Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Incidentally, I'm not a big fan of the cover art. It's looks nice - very nice in fact -, but compared to the classic "ouch" and Moon covers, I can't help finding it rather un-iconic. That! I feel this released deserved a really unique kind of cover. While this looks like nice artwork, does not fit on my perception of unique. Other than that, this will probably be one of my favourite releases of a year already filled with tons of great releases (not just on the soundtrack/film music field, as I rarely buy film scores anymore, unless they have the name "John Williams" on it). Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonTHX 21 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Now, after these two releases there is surprisingly few non-Indy-and-SW scores left from the 20th century: Dracula The Witches of Eastwick Born on the Fourth of July Hook JFK Nixon Amistad That's it, IMO. Far and Away has some good stuff not released including that terrific alternate version of the end credits. I really want an expansion of this one. 25th anniversary maybe? Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Another thing about the music from the E.T. Adventure is that it's very obscure despite it being known among the JW circle that he worked on it. Most people haven't even heard the music I'm talking about and going to the last remaining E.T. ride at Universal in Florida these days doesn't even guarantee you'll hear anything. It's like the speakers blew a decade ago and/or they forgot there even was music. Even they don't play the music. I spent days going through YouTube recordings of the ride and not one of them captured the music. I know I didn't dream it up. I went on that ride so many times from being a little squirt up until 2012. The music was there, I'm telling you. It's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 hours ago, rough cut said: Of course this will contain the OST. There is no doing in my mind. Why do so many sound as if there's a chance it won't be? Well, if indeed several of the "OST" album tracks are in fact the film recordings, the album might not be included as such. Perhaps the film tracks are just included as part of the main programme, or as alternates if they have editing differences, with the additional album recordings as further bonus tracks. (In that case, you could still create a playlist to mimic the original album, obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 cool,, now we need a track list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Well, if indeed several of the "OST" album tracks are in fact the film recordings, the album might not be included as such. Perhaps the film tracks are just included as part of the main programme, or as alternates if they have editing differences, with the additional album recordings as further bonus tracks. (In that case, you could still create a playlist to mimic the original album, obviously) Probably not. The actual 3 score tracks which are also on the OST will be on both discs. It's always been that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, king mark said: cool,, now we need a track list Sums up the last 4 pages. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,087 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: I think the OST and 1996 CD sound great. My only issue was with the 2002 version, which Shawn Murphy jacked up the bass and treble. I feel the same way aboout the 2002 version. The tight crisp brightness was considerably reduced. I barely listened to it although the SACD sounds slightly better. Im sure we will see Matessinos magic on this one too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 This is awesome! I had a feeling. This AND Close Encounters of the Third Kind (probably in October, November or even December); a perfect way to commemorate the anniversaries of these films. Thank you, Maestro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 There are too many people with John Williams avatars. I can't tell anyone apart anymore. Will, Disco Stu and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If you can't read, how do you write? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,630 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 24 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: There are too many people with John Williams avatars. I can't tell anyone apart anymore. there are too many people who change their user names every 2 seconds Ricard, Bilbo and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amer 2,087 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Remember this thread? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26729-et Jay is the only one being optimistic about it. Well 35th is here and we have E.T. 2CD coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 At least my posts are consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,087 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 Here is Mike Matessino talking about E.T. at Spielbergfilms.com discussion .Its pretty much of a pitch that he may have done to Williams team to get it right. P.S. Pay attention to what he says about CE3K briefly! ( btw, I culled the following from the above mentioned Intrada post discussion by @tjguitar ) http://spielbergfilms.com/showthread.php?t=9209 Quote: First of all Williams's E.T. is a masterpiece in every way and one of my favorites. Basically I think that both the 1982 and 2002 releases are essential, but to the discerning listener or completist the definitive version needs to be created from the various available sources, some of which are now hard to come by. In my opinion some mistakes were made along the way with this one, making a bit more of a mess than CE3K. I think that in 1996 it was an ill-considered idea to make the CD they did since the Laserdisc had an isolated music track on it. The CD was included with the LD and so just about all of the music on it was redundant, while in stores the new release resulted in the disappearance of the original 1982 album. This was bad because about half of the original album consisted of tracks specifically recorded for it (album versions of two tracks -- "Abandoned and Pursued" and "E.T.'s Halloween" -- and three straightforward presentations of themes -- "Over the Moon," "E.T. and Me" and "Flying," -- the latter a Grammy winner. The 1982 album itself was also a Grammy winner, so to make it suddenly unavailable made no sense. What should have happened: remaster the 1982 album and add bonus tracks to it, including anything that was "alternate" or not used in the film. Sell that version in stores and also include it with the LD, on which all the rest of the music would be available via the iso-score. This way the iso-score isn't redundant, the original album is still available, and those who purchase the expensive LD get everything. But this isn't the way it was done. In 2002, there was an opportunity to fix all of this by releasing a 2-CD set with both the original album and all the other material, but again it didn't happen. What did happen, however, was that some of the incorrect takes on the 1996 CD were replaced with the correct ones (for the tracks "Searching for E.T." and "End Credits"). Even though these had been available on the LD iso-score the 2002 CD offered much better quality. But there was a tradeoff in that the track "E.T. Is Alive" was inexplicably shortened from the full version that had been presented in 1996 and 1982 (on which it was called "E.T. Phone Home"). There are also two other oddities on the 1996 version that could have and should have been corrected in 2002, but weren't. The first is the music for the scene where E.T. dies ("E.T. Is Dying"). Williams's original (unused) version was presented on CD instead of the revised version used in the film, and to this day the only source for it is the LD iso-score (which was not carried over to DVD). The second is the music for the "ouch" section of the goodbye scene at the end of the film. Williams's original version is presented instead of the one including a "more emotional" insert that was incorporated both into the film and the 1982 album. The complete score can fit on one CD, but it has to be created. And here's how... From the LD iso-score, the following are needed: • The Main Title - eerie swelling effect (easy enough to take from DVD) • Elliott searching the corn field - again the eerie swelling effect • John Wayne kiss - short segment starting with a riff on the "Quiet Man" theme. • E.T. Is Dying - revised version heard in the film And from the 1982 album you need "Adventure on Earth" because of the above-mentioned insert during the "ouch" moment of the finale. Problem is the 2002 CD has much-improved sound quality as compared to the 1982 release (or the LD iso-score) so if you have the capability of doing so it's better to use the 1982 album for just that insert, adding a bit of EQ to make a better match. Then you need "E.T. Is Alive" from the 1996 album rather than the 2002. So put this all together and you end up with a complete score fitting on one disc. What's leftover are basically all alternates: • the original 1982 album, specifically the five tracks recorded especially for it: "Abandoned and Pursued," "E.T.'s Halloween," "Flying," "E.T. and Me" and "Over the Moon"; • "Searching for E.T." and "End Credits" from the 1996 CD; • "E.T. Is Dying" and "Goodbye" from either the 1996 or 2002 CD. This would have made a nice 2nd CD in itself and if they had done this in 2002 there would also have been the opportunity (and the space) to add both Walter Murphy's disco version (which MCA Records owns) and the music Williams recorded for the "E.T. Adventure" ride. So that's everything. It's all available but it takes some work to locate, sort out and put together the way, in my opinion, it should be. Mike Gruesome Son of a Bitch, crumbs, bollemanneke and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Not sure what's up as that link doesn't load for me, but I read that exact post on FSM months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm still not sure the film version of Adventures on Earth is the same as the original OST. The 2 horn blasts at 12.43 aren't in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, king mark said: I'm still not sure the film version of Adventures on Earth is the same as the original OST. The 2 horn blasts at 12.43 aren't in the film I am sure there will be time for worrying and gnashing of teeth when the set comes out. Although I have to say I have the utmost confidence in Mike Matessino's album producing skills. I can't find a single thing to complain about in e.g. Jaws, Jaws 2, Empire of the Sun or JP Collection releases. bollemanneke and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I agree with Inc. If Mike Matessino's involved, there's nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,087 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So from Matessino's post I can see that even he is interested in the 'E.T. Botanicus' score. If located in time it could be added as well? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 21 hours ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Has Thor been in yet to tell us he has no interest in this but is happy for those who do want it yet? This hasn't happen yet. Getting worried now. It won't be an official release of it doesn't happen ☹️ crumbs, bollemanneke and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 His mention of the ET Adventure music is very interesting. Seems he considers its inclusion as essential for a truly comprehensive release of E.T. Amer and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 10 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: Another thing about the music from the E.T. Adventure is that it's very obscure despite it being known among the JW circle that he worked on it. Most people haven't even heard the music I'm talking about and going to the last remaining E.T. ride at Universal in Florida these days doesn't even guarantee you'll hear anything. It's like the speakers blew a decade ago and/or they forgot there even was music. Even they don't play the music. I spent days going through YouTube recordings of the ride and not one of them captured the music. I know I didn't dream it up. I went on that ride so many times from being a little squirt up until 2012. The music was there, I'm telling you. It's real. The JWFan search engine swallowed it up into the void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 7 hours ago, azahid said: Here is Mike Matessino talking about E.T. at Spielbergfilms.com discussion . [...] Problem is the 2002 CD has much-improved sound quality as compared to the 1982 release (or the LD iso-score) so if you have the capability of doing so it's better to use the 1982 album for just that insert, adding a bit of EQ to make a better match. [...] Erm... WHAT?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 He was speaking of the best sources for fan edits. Let's hope he was able to locate all the actual sources to build the set he describes for real. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 9 hours ago, azahid said: Remember this thread? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26729-et Jay is the only one being optimistic about it. Well 35th is here and we have E.T. 2CD coming. Reading through that thread and looking and when it was, it seems the reason they asked Intrada not to work on ET at the time was because they wanted Jurassic Park and Lost World out first! I wonder if all future JW/SS/MM expansions will come out on the LLL label now (apart from Indiana Jones scores which will of course come out on Disney Records). Really only Jaws has not been by LLL; 1941, Empire of Sun, AI, JP, TLW, ET, and CE3K are all LLL! 8 hours ago, king mark said: I'm still not sure the film version of Adventures on Earth is the same as the original OST. The 2 horn blasts at 12.43 aren't in the film You're exactly correct! The track on the original 1982 LP is the EXACT film version throughout the entire thing - exact same takes and edit points - EXCEPT for the horn overlay at 12:42 for the "I'll be right here" moment. That overlay wasn't used in the film. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: He was speaking of the best sources for fan edits. Let's hope he was able to locate all the actual sources to build the set he describes for real. Yes, but he still says the official 2002 CD sounds much better than the original album. The main reason I'm excited for the new set is the hopefully much improved sound quality compared to the 2002 release; other previously unreleased tracks are welcome but secondary to that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,336 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 There's no reason to think this won't be the best sounding version of ET yet. Do you think the original albums for 1941, Superman: The Movie, Empire of the Sun, Home Alone, JP, TLW, or AI sound better than the Matessino versions? Also, MV just confirmed the Bruce Botnick-approved remaster of the OST appearing in the Blu Ray gift said is the same remaster that will be used on this: Quote They are using our master for the OST, but all they are including is the OST http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=121219&forumID=1&archive=0 crumbs, Marian Schedenig, Ricard and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Botnick is a BEAST!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, Jay said: There's no reason to think this won't be the best sounding version of ET yet. Oh, I don't really think that. I'm more baffled than worried by Matessino's comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The analogue master of the OST CE was not great. The 2002 expansion sounded crystal clear. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croweyes1121 14 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Hmm. I hope he doesn't forget the triangle just before E.T. makes the bikes fly at the end. He mentions the insert needing to be taken from the 1982 album, but not the triangle. That needs to be in there for a true film version, too, and it was left out of the 2002 CD. As for a price, this thing could be $50 and it would still be mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Do you honestly think Matessino would miss an overlay in any score, yet alone an iconic overlay in one of his favorite scores of all time? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Croweyes1121 said: As for a price, this thing could be $50 and it would still be mine. Me too, but shhhhhh. Don't tell La La Land. crumbs, Croweyes1121 and Amer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croweyes1121 14 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jay said: Do you honestly think Matessino would miss an overlay in any score, yet alone an iconic overlay in one of his favorite scores of all time? No, not really. lol I was just going by the quote and nothing else. I'm sure it'll be fantastic! Really digging that cover art. Can't wait to pick this up. It'll be nice to finally retire my own fanedit of Escape/Chase/Goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 For the 1982 OST, I just wish they could've used the digital master prepared by Steve Hoffman back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 That's exactly what the 1990 CD is. The master of the album recordings only exists at 16bit/44.1khz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm afraid not. His digital master was only used to make and analog dub, running at 30ips on 1/4" tape, and that was used to make the 1982 LP and the subsequent CD releases. He said to pay attention to the very opening of the first track. If there's hiss present, than it's the analog dub. And sure thing, there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Ah gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: Do you think the original albums for 1941, Superman: The Movie, Empire of the Sun, Home Alone, JP, TLW, or AI sound better than the Matessino versions? Some of these are definitely debatable. The remastered versions of many just sounded brighter and louder. Many people here were digitally vocal about how they didn't like the new Jurassic Park mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 This is an absolute dream come true. I'm shocked at how quickly these timeless Spielberg/Williams releases are dropping. Very, very excited for this. Jay, pass along my thanks to Mike for all this unbelievable progress!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 It is pretty amazing we're basically getting two huge Williams/Spielberg scores per year now, innit? Demondm810 and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,708 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The cover really is lovely. Much nicer than this Rambo: First Blood Part II cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yea I love the cover and hope they post a larger version somewhere soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yep! E.T. and CE3K, with MM touch, the same year, with a few months apart from each other? I sure don't wanna wake up from this dream... On 11/10/2016 at 9:36 PM, phbart said: Jaws first expansion was in 2000, and the definitive expansion was in 2015, 15 years from one to the other. E.T. latest expansion was in 2002, 14 years ago. So all we have to do is wait another year... Gee, didn't even remember this! I'm beginning to wonder about my supernatural powers now Oh, mighty Lord of film scores, thou shall make Lucasfilm give Indy to Intrada next year... Roger Feigelson at FSM forum (http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=121219&archive=0): I get that the Jurassic Park two-fer was a good indicator, but why wasn't it possible in your view that Intrada might tackle this, given their work on Jaws & Jaws 2? Yavar It was possible for Intrada to do ET; they have a good track record with Universal. Just seemed more likely with LLL, given the trend with Williams titles the last few years. They seem to have cornered that market. -Rick O. Funny thing is we asked about it right after Jaws but there was no interest in revisiting E.T. at the time. Things change of course. It goes without saying it's in great hands with LaLaLand. I keep pressing on the Indiana Jones titles, but LucasFilm is holding off as they solidify their strategy around the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: The cover really is lovely. Much nicer than this Rambo: First Blood Part II cover. That cover looks exactly like the movie. The E.T. cover shows Elliot with his bike on a cliff in Porter Ranch watching a spaceship, which never happens. I don't dislike it, but it looks like the cover of the junior novelization or something. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 MM posted a larger version of the bottom of the cover on his Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 21 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Yes. Few things are more precious. One of them being your BFG OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 27 minutes ago, Jay said: MM posted a larger version of the bottom of the cover on his Facebook It's still flopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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