfonia Antartica! Wow, and I mean WOW! I'm SO ordering this! Thanks so much for mentioning it, heaven only knows when and how I would otherwise have found out about it. If anybody else would be interested, the study score can be found (and ordered) here. Even some sample pages/cues can be previewed. Yavar Moradi, Score and karelm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Ordered today! Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 11/5/2018 at 6:09 PM, Maglorfin said: Ordered today! Well done! You will enjoy it. It's a great companion to the CD (also conducted by Yates). I hope at some point somebody will release similar complete editions for other old classics, such as Prokofiev' Alexander Nevsky, Korngold's Adventures of Robin Hood... I mean, this release is the proof that it should not be so difficult!! Maglorfin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Score said: Well done! You will enjoy it. It's a great companion to the CD (also conducted by Yates). I hope at some point somebody will release similar complete editions for other old classics, such as Prokofiev' Alexander Nevsky, Korngold's Adventures of Robin Hood... I mean, this release is the proof that it should not be so difficult!! Here is Prokofiev's complete Nevsky. http://www.musicsalesclassical.com/composer/work/35001 I understand Korngold is much more complicated because film music back then wasn't preserved. It was often tossed so would have to be reconstructed by extant copies. Miklos Rosza's Ben Hur for example was reconstructed. Only the suite which was published is preserved, the rest was remade. Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 7 hours ago, karelm said: Here is Prokofiev's complete Nevsky. http://www.musicsalesclassical.com/composer/work/35001 I understand Korngold is much more complicated because film music back then wasn't preserved. It was often tossed so would have to be reconstructed by extant copies. Miklos Rosza's Ben Hur for example was reconstructed. Only the suite which was published is preserved, the rest was remade. I knew about Prokofiev's Nevsky, I have the CD and if you go here you can even look at the score online (Ansichtspartitur, in the right column): https://www.sikorski.de/475/de/0/a/0/orchesterwerke/1033686_alexander_newski_filmmusik.html However, I would like to see a full sheet music release that can be bought as a normal book, just like what happened to Scott of the Antarctic. The same for the other scores that I've mentioned (and well, basically for any good film score, old or recent). Another composer whose scores could be released like that is Bernard Herrmann: almost everything has been preserved. And due to the various rerecordings, I bet a reasonable amount of this material has already been digitized. In the case of Korngold's Adventures of Robin Hood, the full manuscript score exists, but some pieces are either missing or incomplete, because it was preserved badly. The missing material was reconstructed for the complete recording, based on several different sources (including the sketches). As far as I am concerned, it would make a very good sheet music release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 07/11/2017 at 10:55 PM, Omen II said: I would love to hear this as a live to projection concert with the film! I am just going outside* and may be some time**. Scott of the Antarctic live in concert with the BBC Symphony Orchestra and Chorus (*) to the Barbican Centre, Silk Street, London, EC2Y 8DS (**) a couple of hours plus travel time from work to the venue, thence from the venue to my place of residence crocodile and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,500 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Perhaps my favourite film score of 1948. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I cannot hear lot of influence of this score on some of Goldsmith's Star Trek music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 The Chandos is great. Despite comments otherwise, the complete score doesn't sound like a great listen Does the suite include music not used in the film? The RVW suite for 49th PARALLEL includes several minutes of exquisite score not used in the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Are there any JWfaners that prefer the SYMPHONIA ANTARCTICA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, Naïve Old Fart said: Are there any JWfaners that prefer the SYMPHONIA ANTARCTICA? I like both equally. Karol Naïve Old Fart and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Are there any JWfaners that prefer the SYMPHONIA ANTARCTICA? I do. But this is still a great companion piece Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Agreed, @Romão. They are two sides of the same coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 This is the one I have: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I just listened to it, because, it has been a while. But say, this is heavy sh!t. I getting to old for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Omen II 1,235 Posted March 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2022 I went to the live to picture presentation of this at the Barbican yesterday evening. It was something of a dream come true to hear this, one of my favourite film scores, performed live to the film - something I never thought would happen with a British film of this vintage. Before the film started, the BBC Symphony Orchestra under Martyn Brabbins played a kind of overture / suite of music from the film which included some sections of music not heard in the film, which was a great way to kick things off. The soprano soloist was none other than Elizabeth Watts, one of the finest singers in the country, whose voice was just about perfect for this. She was well supported by the ladies of the BBC Symphony Chorus, 32 choral singers in total. I realised how closely the women's voices matched the howling Antarctic wind in several scenes, such that it was sometimes difficult to discern what was the choir and what was the wind. Wonderful! I had seen the film before but it was quite a long time ago. It's actually a really good film - there were many poignant moments during which you could feel the tension in the hall, for example the scene where Scott's expedition party has to shoot the ponies one by one. It happens off screen while the camera focuses on each of the next horses in turn as their muzzles are cradled one last time by their human companions. I also noticed almost all the orchestra members who could see the screen watching transfixed as Scott (John Mills) delivers his final few words in the tent, knowing that he and his companions would not make it. Vaughan Williams's magnificent score was played perfectly and it did not matter that it occasionally drowned out the dialogue on screen. If you are interested, you can read the programme notes here. Yavar Moradi, karelm, Romão and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,500 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Not a fan of LtP screenings, but would be awesome to hear this score live. I think, ultimately, it's my favourite score of 1948. Omen II 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I would have had you down as more of an Amundsen man than a Scott man, @Thor! 🇳🇴🇬🇧 bruce marshall and Thor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Ah, that looks awesome. I enjoy this score very much. Karol Omen II 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Thor said: Not a fan of LtP screenings, but would be awesome to hear this score live. I think, ultimately, it's my favourite score of 1948. What are the contenders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,500 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, publicist said: What are the contenders? THE BICYCLE THIEVES, THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE, THE RED SHOES, FORCE OF EVIL.... bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, Thor said: THE BICYCLE THIEVES, THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE, THE RED SHOES, FORCE OF EVIL.... TREASURE is awful! Mickey Mouse scoring at its worst. SCOTT is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,500 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 TREASURE is OK. I don't like Steiner, but this is one of the few I can tolerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Seems to me the Brits were putting out more substantial scores. RED SHOES is also a fine effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Thor said: THE BICYCLE THIEVES, THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE, THE RED SHOES, FORCE OF EVIL.... Good to see two european titles. Joan of Arc by Friedhofer, certainly (and a much better candidate for a re-recording than painstakingly re-creating short Goldsmith oldies which are not that interesting to begin with, but hey, i still put my $ in the Kickstarter, so...). bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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