Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I haven't really seen a good reason to be optimistic about this series yet. Not sure there's a good reason to be pessimistic yet either beyond, "well most things turn out bad, so this probably will." I'll of course give it a chance when it releases! I’m usually over optimistic and forgiving about franchises I like. Plus something about this hasn’t felt right from day one. And Prime’s output seems to be largely crap. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Weird hearing another voice read those words outside the Jackson ensemble. I assume the voice-over is supposed to be Galadriel? Was she trying to channel Blanchett or a little girl? (that's what I thought she sounded like). Though she did pronounce Mordor correctly, so there's that. Still think the whole thing feels Wheel of Timeish. Anyway, the title is sort of awkward. Do we have a release date for this yet? Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 September 2. 12 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Was she trying to channel Blanchett or a little girl? (that's what I thought she sounded like). Morfydd Clark is a good actress, but her voice is...yeah. There are actually is another actress in the cast actually playing Galadriel as a little girl. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I haven't really seen a good reason to be optimistic about this series yet. Not sure there's a good reason to be pessimistic yet either beyond, "well most things turn out bad, so this probably will." I'll of course give it a chance when it releases! As someone who hated the Hobbit trilogy (and therefore couldn't really connect with the score), I'm a bit anxious of the idea of Shore scoring. If the show sucks, will a damn good score make it feel better or worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Appearantly Douglas Trumbull worked on this teaser! https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/lord-of-the-rings-rings-of-power-amazon-series-1235156784/ Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Chen G. said: Appearantly Douglas Trumbull worked on this teaser! https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/lord-of-the-rings-rings-of-power-amazon-series-1235156784/ Wow. As in amazing ST: TMP effects guy? Cool! I had no idea he was still...in business. 2 hours ago, Monoverantus said: As someone who hated the Hobbit trilogy (and therefore couldn't really connect with the score), I'm a bit anxious of the idea of Shore scoring. If the show sucks, will a damn good score make it feel better or worse? Great scores elevate mediocre or even bad material all the time, even in Middle-Earth (as Leonard Rosenman will tell you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: As in amazing ST: TMP effects guy? And 2001... And Silent Running... And almost Star Wars (Lucas wanted him, but got his understudy, instead)... And Close Encounters... And Blade Runner... And Tree of Life... 12 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: as Leonard Rosenman will tell you Some of us have a warm place in our heart for that movie, warts and all. If there's something to be said for the novelty of having Douglas Trumbull involved in a Lord of the Rings teaser, there sure as hell is something to be said for the novelty of having C3PO play Legolas! (or for the novelty of having Orson Welles narrate the trailer to that film). blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,385 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The score for the teaser wasn't by Shore, was It? It sounds too much like generic trailer music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,670 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Wow. As in amazing ST: TMP effects guy? Cool! I had no idea he was still...in business. Great scores elevate mediocre or even bad material all the time, even in Middle-Earth (as Leonard Rosenman will tell you). That definitely did not happen with The Hobbit, sadly in my eyes, from the perspective that Shore's music was nowhere near as iconic as his LotR material and as such failed to elevate several very weak movies. I put it partly down to the movies' lack of material to support set pieces and the weaker thematic material. When Plan 9's theme is the most memorable melody in the entire score, something's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,285 Posted January 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: The score for the teaser wasn't by Shore, was It? It sounds too much like generic trailer music. Even if he did provide something, it definitely sounds like it was trailer-ized after the fact Nick1Ø66, Chen G., Edmilson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: When Plan 9's theme is the most memorable melody in the entire score, something's wrong. The most memorable melody in Die Walkure is the Ride of the Valkyries, which is fairly tangential to the plot... Leitmotives are not tunes in a broadway musical. Their point isn't memorably, its malleability; and all six Middle Earth scores are a tour the force of developing and interweaving motives. 50 minutes ago, Edmilson said: The score for the teaser wasn't by Shore, was It? I don't think its by Shore, but its using his material: the whole thing reminds me of the History of the Ring. To quote @Doug Adams on this very question, "time will tell"... Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,285 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Chen G. said: This is a title that we imagine could live on the spine of a book next to J.R.R. Tolkien's other classics," showrunners J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay said in a statement. "The Rings of Power unites all the major stories of Middle-earth's Second Age: the forging of the rings, the rise of the Dark Lord Sauron, the epic tale of Númenor, and the Last Alliance of Elves and Men. Until now, audiences have only seen on-screen the story of the One Ring – but before there was one, there were many… and we're excited to share the epic story of them all." I found a longer version of this statement: “This is a title that we imagine could live on the spine of a book next to J.R.R. Tolkien’s other classics,” showrunners J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay said in a statement. “Up until now, audiences have only seen on-screen the story of the One Ring — but before there was one, there were many… and we’re excited to share the epic story of them all.” Per Payne and McKay, the series “unites all major stories of Middle-earth’s Second Age,” including the forging of the Rings of Power, the rise of the Dark Lord Sauron, the epic tale of Númenor (the island of men from which Aragorn is descended) and the Last Alliance of Elves and Men (chronicled in the prologue of Peter Jackson’s Fellowship of the Ring). https://tvline.com/2022/01/19/lord-of-the-rings-series-title-the-rings-of-power-amazon-teaser-video/ Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I think that's a different phrasing of the actual full statement, which we were sent at Fellowship of Fans: Quote CULVER CITY, California –January 19, 2022– Prime Video’s The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power officially has a name and it hints at what’s to come. The television series’ complete title was unveiled today, and the significance behind the subtitle will not be lost on J.R.R. Tolkien fans, foreshadowing an epic story that welds the major events of Tolkien’s Second Age together: the forging of the iconic rings. The multi-season drama – The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power – will premiere exclusively on Prime Video in more than 240 countries around the world in multiple languages on Friday, September 2, with new episodes available weekly. “This is a title that we imagine could live on the spine of a book next to J.R.R. Tolkien’s other classics. The Rings of Power unites all the major stories of Middle-earth’s Second Age: the forging of the rings, the rise of the Dark Lord Sauron, the epic tale of Númenor, and the Last Alliance of Elves and Men,” said Showrunners J.D. Payne & Patrick McKay. “Until now, audiences have only seen on-screen the story of the One Ring – but before there was one, there were many… and we’re excited to share the epic story of them all.” Just as so many elements of the show itself were hand-crafted, Prime Video chose to physically forge the title in a blacksmith foundry, pouring fiery molten metal into hand-carved wooden ravines shaped to the letterforms. The process was captured in slow motion for a live-action video, which features voice-over narration of lines from Tolkien’s famous “Ring Verse,” describing the intended recipients of the 20 Rings of Power. The bespoke title treatment appears crafted in a silvery metal, with lines of Elvish script inscribed along the crest of each letterform. Lines from Tolkien’s “Ring Verse” featured in the voice-over as part of Prime Video’s announcement today: Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky, Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. About The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Prime Video’s The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power brings to screens for the very first time the heroic legends of the fabled Second Age of Middle-earth’s history. This epic drama is set thousands of years before the events of J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and will take viewers back to an era in which great powers were forged, kingdoms rose to glory and fell to ruin, unlikely heroes were tested, hope hung by the finest of threads, and one of the greatest villains that ever flowed from Tolkien’s pen threatened to cover all the world in darkness. Beginning in a time of relative peace, the series follows an ensemble cast of characters, both familiar and new, as they confront the long-feared reemergence of evil to Middle-earth. From the darkest depths of the Misty Mountains, to the majestic forests of the elf-capital of Lindon, to the breathtaking island kingdom of Númenor, to the farthest reaches of the map, these kingdoms and characters will carve out legacies that live on long after they are gone. The series is led by showrunners and executive producers J.D. Payne & Patrick McKay. They are joined by executive producers Lindsey Weber, Callum Greene, J.A. Bayona, Belén Atienza, Justin Doble, Jason Cahill, Gennifer Hutchison, Bruce Richmond, and Sharon Tal Yguado, and producers Ron Ames and Christopher Newman. Wayne Che Yip is co-executive producer and directs along with J.A. Bayona and Charlotte Brändström. A world-renowned literary work, and winner of the International Fantasy Award and Prometheus Hall of Fame Award, The Lord of the Rings was named Amazon customers’ favorite book of the millennium in 1999 and Britain’s best-loved novel of all time in BBC’s “The Big Read” in 2003. The Lord of the Rings books have been translated into over 38 languages and have sold more than 150 million copies. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I assumed it was from “Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age” from The Silmarillion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 According to the statement, the showrunners picked it because they needed a fairly generalized title that could concievably encompass the events of the whole of the second age. In other words, they're doing BOTH the creation of the Rings, the Fall of Numenore and The Last Alliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,285 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Awesome thanks for posting the full press release! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 There's also an age rating for it on Amazon: its 16+ which is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,477 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Why it is not called the Power of the Rings instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,285 Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 We don't want to hear about your powerful rings, Bespin! Nick1Ø66, crumbs, A. A. Ron and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 One of my cohosts was much dismayed that Amazon didn’t use her title: “The Ring of the Bling.” Oh well… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The teaser was interesting. The photography reminded me of Tree of Life stuff, which was cool. The voiceover threw me off, especially the rhythm/meter of it, but probably because I'm conditioned to Blanchett's iconic reading. The trailer music was...not good...makes me think more of The Witcher/Wheel of Time-tier fantasy than LOTR, but it is trailer music, so guess I won't judge too harshly. The title is meh. Still have no reason to get excited about this. But will certainly check it out. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 One does wonder if this is to become the show’s actual opening title sequence… Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 ewww 9 hours ago, Chen G. said: One does wonder if this is to become the show’s actual opening title sequence… Hopefully not with that music… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Well, if its to serve as the opening credits (and we know Amazon are going to have them) it'll probably have to be longer (and therefore rescored): the Game of Thrones opening credit sequence was about 40 seconds longer than this. It is telling that Morfydd's voiceover doesn't encompass the whole Ring verse, so maybe they have the whole thing in the can for a longer version of this, intended for the opening credits. With this budget, they obviously can effort to spend on just a teaser, but it makes more sense that they should go the trouble of filming this were it be their opening-credits sequence, especially since - according to Trumbull - they came-in with some specific ideas, like the water splashing at the mention of "Men doomed to die." We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Yes the “subtle” Númenor reference 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Well, we're told Miriel (Cynthia Addai-Robinson) will have nightmares about the deluge already in Season One, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Ummm... Monoverantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The teaser I found on Amazon Prime doesn't have a voiceover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The making-of has the music clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chen G. said: The making-of has the music clean. Not what I meant, I've seen the making-of. I'm just asking why there is voice-over in the teaser I see on Twitter, but not on Amazon's own streaming site. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The music in the teaser is Shore? Really? It doesn’t sound like him at all. Trailerised epic Shore maybe but… eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, His Royal Noelness said: The music in the teaser is Shore? Really? We shall have to wait and see, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,285 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: Ummm... This is a completely fake image, right? Amazon Prime's actual official account is different: https://twitter.com/PrimeVideo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Its not Twitter, 'tis Instagram: And now its getting reported elsewhere: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,670 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 It's Prime's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amazonprimevideo/?hl=en Plus Adams giving that tease.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 They should just announce it if there's something to announce. The teases are only annoying. Bilbo, crumbs, bored and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,285 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 When I go to the instagram post, the Prime account has deleted the responses shown above https://www.instagram.com/p/CY6m_v9r4za/c/17922359372125727/ Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Hmm...that does not sound very Shore, maybe Shore loosely "interpreted" by a trailer music house... Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,670 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Nothing about the trailer sounds like Shore. I've got no idea where any resemblance of the Ring theme comes from either. If Shore's involved, yeah, probably a trailer music composer's modernized interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Nothing about the trailer sounds like Shore. I've got no idea where any resemblance of the Ring theme comes from either. I don't think Shore himself had anything to do with the piece, but I could definitely see Bear McCreary quoting him in it. Listen to the History of the Ring theme heard in The Doors of Durin, and compare to the first 2 notes in the teaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 And then the rest of the music still retains a strong "History of the Ring" feeling through that characteristic interval. Its like how, at the beginning of Die Walkure, you get all that storm music and then in the middle of it you get the Spear motive, as though to clue you into the fact that the storm music is a very hidden variant of the spear. Here, too, the more obvious reference to the Ring theme "primes" you to hear that all this music is derived from the Ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,285 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chen G. said: the more obvious reference to the Ring theme "primes" you to hear that all this music is derived from the Ring. I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I didn't intend it, but okay. Another example: its like how the little hint of "The Imperial March" at the end of Anakin's theme makes you realize that's its all basically the Imperial March. Composers want to clue their listeners in for hidden connections and disguised variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,670 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I hear the reference in the first two notes now. I don't dislike the trailer music at all - it's melodically pleasant actually. Monoverantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Jay said: When I go to the instagram post, the Prime account has deleted the responses shown above https://www.instagram.com/p/CY6m_v9r4za/c/17922359372125727/ So it could either be that they were revealing the news before they were allowed to OR that whatever social media manager had it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: it could be that they were revealing the news before they were allowed to From knowing how Amazon are with these things, yes. They're very, very conscious of releasing things at just the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Well, this all sounds promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, blondheim said: Well, this all sounds promising. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 To me, its really simple. I want to see the stories of Celebrimbor and Pharazon dramatized (how they'll do both is beyond me but we'll see). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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