Smeltington 1,436 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Maybe we'll get the soundtrack in January, around the time of the "wide release" of the film? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I think it will still come out in December but just hasn't been announced yet. What I am wondering is, will the OST come out on Sony like most JW OSTs have for the past 20 years regardless of the film studio? BFG and TFA were of course on Disney Records. The Book Thief was a Fox film, with a Sony OST, so will this be a Sony OST too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 On 11/11/2017 at 3:46 PM, Sandor said: Isn’t it a bit odd that a soundtrack hasn’t been announced or isn’t avalaible for preorder just a little over a month before the film’s release...? It takes time to print all the covers again, to accommodate for Williams replacement by Junkie XL. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I just looked and apparently the BoS soundtrack (although not Williams) wasn't announced until a little over two weeks before the film's release. If this one follows that schedule we can expect an announcement around the end of this month or beginning of December. So looks like we don't have to worry ... yet. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,373 Posted November 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2017 Release date set to January 12! And it's coming out on Sony https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077HP1DVD/ Will, John and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smeltington 1,436 Posted November 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2017 Preordered!!!!!!!!! Come through with that release date delivery Amazon. It'll be good to spend a month with TLJ before getting The Post. And now there's at least one John Williams score in 2018 Will, BuzzLightyear, crumbs and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Interesting, so they went with the "wide" release date instead of the limited. Opposite of what they did with Munich (where the score released alongside the limited date in December). Either way, preordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Preordered too! BTW, if the film’s limited release is in 2017 and its wide release is in 2018, does that make it a 2018 film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, Scintillating_CA said: Preordered too! BTW, if the film’s limited release is in 2017 and its wide release is in 2018, does that make it a 2018 film? Nope. They're doing the limited release at the end of December specifically so it can be considered a 2017 film for awards. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Nope. They're doing the limited release at the end of December specifically so it can be considered a 2017 film for awards. Ah, gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 If you can pay to see it in a public movie theater in 2017, its a 2017 film. With any luck, it'll be in Boston that first week, and not just Los Angeles and New York! IIRC, I was the first JWFanner to see Lincoln, cause it did play in Boston right away, technically Cambridge, in their arthouse theater there. I went with Marcy, it was fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I think I was the first JWFanner to see Tintin. Unusually, it opened in UK / Ireland quite a bit before the US. I caught an early morning screening before going directly from the cinema to the airport for my trip to New York to see JW at the Lincoln Center. Spent the flight over listening to Tintin's OST. The timing worked out very well. I remember being able to report that the missing track Picking Pockets wasn't the holy grail people thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Aw shucks... In some ways this is good, as it will allow me to focus more on TLJ without feeling like I'm missing anything - but it also means that if the film runs where I am in late December (which I hope is the case!) I will have to wait for several agonizing weeks to hear the score again. Then again, maybe I should just wait to see it until January anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Damien F said: I remember being able to report that the missing track Picking Pockets wasn't the holy grail people thought it would be. It is, actually. Will and Once 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Good release date. This way there should at least be a little bit of time for TLJ to settle. 56 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: It is, actually. It's a great little source track. I prefer it to the source tracks that made the album ("The Milanese Nightingdale" and the opera song) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 That's weird! So the only way to hear the score for 3 weeks will be seeing the film itself. Very crafty by Spielberg, clearly this was all by design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Well most of us won’t be able to see it for those three weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Will award promos leak before that? I think Williams is good for the academy awards but it will hurt his chances with the earlier awards like Golden Globes and Baftas if there is absolutely no music released publicly before January. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 He'll probably get the nomination for TLJ anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Double nom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I predict a shutout! No noms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The music branch choose the nominees, thank fuck. He'll be nominated for one minimum. It depends how strongly they feel about the other candidates as to whether they reward him with two. Heck, if both scores are incredible they might have no choice but to reward him twice. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,633 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I have wondered this since his double nomination for Memoirs and the other (CMIYC?). Anyway, can he turn down one of the nominations, or once nominated, you just have to roll with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Munich was the other one that year. Nah, I don't think anybody has or could reject a nomination for themselves....a few people have turned down Oscars before in which case I believe the trophy just goes to the Academy's archives, but they wouldn't give it to somebody else. The Academy has rescinded nominations themselves a couple times (like Bruce Broughton a couple years ago) but in that case it just went from 5 nominees to 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,633 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 As yes, Munich. I am convinced he would have won for Memoirs if not for that. Why did Broughton get rescinded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 It had something to do with him being like the former president of the music branch and so he was able to send his song directly to a bunch of Academy members' e-mails asking them to consider nominating it. Didn't really seem like a big deal but I guess they thought it set a weird precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 22 minutes ago, Tom said: As yes, Memoirs. I am convinced he would have won for Munich if not for that. Why did Broughton get rescinded? fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 45 minutes ago, Tom said: As yes, Munich. I am convinced he would have won for Memoirs if not for that. I think Williams has resigned to never winning another Oscar (maybe barring Episode IX), so he'd just happily take the double nomination at this point. That's even more celebratory, given the consistent quality of his writing despite his age. I think Memoirs was the closest he's come since Schindler's List, but if he couldn't even win for Lincoln without the double nom...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: fixed Williams was actually the favorite going into the evening and lost to Santolalla in an upset. For memoirs. There are 3 big televised awards before the Oscars - bfca, globes and baftas and Williams won all 3 for memoirs. 9 hours ago, crumbs said: I think Williams has resigned to never winning another Oscar (maybe barring Episode IX), so he'd just happily take the double nomination at this point. That's even more celebratory, given the consistent quality of his writing despite his age. I think Memoirs was the closest he's come since Schindler's List, but if he couldn't even win for Lincoln without the double nom...? Lincoln's score in the film is very muted and sparse. So it never had a chance. Typically scores which pop in the film have a chance to win. (That's why Williams should have beat Shore with Harry Potter 1). Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 HP1 and AI, probably two of the best scores Williams has ever written... and they just had to coincide with Shore's magnum opus. I can't begrudge him for that. Still, what are the bloody odds? Probably the same as Brokeback Mountain being the sympathy vote flavour of the month in 2006. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I love how the discussion is all about which JW score will be nominated, not whether he will be nominated at all. For political reasons, for two scores that no one has heard yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,633 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: I love how the discussion is all about which JW score will be nominated, not whether he will be nominated at all. For political reasons, for two scores that no one has heard yet. Not really that complicated. If Michael Jordan in his prime plays one on one with a given person, you assume Jordan is likely to win. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 But this isn't as simple as Michael Jordan playing basketball. It's a composer's particular inspiration for two films of unknown quality. Let's at least hear what he's come with before giving him the oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post p0llux 392 Posted November 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 11/18/2017 at 1:48 PM, Richard Penna said: But this isn't as simple as Michael Jordan playing basketball. John Williams = Michael Jordan Jerry Goldsmith = Larry Bird Ennio Morricone = Magic Johnson Michael Giacchino = Kobe Bryant Danny Elfman = Tracy MacGrady Thomas Newman = Dirk Nowitzki Alan Silvestri = Tim Duncan Howard Shore = Kevin Garnett James Horner = Allen Iverson Alan Menken = Dwyane Wade Hans Zimmer = Lebron James Alexandre Desplat = Kevin Durant Justin Hurwitz = James Harden Will, David Story and Obi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 sports humor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 48 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: sports humor It's funny... If you get it... I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,633 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 As a Cavs fan, I have I heard a lot of insults directed toward Lebron, but none so brutal. TheUlyssesian and Will 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 392 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Tom said: As a Cavs fan, I have I heard a lot of insults directed toward Lebron, but none so brutal. A lot of Hans Zimmer's music is very in your face and loud. It's like a freight train coming at you. This is comparable to Lebron's style of play. He relies heavily on athleticism and strength. His post moves can be graceful at times, but not as graceful as MJ or Kobe's post moves and footwork. Very similar to Zimmer's music. Sometimes he can write very elegant passages for strings, but he's just not on par with JW's string writing. That's how I see it. I'm not trying to insult anyone Lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 LeBron has 15x more heart than hansu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Wasn't 1993 normally a double nomination, but nobody wanted JP to win over SL, so they didn't nominate JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 30 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Wasn't 1993 normally a double nomination, but nobody wanted JP to win over SL, so they didn't nominate JP? SL would have won come what may, so JP could (and should) have been nominated. Best Picture nominees get an automatic advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I don't really have much knowledge about the make up of the music branch of the Academy that nominates composers. Obviously we know that composers who are nominated are usually invited, but otherwise I'm not sure. Does a more behind-the-scenes person like, say, Conrad Pope get invited into that branch? It can't be very many people because the Academy isn't very big in the first place and we know that the Actors branch is by far the biggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I looked at the latest batch of Academy invites and there are a couple music editors in there (Nancy Allen and Jordan Corngold, looked them up based on not recognizing their names and knowing they obviously weren't composers for those films). So I assume there are orchestrators and other personnel in the branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 17/11/2017 at 5:37 PM, Chewy said: Release date set to January 12! And it's coming out on Sony https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077HP1DVD/ Sweet. Just in time for my birthday. Karol Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I don't really have much knowledge about the make up of the music branch of the Academy that nominates composers. Obviously we know that composers who are nominated are usually invited, but otherwise I'm not sure. Does a more behind-the-scenes person like, say, Conrad Pope get invited into that branch? It can't be very many people because the Academy isn't very big in the first place and we know that the Actors branch is by far the biggest. I last read that there are between 300 to 400 people in the music branch. What worries me is that a lot of these pop artists of late are getting invited for their song work and they might be insufficiently qualified to judge orchestral scores. Just a personal opinion though. I am pretty sure many will disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 First and only mention of the score I can find, after the film's embargoed screening today. Sigh. Quote The occasionally canny dialogue and obvious directorial decisions (looking at you, Boring John Williams Score) notwithstanding, this is a good, lean picture about process, and the sometimes intersections, sometimes conflicts between loyalty, responsibility, and accountability—both in work, and in life. If not every performance is of equal quality (while he certainly isn’t terrible, Tom Hanks does strike me as trying terribly hard), it is a rare a delight these days to see Meryl Streep contribute to—color—a film, rather have to hold the thing together with her bare hands. Her performance and Bruce Greenwood’s are favorites. https://letterboxd.com/film/the-post-2017/ Well, film and score seem as predicted. Can't imagine many people coming out of other politically charged films like JFK or Nixon and thinking the score was "boring." Understandable Spielberg wanted to avoid melodramatic scoring but it sounds like unobtrusive wallpaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 7 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: What worries me is that a lot of these pop artists of late are getting invited for their song work and they might be insufficiently qualified to judge orchestral scores. Just a personal opinion though. I am pretty sure many will disagree. Everyone is qualified to judge how successful/effective a score is (being orchestral is not a quality in itself and also not a necessary tool). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 So the score out 3 weeks after the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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