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THE LAST JEDI - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album


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21 minutes ago, Jay said:

if anybody wants to say what music from the film they HOPE will be on the FYC album - WITHOUT SPOILING ANYTHING FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THE FILM YET, feel free to do so here.

 

I'd like the music from that scene where the guy did the thing.

 

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OK, the full rendition of Poe's Theme from the beginning would be nice - actually, the entire battle cue would be nice.

The Emperor's Theme when Snoke holds Rey up is something I really want.

Both of these are non-original, we'll see what the FYC's focus will be.

After the second viewing, I'm sure I'll want more.

 

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I just realized the FYC album will certainly open like the TFA FYC, with no main title but instead a clean opening of the first original score cue - primarily because the main title recording is from TFA!

 

But I think the FYC album ALSO can't include the piccolo solo from ANH like the OST does, which even though is a new recording, is old music.  It will probably begin right with the action material.  Hopefully, this first track will include the longer Poe's Theme that people say is edited out of the OST version.

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Rian Johnson tweeted that they did, but the actual OST album contains the TFA recording - and presumably the film itself does, too.

 

We now think Johnson was probably talking about the end credits opening in that tweet.  Who knows.

 

It's all being discussed in the score album music thread.

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3 hours ago, Jay said:

I just realized the FYC album will certainly open like the TFA FYC, with no main title but instead a clean opening of the first original score cue - primarily because the main title recording is from TFA!

 

But I think the FYC album ALSO can't include the piccolo solo from ANH like the OST does, which even though is a new recording, is old music.  It will probably begin right with the action material.  Hopefully, this first track will include the longer Poe's Theme that people say is edited out of the OST version.

The TFA FYC had old material too though. R1 only had stuff written by Williams cut out IIRC.

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I know that, I'm saying a potential TLJ FYC would ABSOLUTELY have to cut out the main titles, since it was't RECORDED for TLJ.  And I'm predicting it will cut out the piccolo bit, too.

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38 minutes ago, Jay said:

I know that, I'm saying a potential TLJ FYC would ABSOLUTELY have to cut out the main titles, since it was't RECORDED for TLJ.  And I'm predicting it will cut out the piccolo bit, too.

 

They could stick in the new recording, if it really exists, but I'd expect them to drop it regardless of which one gets used in the film, just cause it's substantively an old piece of music.

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32 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Wait? It wasn't recorded for TLJ? Johnson says it was.

 

 

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Rian Johnson tweeted that they did, but the actual OST album contains the TFA recording - and presumably the film itself does, too.

 

We now think Johnson was probably talking about the end credits opening in that tweet.  Who knows.

 

It's all being discussed in the score album music thread.

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8 hours ago, RadJ said:

I don't see how old themes can't be included in a FYC album considering there are plenty of scores submitted as FYC with ZERO themes, or basically just noise

 

Well the TFA FYC had the entire finale on it so...

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8 hours ago, RadJ said:

I don't see how old themes can't be included in a FYC album considering there are plenty of scores submitted as FYC with ZERO themes, or basically just noise

Old themes can, tracked music and music that is purely a new performance of an old composition with no new writing cannot. 

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It is important because it doesn't match the beautiful recording of the rest of the score. It has the dry, punchy brass of TFA whereas TLJ's mix was far heavier on the strings. Anyway, one of my few immediate disappoints in an otherwise great score. I'll keep it to the relevant threads from now on.

 

Just finished my first film viewing and first OST listen. Unlike TFA, I've got a very clear memory of what was in the film I really hoped would be on the OST.

 

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  • The Poe fanfare in the opening sequence, plus a lot of other cool action stuff in the opening
  • The Emperor's Theme as Snoke tortures Rey
  • The egregious microedits all across the last third of the score, notably the Snoke/Rey/Ren sequence and Phasma battle conclusion
  • Vice Admiral Holdo's sacrifice?? Is this included on the OST? Only listened once
  • I feel like some significant stuff with Rey and Luke is missing from the final few scenes. The "death" of Luke felt very different on album than it did in the film, where it was stunningly beautiful
  • There was a really fun cue in the casino (not the source music stuff) as Finn ran down the stairs and noticed the guy wearing the flower emblem; it sounded like a golden-age Hollywood reference and knew it wouldn't be on the OST as soon as I heard it :( 

 

On an unrelated note, I'm shocked the Empire tracking of Yoda's Theme was actually a new recording and even included twice on the OST. Did not see that coming!

 

 

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My gut feel is that the end credits suite is just an arrangement of existing material, which is seriously disappointing after Jedi Steps & Finale.

 

The film version is also definitely different from the OST version. Yoda's Theme did not appear in the end credits I saw theatrically.

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4 hours ago, king mark said:

is it 100% sure there will be an FYC.What if it's not elligible for Oscar why would they put one out in the first place?

 

Putting together an FYC is aspirational. Studios put it together in the hopes of getting an Oscar nomination. But the Academy can disqualify anyways, even if you make an FYC.

 

 

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Again, For Your Consideration albums are made to push for consideration in ALL awards, not JUST the Academy Awards.

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For Music I think it is mainly Oscars and Baftas. And honestly just the Oscars. The others don't matter at all. The others have no vetting standards or anything.  Arrival has nominated everywhere. Only the Academy disqualified it.

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On 12/15/2017 at 12:38 PM, TheUlyssesian said:

For Music I think it is mainly Oscars and Baftas. And honestly just the Oscars. The others don't matter at all. The others have no vetting standards or anything.  Arrival has nominated everywhere. Only the Academy disqualified it.

 

Good points.

 

I hope TFA gets one and I'm curious to see what's on it.

 

 

 

On 12/15/2017 at 12:41 PM, DominicCobb said:

But it's John Williams, though, right? 

 

What?

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Yeah I'm really perplexed about how they present this score with less reliance on existing themes. It feels like JW really wove the existing themes seamlessly throughout the entire score, so it will be hard to select cues that aren't affected by this.

 

I'm a little worried the FYC might be really short this time, like under an hour, to get around this problem.

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The eligibility factor is irrelevant to whether or not Disney produce an FYC. They're officially campaigning for the score to be considered in Best Original Score categories, so there will be an FYC.

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Yeah it didn't take long for TFA.

 

Oh yeah, can I add the superb Rey training montage to the wishlist? The cue where she cuts that rock in half with the saber? Stunning.

 

The whole damn score is incredible!

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I think there isn't going to be ANY chance that this gets nominated even.

It relies too much on previously released material (as I got from the album and i guess it's evident from the complete score too?).

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5 hours ago, Justanothercrow421 said:

When do they typically get released?

 

5 hours ago, someonefun124 said:

My guess is early next week.  TFA FYC was released shortly after release if I recall correctly.

 

4 hours ago, crumbs said:

Yeah it didn't take long for TFA.

 

 

Oi!

 

 

 

On 12/14/2017 at 11:24 AM, Jay said:

Hello,

 

The Force Awakens opened (in the US) on Friday, December 18th, 2015.

 

On Monday, December 21st, 2015, we discovered that Disney's Awards consideration side had added an album of score that could be streamed or download that was different than TFA's OST.  

 

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