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THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)


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15 minutes ago, Quintus said:

 

I've thought about this a lot actually over the last couple of years and I've meant to make a thread about it countless times. Those last seven notes on the celesta... I always feel like that was Williams signing off, at the time, from Star Wars just in case. It's awfully poignant to me, those closing final moments of that score. 

 

Agree so much with that. I wouldn't be surprised if he was probably leaning towards retiring from the franchise as he was writing TFA.

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I made custom covers by characters.              

So I've completed my first film viewing, two OST listens and have been listening to isolated tracks all night. I was a little negative last night focusing on the things I didn't like about the score,

4 minutes ago, Damien F said:

Agree so much with that. I wouldn't be surprised if he was probably leaning towards retiring from the franchise as he was writing TFA.

 

From what we read in the media at the time he didn't at all seem certain that he would compose Episodes VIII and IX. It's a big project to commit to.

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4 minutes ago, Damien F said:

Agree so much with that. I wouldn't be surprised if he was probably leaning towards retiring from the franchise as he was writing TFA.

 

Daisy brought him back!

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Given that the Resistance march/theme was my favorite new thematic identity from TFA (and I agree that its absence from the TFA finale was peculiar), I was pleasantly surprised to hear so much of the theme integrated in this new score.

Two of my (new) favorite iterations of the theme appear in rapid succession in "Main Title and Escape."

First, at 3:01-3:10-ish, that rapid, frantic statement is fresh - desperate yet building towards triumph.

Then, my favorite new addition to the theme occurs at 3:20-3:23, after the explosive introductory fanfare but before the main statement - that very brief sort of reverberating horn (or is it trombone?) performing a bold, defiant fragment of the theme leading into the main statement. It immediately evoked a mental image of someone raising their fists and quickly positioning themselves for a fight, as if in a gritty fisticuffs match. What a great addition - it fits the sort of early twentieth century revolutionary militarism and every-man grit of the theme.

I'm glad that the heroes have a theme with some grit and fire, a bite.

Following this statement, between 3:30-3:40, I enjoy the pounding drums and thundering brass - this reminded me very much of "Superman."

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5 hours ago, KK said:

 

Yup, pretty sure that was him.

 

For hornist, every Williams score that comes out is the greatest thing since sliced bread!

 

I wrote a long answer but deleted it and say just FUCK YOU and filmscore. Please try to do it by yourselves, it isn't that easy. :lol:

 

oh you may have tried😄

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Damien F said:

Having seen the movie, I'm certain the theme you describe as Militaristic Resistance’ theme is for Luke on the island. 

 

Thank you! I wasn't sure what to call it having not yet seen the film. :) 

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I would be more interested in having a debate as to whether, for example, 02 Ahch-To Island alludes to a fragment of Battle of the Heroes in the bass at 0:57, as I mentioned. That is far more subjective!

 

The referencing in Main Titles and Escape is blatant. Most definitely intentional, beyond doubt.

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Just now, RadJ said:

 

 

It could be intentional of course, I'm not saying it definitely isn't. I completely agree it sounds exactly like that bridge part of Battle of the Heroes.

 

So unless Williams suffered some temporary loss of agency while writing, it follows that he intended to reference BotH.

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Only three new themes. I hope Ep. 9 will be more melodious. I understand that new characters have not arrived to TLJ: no new characters what they deserve the theme, except for Rose. That's why Williams used only old famous themes and new action music. Finn's theme/Action motif is not on soundtrack. That's pity. I like it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Star_Wars#First_appearance_8

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19 minutes ago, Skywanker said:

Only three new themes. I hope Ep. 9 will be more melodious. I understand that new characters have not arrived to TLJ: no new characters what they deserve the theme, except for Rose. That's why Williams used only old famous themes and new action music. Finn's theme/Action motif is not on soundtrack. That's pity. I like it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Star_Wars#First_appearance_8

 

The source is HERE - JWFAN : D

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I cannot say anything as I haven't seen the movie yet. But the movie seems to have so many more characters (minus Han Solo) it was probably better to create less new themes and go with established ones. The flow of the album is much much better than TFA which was constantly starting and stopping and micro-mickey-mousing every silly detail instead of going into something simpler, but more effective.

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