crumbs 14,698 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I've tried some unreleased film cues and nothing seems to be coming up for me. Not the Return to the Village cue, film version of Lando's Closet, the jungle drums source music, the film ending of Train Heist, etc. The only track being recognised is the end credits, strangely enough. Maybe the new mix is confusing the algorithm? On a hunch, I also tried some unreleased sections of the SW prequels and sequels; nothing came up for those either Curiously, Shazam lists the end credits from The Last Jedi as "Album Finale" rather than simply "Finale," which I found curious. Why specify that Finale as being the "album" version, unless there's an alternative? And in the case of TLJ, we know there's both an early/alternate finale suite plus the film version (which is cobbled together mostly from film cues, rather than the discrete recordings JW made for the credits). It's probably nothing........ MattyO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,221 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Probably to differentiate between the thousands of different tracks out there called Finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 4,093 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 One of several terms that ought to be avoided in track names. It's never just the 'finale'... something will have happened that could be described instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,890 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I like the use of "finale" in track names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 247 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Barn Boy & Finale bollemanneke and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,890 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 See, it always works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,976 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 hours ago, crumbs said: Curiously, Shazam lists the end credits from The Last Jedi as "Album Finale" rather than simply "Finale," which I found curious. Why specify that Finale as being the "album" version, unless there's an alternative? And in the case of TLJ, we know there's both an early/alternate finale suite plus the film version (which is cobbled together mostly from film cues, rather than the discrete recordings JW made for the credits). The finale at the end credits of the film did not contain Yoda's Theme. That is only on the album. I like the original movie version better without Yoda. At The Force Awakens it is the other way around. The end credit version of the finale contained additionally the Scherzo for X-Wing that is not contained in the Finale on the album. Here I personally prefer the album version. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: The finale at the end credits of the film did not contain Yoda's Theme. That is only on the album. I like the original movie version better without Yoda. At The Force Awakens it is the other way around. The end credit version of the finale contained additionally the Scherzo for X-Wing that is not contained in the Finale on the album. Here I personally prefer the album version. Technically the "film version" is mostly just cobbled together from film cues, created editorially (probably without JW's input, like the extension to March of the Resistance in the film credits for TFA). The album version of Finale is JW's intended end credits suite for TLJ, with discrete recordings made for the credits (it's not a medley of film cues, ala Mischief Managed). The only film cue in the album credits is Holdo's Resolve, but the rest are different recordings (the concert suite, the Crait material, the Escape material, the Yoda material, the Here They Come material, and the Rey's Theme coda). Every major new theme and motif from TLJ is included in the album credits, which is neat. It probably just doesn't get as much love as the TFA credits because the arrangements are so similar to the film cues, unlike all the fun new arrangements of TFA's themes in Jedi Steps and Finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,159 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 It's possible the tags from Shazam are submitted from users' albums, hence why there might be an 'album version' with that particular track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,976 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 52 minutes ago, crumbs said: It probably just doesn't get as much love as the TFA credits because the arrangements are so similar to the film cues At a finale of a star wars movie I want to hear just the new themes from the particular movie. That is why I am dissapointed when the finale of revenge of the sith starts with Leia's theme or there is the Tie Fighter attack or Yoda's theme in the end credits of The Last Jedi. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,289 Posted November 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 hours ago, crumbs said: Every major new theme and motif from TLJ is included in the album credits, which is neat. It probably just doesn't get as much love as the TFA credits because the arrangements are so similar to the film cues, unlike all the fun new arrangements of TFA's themes in Jedi Steps and Finale. That last minute sure is fantastic, though. Love those soft major-key Rey chimes! I was disappointed that TROS regressed to the standard Star Wars suite / Return of the Jedi ending, after TFA and TLJ both wrapped up with beautiful, unique endings. Arpy, crumbs, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 247 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 So to bring it all back around, what did everyone think of the Solo film credits edit, and what does everyone hope for in the album edit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 600 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Film credits: not that great considering they are just a mash-up of other tracks. All other SW movies have dedicated credits pieces. What I want from the DE credits: original recordings! Will it be this? I don't know... I wonder why they didn't use whatever Powell came up with originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,289 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Anthony said: What I want from the DE credits: original recordings! Will it be this? I don't know... I wonder why they didn't use whatever Powell came up with originally. The sheet music has no end credits material, apart from the usual John Williams Star Wars end credits opening, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Anthony said: What I want from the DE credits: original recordings! Will it be this? I don't know... Existing cues from the OST/film are being recognised by Shazam in the Deluxe's end credits suite, so it seems it'll just be a medley of film cues (ala Mischief Managed) rather than new recordings, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 255 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, BrotherSound said: The sheet music leak has no end credits material, apart from the usual John Williams Star Wars end credits opening, unfortunately. Very interesting that the sheet music has leaked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,221 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, ricsim88 said: Very interesting that the sheet music has leaked... Only a tiny portion I believe. I wasn't able to get ahold of it before it was taken down, so I'm not positive how much there was exactly. 2 hours ago, crumbs said: Existing cues from the OST/film are being recognised by Shazam in the Deluxe's end credits suite, so it seems it'll just be a medley of film cues (ala Mischief Managed) rather than new recordings, unfortunately. If that's the case then I find it bizarre that JP has been hyping up this cue for no reason. He seems to mention it at least once every time he posts an update, whether in the main post or in the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: If that's the case then I find it bizarre that JP has been hyping up this cue for no reason. He seems to mention it at least once every time he posts an update, whether in the main post or in the comments. He must have been really unhappy with the film credits But really, it's commonplace, especially in SW. I don't think any of JW's credits suites have remained totally intact since TPM (not even sure that one isn't edited). It still baffles me how AOTC ditched that seriously awesome Imperial March/Anakin's Theme coda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,221 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, crumbs said: He must have been really unhappy with the film credits But really, it's commonplace, especially in SW. I don't think any of JW's credits suites have remained totally intact since TPM (not even sure that one isn't edited). It still baffles me how AOTC ditched that seriously awesome Imperial March/Anakin's Theme coda. Well, he seems to have toyed with several versions, with that alternate. Unused credits, the gelb versions etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, crumbs said: He must have been really unhappy with the film credits But really, it's commonplace, especially in SW. I don't think any of JW's credits suites have remained totally intact since TPM (not even sure that one isn't edited). It still baffles me how AOTC ditched that seriously awesome Imperial March/Anakin's Theme coda. TPM end credits are edited too. 1 hour ago, Spider-Fal said: Well, he seems to have toyed with several versions, with that alternate. Unused credits, the gelb versions etc. What is the "gelb version"? Always wanted to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,289 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Only a tiny portion I believe. I wasn't able to get ahold of it before it was taken down, so I'm not positive how much there was exactly. Seems complete, or very close to it: Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,221 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 day 16 hours! TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,173 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 If my math is correct it will be up for sale in AU/NZ iTunes 17 hours, 10 minutes from the time of this post. Maybe I am off by 1 hr in either direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,090 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jay said: If my math is correct it will be up for sale in AU/NZ iTunes 17 hours, 10 minutes from the time of this post. Maybe I am off by 1 hr in either direction Or maybe it releases at one set time everywhere, the one Powell's counting back to, like Mando episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,173 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Ah, true. I guess Disney Records has this precedent of doing simultaneous global releases that no other label seems to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 600 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I hope it's available at 00:01 on Friday in each locale. I have the day off to listen to it. (I had tons of holiday left to take...so why not.) Which tracks are you guys most excited to hear? For me, it's; Walk To Dryden's Family Stories Maul's Call / Parting Ways Super Extra Deluxe End Credits Suite (but preparing to be disappointed by this based off all the Shazam chat) TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,890 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Let's hope this expansion proves that the score is as good as Rogue One's. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 8,708 Posted November 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2020 Actually, I was listening to a bootleg Rogue One this last weekend. I had forgot how bad this score is. I'm not in the cult of the Gia-haters, but come on, R1 is a pretty lame score. And it makes me even more curious to hear what Alexandre Desplat would do with that same material. crumbs, Bayesian, Molly Weasley and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 247 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, Anthony said: I hope it's available at 00:01 on Friday in each locale. I have the day off to listen to it. (I had tons of holiday left to take...so why not.) Which tracks are you guys most excited to hear? For me, it's; Walk To Dryden's Family Stories Maul's Call / Parting Ways Super Extra Deluxe End Credits Suite (but preparing to be disappointed by this based off all the Shazam chat) I think those are definitely the most exciting unreleased cues for me, too. Though thinking about it, I'm excited about all the new tracks! I'm also curious about Bunk/Proxima, as that's a really short cue in the film compared to the track time listed for the album. And yeah, although I quite liked Rogue One, and would definitely defend its honour, I think Solo has this one in the bag. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty95 561 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Solo is 12 parsecs better than Rogue One. I like the latter's themes (yes, even the guilty pleasure Imperial Suite) and the finale from "Your Father Would Be Proud" on is phenomenal. Apart from that, Rogue One is merely average, if not boring. Solo is one of most entertaining scores I've ever heard. Tom Guernsey and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,890 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Too much drum loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 600 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I think Rogue One would fare a bit better if it had an expanded release, but Solo is lightyears better in every aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Jay said: If my math is correct it will be up for sale in AU/NZ iTunes 17 hours, 10 minutes from the time of this post. Maybe I am off by 1 hr in either direction Just shy of 10 hours from now in AU. Under 8 hours for NZ. Assuming it's a regional launch like most soundtracks, and not a global launch at the same time (like new episodes of the Mandalorian). 7 hours ago, Anthony said: Which tracks are you guys most excited to hear? Absolutely the Hyperspace cue (forget the track title) and Parting Ways (the War Horse-esque finale with the theme on horns; gorgeous!) Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,221 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I was going to say it'll probably be released at the same time everywhere, but then I remembered that the SW video game albums released this year all released at midnight in each timezone, so I'm starting to think that might end up being the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I was going to say it'll probably be released at the same time everywhere, but then I remembered that the SW video game albums released this year all released at midnight in each timezone, so I'm starting to think that might end up being the case. Yeah it could really go either way. Powell's Instagram countdown timer is the only thing giving me pause. But fingers crossed. I have a VPN with an NZ server, so we'll know in around 6.5 hours. TSMefford and Bofur01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 332 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Rogue One had a lot of its funner themes not released and it could have used an expanded edition yeah. I do like the Solo score more tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 247 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 6 hours ago, crumbs said: Yeah it could really go either way. Powell's Instagram countdown timer is the only thing giving me pause. But fingers crossed. I have a VPN with an NZ server, so we'll know in around 6.5 hours. Let us know the verdict please, Crumbs! 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Will have to check when I get home. Sorry guys! Nothing on a quick google search though. Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,745 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I remembered that the SW video game albums released this year all released at midnight in each timezone Which albums are these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 697 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Looks like it's out in NZ! Smaug The Iron and Bofur01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,893 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I don't see the high res tracks up anywhere yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,173 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 Meet Han 2:21 2 Bunk / Proxima 3:10 3 Corellia Chase 3:34 4 Spaceport 4:09 5 Gonna Be A Pilot 0:30 6 Empire Recruitment 0:32 7 Mimban Battle 2:04 8 Blackmail 1:32 9 The Beast 2:37 10 Chewie Untamed 3:33 11 Surveying Conveyex 1:01 12 Deluxe Train Heist 10:21 13 Walk to Dryden 2:14 14 Chicken In The Pot feat. Baraka May & Reid Bruton 2:08 15 Han & Qi'ra Reunite 1:12 16 Stormtrooper JP-054 Karaoke feat. John Powell 2:08 17 Dryden's Patience Is Tested 5:30 18 Card Room 1:09 19 Sabacc Game 2:35 20 L3 & Millennium Falcon 3:17 21 Family Stories 1:59 22 Lando's Closet 2:10 23 Trust No One 1:17 24 Oksana Floren, Yadaa Yadaa Yadaa 4:28 25 Extra Deluxe Mine Mission 10:23 26 Kessel Run In Less Than 12 Parsecs 11:00 27 Savareen Tent 2:00 28 Enfys' Stand-Off 4:25 29 Qi'ra Knows A Bit More Than Han 2:14 30 Double-Double Cross 4:47 31 Dryden's Long, Long Fight 4:51 32 Maul's Call / Parting Ways 5:38 33 Lando's Jungle Room 1:02 34 Sabacc Rematch / To Tatooine 1:53 35 Super Extra Deluxe End Credits Suite 9:57 Total time: 2:03:41 https://music.apple.com/nz/album/solo-star-wars-story-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/1539560271 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 It's definitely available, just not working on my phone through Apple Music via VPN. Will be up in 35 minutes in Australia anyway though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 600 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 7digital have it up too in NZ (but only in MP3) https://nz.7digital.com/artist/john-powell/release/solo-a-star-wars-story-original-motion-picture-soundtrackdeluxe-edition-13755784 So "End Credits" sounds like an editing job. A shame. The impression I had was it had been touted as something brand new we'd never heard before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,173 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Samples sound great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Track 5 is credited only to Williams and runs 0:28, so that must be one of the cues Williams wrote. Total runtime is 2:03:25 for anyone wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,416 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 So Williams gets a credit on 7 tracks. That probably answers our questions. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,160 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Wow, why wasn't it mixed like this the first time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,698 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Right on cue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty95 561 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, crocodile said: So Williams gets a credit on 7 tracks. That probably answers our questions. Karol Which ones are those tracks? I can only see his credit in "Gonna Be a Pilot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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