mrbellamy 6,286 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, Fal said: Take it up with the music editors, one of them (Nate Underkuffler) is a member of filmtracks Get him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 "Why are you handing me the melt stick, he just edited some of the music, that's not a capital offense!" Brónach and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Run, Nate. Run away and never return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Breadstick Basilisk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricard 2,245 Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 Here's Incanus' review of the album: http://www.jwfan.com/?p=10949 Jay, SteveMc, Taikomochi and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Bilbo ❤️s this score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Fal said: I thought of that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Actually that train hesit bit is a combination of Hancock, especially The percussion .. and Independence Day, for the melody and such Actually, if you hear that full Id4 track, you can get the feel that somehow the Train Heist track was temp tracked by it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Darn, I guess this is a bad score after all! Let's pack up and go home, fellas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Give me episode IX, then I'm done with film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Where are your manners, horniest? You're supposed to ASK for Episode IX. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,012 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, hornist said: Give me episode IX, then I'm done with film music. What about The Book Thief 2: Electric Boogaloo? Karol Joni Wiljami, SteveMc and Kasey Kockroach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 hours ago, hornist said: Give me episode IX, then I'm done with film music. Oh I am sure Johnny will be penning for Spielberg before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Spielberg's decided Powell will score Indy 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 You are rather relentless these days Kasey. I detect a hint of Powell-fan in your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 John Powell scored a Star Wars movie! I'm on top of the world, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Think of how lucky we Williams fans are. Star Wars every other year! We are on a constant JW high! SteveMc and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Whatever it is you smoke that gives you that high, I wish I could get some! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted May 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2018 Longbottom Leaf, I presume. Hm. No wonder Neville's into Herbology! Kasey Kockroach, Incanus, Bilbo and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, Incanus said: Oh I am sure Johnny will be penning for Spielberg before then. The only Williams score I don't care that much is Indy4. And I just saw the Post, oh those ugly overacted spielberg moments. I'm also done with steven🙄 So ep. IX(unless there'll be positive surprises like DB😍) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 37 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Spielberg's decided Powell will score Indy 5. 9 minutes ago, hornist said: The only Williams score I don't care that much is Indy4 Lies! all lies! There is no Indy 5! There is no Indy 4! There is only a film that tries to look like an Indiana Jones film, and sadly another one on the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 So, it's a Minnesota Cuke movie? Mitth'raw'nuorodo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chen G. said: There is only a film that tries to look like an Indiana Jones film If there's one thing Skull does nothing like the originals, it's exactly the looks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 So I suppose The Imperial March is now not only a theme but an actual piece within the SW universe? What do we think about that? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Is it played diegetically in an orchestral setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Spoiler Yeah as a source in major mode (if I remember correctly) in an Imperial recruitment propaganda video. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Sounds awful. I actually really like it when themes crossover to the diegesis, but only when the score itself is of the world of the film: Braveheart, Middle Earth, etc... Williams' music is about the world of the film, not so much of it. The diegetic music of Star Wars has been, for the most part, apropriately jazzy, so orchestral music feels kind of inappropriate in the diegesis. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Does it matter? How is it different from Middle-earth? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Shore's music is of the world of the film. I always said that it sounds like an opera composed in the reunited kingdom sometime during the Forth Age. And the diegetic music, even when it doesn't stem from Shore's pen, is at least similarly folksy and instrumental/vocal. Same with James Horner's Braveheart - there's diegetic music not by Horner, but its a similar instrumental palette, so when Horner's score crosses into the diegesis, it doesn't feel outlandish. Star Wars - not so much. I can't really imagine a male chorus in the Emperor's throne-room. And the diegetic music, even where its by Williams, is mostly very jazzy rather than orchestral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,286 Posted May 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2018 Isn't Flag Parade diegetic? Honestly the Imperial March thing is fine in the movie. It's not really anything I thought twice about, it's sort of a background gag. Mitth'raw'nuorodo, Bilbo and Evanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Isn't Flag Parade diegetic? I said "mostly"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Damn I love this score. Saw the movie for the 4th time last night. I really wish it was a bit higher in the mix. Mitth'raw'nuorodo and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Not only flag parade, there's the weird opera music as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Chen G. said: Shore's music is of the world of the film. I always said that it sounds like an opera composed in the reunited kingdom sometime during the Forth Age. I would say it is both about and of the film not one or the other. Perhaps because it has one foot firmly in the literary realm and one in the cinematic one. And I have to say that the Solo score and the JW penned theme are pretty infectious. I have been humming the Solo theme every once in a while for a few days now. Chen G. and ocelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Chewie's Theme and its variations throughout the score are scrumptious, it's just a brilliant theme. This score has been one of my favourites that I constantly listen to since TLJ and The Shape of Water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I've listened to the themes individually several times, but when I listen to the score I can't recognize them except Han's main theme. This is the same problem I had with Rogue One. To me at least, the themes are pretty forgettable. To be fair though it's been less than a week. A month from now I may finally have them memorized. Mitth'raw'nuorodo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Interesting, at first I found the main Han theme really hard to grab on to. Chewie's Theme and the Searching Theme were the two that would get stuck in my head after listening sessions. Mitth'raw'nuorodo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Powell's treatment actually makes Williams' theme stand out more. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2018 Wow! Leigh Phillips for the win, as always. Muad'Dib, MikeH and DarthDementous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Incanus said: I would say it is both about and of the film not one or the other. Perhaps because it has one foot firmly in the literary realm and one in the cinematic one. Sure. A score is never just one or the other. It’s a sliding scale. But Williams’ Star Wars scores are very much in the “about the world” side of the spectrum. That’s why hearing the Imperial March in the diegesis sounds to me like a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 It was just a joke! Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Chen - it works pretty well in the movie. Check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2018 There are some people who definitely take all of this waaaaaay too seriously. Taikomochi, mstrox and ocelot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 A few thoughts on my first listen - this is very action heavy on both ends, with only a nice slow-down in the middle (like the movie). Makes it hard to "start" getting into the album until the Chicken in a Pot sequence. The stuff before it is good, just a full-on barrage. The Lando's Closet cue is wonderful. I like the choir for the marauders. Once the Lando/L3 material starts making it in, the score starts to feel a lot more "fun." All in all, it's pretty good. I enjoy the least Williamsy stuff most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,314 Posted May 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2018 Mine Mission is an incredible cue! Blows me away every time I hear it. Loert, Not Mr. Big, mstrox and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I'm so glad we live in the timeline where we got the Williams/Powell Solo score as opposed to the one with the Giacchino solo score. Taikomochi and MikeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I'm no great fan of the Rogue One score and even I'm getting a little weary of the jabs at Giacchino. mstrox and Mitth'raw'nuorodo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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