Tom 4,639 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Okay, can someone identify the music that begins at the 30 second mark? Otherwise, I am going to think it is from VIII. Will and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2017 And so the pre-release of the score madness begins... DarthDementous, Ricard, A. A. Ron and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 The middle part is definitely a variation of the Resistance March (and a damn good one), but I cannot say is it 100% Williams. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I like it...but now is when I avoid saying much of anything for fear of looking stupid later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Well, either way the middle two "action" parts are excellent, whether Williams or not. The last minute and a half does not seem to be SW-based at all. (edit): I have listened a couple of times now, I am now almost certain the middle two pieces are genuine Williams--to many little Williamsisms to not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2017 Doesn't sound like a real orchestra. Holko, Will, justaguy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I haven't listened to the video yet or anything, but could it from from Gordy Haab's Battlefront 2 score? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I'm guessing it's from Battlefront. It sounds very good, but I don't think it's Williams, but rather a great imitator like Haab. @Not Mr. Big is right that some parts don't even sound like a real orchestra. So then, maybe it's not even from Battlefront, since that used the LSO. I mean, listen to the winds here (part of the Resistance march cue): Either JW used some really, really unusual (for him) colors in this score, or that's not him. I also highly doubt that JW himself would write a variation that, at least in parts, sounds like someone was trying to hue very closely to a MOTR temp track without quite copying it. That's the kind of stuff imitator composers do. JW would just clearly quote the theme! DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I agree with what everyone has said. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 I am not familiar with the Battlefront music at all (or any Star Tours music). I agree parts sound off, but I attributed that to the less than ideal sound quality of the video itself. I don't know, I am hearing some high horn hits ala TPM and underscore beats in the family of the Attack on Jakku. Whoever composed it, if not Williams, really knows how to channel those little Williams's touches. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted July 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2017 I'm absolutely certain this isn't Williams, but I'll be sure to edit this post later if I'm wrong. Ricard, crumbs, Not Mr. Big and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted July 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2017 Sounds like synth to me. Holko, Will, justaguy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2017 27 minutes ago, Tom said: Whoever composed it, if not Williams, really knows how to channel those little Williams's touches. Agreed. 15 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: I'm absolutely certain this isn't Williams, but I'll be sure to edit this post later if I'm wrong. Agreed. 10 minutes ago, Quintus said: Sounds like synth to me. Agreed. Cerebral Cortex, Not Mr. Big and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Those chromatic runs aren't very convincing, are they? And even if they were real, it's a bit too crude for Williams's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Okay, I just re-listen and no longer think it is Williams. However, that variation of the Resistance March is top-notch. It really brings the main melody line to life. The composer deserves more jobs. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I like the music but I won't guess too much why isn't this guy scoring movies like Rogue One. Sounds better than waht Giacchino did Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,260 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I don't believe the new music is Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Miguel Hath Spoken! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 It's not a real orchestra, I'm fairly certain they used EWQL samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 But where did the music come from?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2017 The rear speakers of our tormented minds. rpvee, Will, Ricard and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 It sounds like a mixture of the Imperial March and the March of the Resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 doubt it could be from the Last Jedi. as others have pointed it out this score is entirely synth, and since TLJ has been recorded with orchestra and John Williams adopts a pen and paper approach this music could be from anything. wouldn't even be surprised if this was from Star Wars Rebels Season 4 since parts sound similar to Kevin Kiner. however, there being a Resistance March variation makes me think its commercial music designed to imitate the sound of Star Wars without forgoing copyright. I'm also convinced I've heard that last part's theme before. I think that is definitely from Star Wars Rebels, possibly when Hera flies the prototype B-Wing. Holko and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 It's a very good mockup. I would say very low (about zero) chance it is JW so I think it is either extra Star Wars video game material like something from Gordy Habb or something commissioned just for this background Star Wars "experience" score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted July 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2017 Gordy doesn't write with synth either. He writes with pen and paper like Williams. Also I know Gordy's style, and that's definitely not it. Holko, DarthDementous and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Yeah no way that's from Battlefront. Holko and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Gordy doesn't write with synth either. He writes with pen and paper like Williams. Also I know Gordy's style, and that's definitely not it. Regardless of how a person writes, budget will determine if real people play it, or a computer does. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Definitely not Williams. Some of those harmonic changes are a bit too clumsy for Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 2 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Regardless of how a person writes, budget will determine if real people play it, or a computer does. Irrelevant in this case as all of Battlefront 2's music was performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. They don't use MIDI samples in Star Wars games anymore... they haven't in about a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I didn't say it was from a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaguy 68 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Irrelevant in this case as all of Battlefront 2's music was performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. They don't use MIDI samples in Star Wars games anymore... they haven't in about a decade. I remember Gordy mentioning in one of the interviews that he has "dedicated team of mock-up artists" that translate his writing into something game developers (EDIT: and, according to the interview, John Williams himself) can assess and approve for recording. But I highly doubt it's his music in the video, played with synths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I'm gonna go with not JW music. It sounds a bit too messy to be JW. It DOES sound a lot like what we get when other composers try to write like JW. And of course, in the unlikely event it turns out to be JW music, I will call it the single greatest contribution to Star Wars music since Rey's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Remember, KK: we thought the bit from The Jedi Steps that showed up in one of the TFA trailers wasn't by Williams! Tread carefully! I did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Ok, one can read that both ways. And it was almost the whole community... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 It's clearly synth, obviously wouldn't be Williams. So far as I know, he doesn't have synth mockups of his sketches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 hour ago, crumbs said: It's clearly synth, obviously wouldn't be Williams. So far as I know, he doesn't have synth mockups of his sketches. Maybe William Ross did those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 9 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Remember, KK: we thought the bit from The Jedi Steps that showed up in one of the TFA trailers wasn't by Williams! Tread carefully! I still don't believe it's Williams! It was Ross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 You guys didn't think that was JW? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 905 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Very odd way to debut new music. I didn't think it was Williams, and I did peg The Jedi Steps and Coruscant Chase music (despite the electric guitar^) as Williams before it was confirmed, so I'm always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, pete said: and I did peg The Jedi Steps and Coruscant Chase music (despite the electric guitar^) as Williams before it was confirmed, so I'm always right. What method was that released through? I've never heard of that track being leaked early before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 905 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I just recall it was floating around days before the soundtrack release and there was some debate as to whether it was legit or not. I'm sure there was discussion here at the time. I remember a comment on FSM along the lines of "Electric guitar? Yeah right. Of course it isn't new Star Wars music". Which was understandable^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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