A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Hey, random question: Is there some reason people think Meteor Man has to be Gandalf and not, say, a heroic Saruman? Or literally any other wizard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Brónach said: I'm starting to think we're being trolled in classic Sauron fashion with the "Gandalf" I'm not so sure we are. What was the incentive of having Hobbits in there? That "its not Middle Earth without Hobbits." Well, if it ain't Middle Earth without Hobbits it sure as hell ain't Middle Earth without Gandalf: he's THE iconic character of the series. The other option is that its a Balrog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Let's make it happen. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I've seen plenty of people thinking this depicts the Oath of Feanor: Although I'm sceptical (for example, many still believe the snowy part of the trailer is Helcaraxë even though it's been corrected to be Forodwaith), I have to admit that I don't know for sure that they don't have the rights for it. Furthermore, do you think the marketing team is intentionally including things that could lead people to believe they have access to more lore than they actually have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 The have the same swords as Galadriel and the other guy. The picture could easily be from the same sequence as the rest of the Forodwaith stuff. Why would they have mass produced swords, I don't know but that's kind of weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Brónach said: Why would they have mass produced swords, I don't know but that's kind of weird Meh. Onscreen the Elves were always kind of uniform-seeming: it kinda fits their aesthetic. I oscilate in how much I like this pre-Raphaelite aesthetic for the Elves: it varies from being quite cool to being a little too saccharine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 One of the few things I didn't like that PJ did was the overly-militaristic portrayal of the Elves in combat, particularly (in both LOTR & The Hobbit) where they do that coming to attention in formation & present arms bit. Always rubs me the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 A IMDB lists Howard Shore as the only composer for 8 episodes. Might be wrong as IMDB isn’t very reliable, but great news if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 No one trust IMDB enderdrag64 and Jim Ware 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van_Etten 111 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I believe Amazon accidentaly revealed Shore's involvement through instagram and deleted it, but it was months ago. Monoverantus and Servant of Morgoth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Van_Etten said: I believe Amazon accidentaly revealed Shore's involvement Twice actually, they included a line about in the first Vanity Fair article too before it was removed. It's been pretty obvious that he's involved for a long time now, the question is to what extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 It's clear he's been involved, thought that doesn't necessarily mean the final product has to contain what he provided in the producers don't like it, and it was never reasonable to assume he'd compose every cue needed for every episode himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Monoverantus said: they included a line about in the first Vanity Fair article too before it was removed. Its very hard to tell if that one was due to Vanity Fair seeing episodes/footage with a Howard Shore temp track or a genuine score. Monoverantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I hope there was no unnecesary drama and whatever he did worked out to some extent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 https://ew.com/events/comic-con/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-comic-con-2022-cover/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 If it didn’t have Lord of the Rings plastered across the front of it I would never have been able to tell that had anything to do with Tolkien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Just for the sake of comparison Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, His Royal Noelness said: If it didn’t have Lord of the Rings plastered across the front of it I would never have been able to tell that had anything to do with Tolkien. It doesn't have anything to do with Tolkien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Have they changed it, or is this just outdated information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 We had her name as Carine from a production document. I guess it was one of those names that was kinda tentative: a little bit like how on production documents from Bakshi's film there's Ruman whereas in the film he's mostly Aruman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Could have sworn at least one "official" source had made it public, guess I was wrong. Does this mean more names (like your dreaded Elanor) are potentially subject to change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Fellowship reported and even shared the production document in question. But otherwise it wasn’t reported elsewhere. The other names were, and I think there’s little question that Elanor, Marigold and Largo Brandyfoot, Poppy Proudfellow and Sadoc Burrows are here to stay. Fellowship also reported what now seems a no-brainer, which is that Pharazon’s son, Kemen, is schtupping Earien. The Wagnerian in me is laughing in Rienzi. Monoverantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Morgoth 20 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Monoverantus said: Have they changed it, or is this just outdated information? So let's try to understand this logic: the writing room decide to introduce an OC daughter of Elendil forgetting Elendil has another son Anarion which at least for season 1 is off screen as the article of Entertainment Weekly said a week ago . And Tolkien Estate is involved in all of this? Yesterday I read Simon Tolkien is involved as a consultant. Well he was almost disinherited by Christopher Tolkien many years ago because he wanted to work with Jackson and he broke ranks and he went against his father's policy I don't know how this tv show is going to be but I'm pretty sure Tolkien Estate doesn't give a damn anymore about staying true to Tolkien's works. They care mostly about the money. Barnald and Nick1Ø66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The man is dead and everything should be public domain. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Morgoth 20 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Brónach said: The man is dead and everything should be public domain. What will happen when everything he wrote will be public domain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I think The Hobbit enters public domain in the US in 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Brónach said: The man is dead and everything should be public domain. Well everything the man wrote is in the public library. I highly recommend reading it all! Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Servant of Morgoth said: What will happen when everything he wrote will be public domain? If the internet still exists, it may be freely available on the internet as well, and you could do whatever you want with it, including nothing. Printing and translations require additional cost (in the case of translations until their rights expire as well.) All of this "look, a corporation instead of the author has the rights for xyz but not zyx" just creates dumb situations one after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Stu said: I think The Hobbit enters public domain in the US in 10 years. More like 20 years, if I'm not mistaken. That's until Disney buys it up like all the other nice things and manages to extend the copyright forever like they do everything else. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings were public domain the US until 1996. That's how Rankin/Bass made those cartoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 They weren't made using the film rights (they're not even films - they're television!). In fact, those who did hold the film rights (i.e. Bakshi) tried to sue the Rankin/Bass cartoons out of airing, and joined forces with the Tolkien Estate in order to so, but failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/07/20/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-showrunner-questions-how-to-make-isildurs-story-tragic-j-r-r-tolkien-already-wrote-it/ I wonder how extensive their changes to Isildur’s character will be given this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Morgoth 20 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Not overwhelmed by these two first themes Galadriel and Sauron. But maybe I'm biased https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/tv/news/bear-mccreary-confirmed-as-composer-of-the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-20549/ While Bear McCreary is the main composer of the tv series, Howard Shore has composed only the main title theme. You can listen here: https://music.amazon.com.br/albums/B0B621SXCS?do=play&trackAsin=B0B62NFLK7&ref=dm_sh_wC0Cjm01JURy6DC27xAEo4vD0 10 hours ago, Mr. Who said: https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/07/20/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-showrunner-questions-how-to-make-isildurs-story-tragic-j-r-r-tolkien-already-wrote-it/ I wonder how extensive their changes to Isildur’s character will be given this statement. I think this article is not very reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewWho95 14 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 8:03 PM, Nick1Ø66 said: More like 20 years, if I'm not mistaken. That's until Disney buys it up like all the other nice things and manages to extend the copyright forever like they do everything else. Tbf Disney can't keep copyright extended. For instance, Winnie the Pooh entered the public domain this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 New long trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Is that supposed to be Sauron lol? Good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Dear God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Looool wtf even after these comments priming me I actually laughed out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Wait, so why are they allowed to use pretty much the exact same balrog design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Good news: Meteor Man is not Sauron. Bad news: he may well still be Gandalf. There are at least three premonitions of the Balrog in this: Durin III talks about it, there's a shot of it at the end, but also the shot of the Mallorn leaf blowing is in Moria. Its supposed to be blowing through shafts with Mithril veins into the depths where the proximity of the slumbering Balrog ignites it. Not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted July 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2022 I have no idea why you’re all shitting on this. It doesn’t look amazing, but it does look “fine,” certainly a damn sight better than the Hobbit movies. Holko, Bilbo, Barnald and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 The crossing of the T-s and dotting of the I-s is a bit much... Especially with the Hobbits and Meteor Man! And I'm not sure I'm a fan of that village going "boom" and turning into Mordor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Morgoth 20 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Good news: Meteor Man is not Sauron. Bad news: he may well still be Gandalf. There are at least three premonitions of the Balrog in this: Durin III talks about it, there's a shot of it at the end, but also the shot of the Mallorn leaf blowing is in Moria. Its supposed to be blowing through shafts with Mithril veins into the depths where the proximity of the slumbering Balrog ignites it. Not a fan. How it's possible to tease a Balrog attacking Moria if the show is set during Second Age? While the Balrog awakes around 1980 T.A? Also Sauron is just a Maia he can't bend to his will another Maia 1 minute ago, A. A. Ron said: I have no idea why you’re all shitting on this. It doesn’t look amazing, but it does like “fine,” certainly a damn sight better than the Hobbit movies. It doesn't look bad I agree. But it's tough to say that it's going to be better than the Hobbits.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, Servant of Morgoth said: How it's possible to tease a Balrog attacking Moria if the show is set during Second Age? While the Balrog awakes around 1980 T.A? I bet the endgame for the Moria storyline is the Balrog attack, transposed to the Second Age a-la the Harfoots. Servant of Morgoth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted July 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Good news: Meteor Man is not Sauron. Bad news: he may well still be Gandalf. Bilbo, Bellosh, Barnald and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I still say meteor man could be a heroic Saruman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Morgoth 20 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I think that if I turn off my brain and forget everything Tolkien wrote I may occasionally like this show Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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