Pieter Boelen 740 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 14-12-2017 at 5:24 PM, Jay said: FYC 05 Fun With Finn And Rose (3:03) OST equivalent: 05 Fun With Finn And Rose [0:25-end] (2:09) The OST from 0:00-0:25 contains the cue for Rose telling Finn about her sister, then realizing he's trying to escape and stuns him (it only contains the Paige story portion of the cue, though). This cue isn't on the FYC at all, so you'd need to break it out into its own track if you want to keep it (you can call it "You Are a Hero" or "That's a Real Hero". I wouldn't call it "Finn Meets Rose" though, because THAT cue comes before this one and isn't on the FYC or the OST at all). In the film, that cue segues immediately to the next cue, which covers which covers Finn and Rose coming up with their plan and telling it to Poe. This cue appears in full on the FYC track, while the OST version omits the opening minute due to it seguing from partway through the sister story cue to partway through the planning cue. So, Option 1 is to break out OST 0:00-0:25 into its own track, and then use FYC 05 for the next cue in its own track. Option 2 would be If you don't want to do WAV editing, then its a a personal preference if you rather use the OST track (Paige story opening -> incomplete planning cue) or the FYC track (no Paige story at all, but complete planning cue). I'm curious: Has anyone managed to combine the OST and FYC versions of that track in any way by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I tried but stopped. That first 25 seconds of the OST track is hard to isolate because the cues overlap. There might be another way of including it, just not sure yet. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, crumbs said: I tried but stopped. That first 25 seconds of the OST track is hard to isolate because the cues overlap. There might be another way of including it, just not sure yet. I think it might be more possible with a lossless source, which we don't have right now. EDIT: screw the tablet suggestions. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC4L 87 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Thank you for the combined playlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Anyone know where I can find an HD scan of the cover of the FYC OST (and, by any chance, HD scans of the covers for TFA and Rogue One as well)? Tiburon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 As far as we know, at this point nobody around here has had hands-on of the physical FYC for The Last Jedi or Rogue One. One person dug into their pockets for TFA, but I don't remember who that was. I don't know if they still post. If there's HQ art for that, I'd check the TFA FYC thread. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Alrighty, so here's a rough 1000x1000 FYC cover I made, using @Ports's TFA cover as a template: crumbs and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: I'm curious: Has anyone managed to combine the OST and FYC versions of that track in any way by any chance? You wouldn't really "combine" them, though. The first 25 seconds of the OST track is a totally different cue. You'd break it out into its own track. 5 hours ago, crumbs said: I tried but stopped. That first 25 seconds of the OST track is hard to isolate because the cues overlap. There might be another way of including it, just not sure yet. 5 hours ago, Gistech said: I think it might be more possible with a lossless source, which we don't have right now. How would a lossless FYC help with creating a fake ending of the cue that makes up the first 25 seconds of the OST track? 1 hour ago, mstrox said: One person dug into their pockets for TFA, but I don't remember who that was. I don't know if they still post. If there's HQ art for that, I'd check the TFA FYC thread. It was JWFan user @Zaralyth who bought it. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25940-the-force-awakens-for-your-consideration-fyc-album/&do=findComment&comment=1212844 Eventually many, many more turned up on ebay; I got mine for $40 I think. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jay said: You wouldn't really "combine" them, though. The first 25 seconds of the OST track is a totally different cue. You'd break it out into its own track. For correctness, they'd have to be separate tracks. But I personally wouldn't mind a clever combination of sorts instead. I gave it a quick try myself last week, but as you and others here said as well, that didn't work at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 It's probably better to just ignore the OST track for now, and use the FYC track as-is in a custom expanded score. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Jay said: How would a lossless FYC help with creating a fake ending of the cue that makes up the first 25 seconds of the OST track? You could use a 'knockout' plug in to remove the section that the FYC shares with the OST, but I think doing it with the MP3 one is going to leave something of a 'messy echo' (as I like to call it when it leaves distorted traces behind). If you had a lossless source, while you might not be able to knock it out entirely, there would be less 'messy' echo. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Ah, I getcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 It's a bit like trying to include the alternate OST opening for I Can Fly Anything into the FYC track, just doesn't really work. The best solution might be including OST track from 0:00 to 0:48, then transitioning into the similar strings ostinato that starts the FYC track. That way you repeat a small section of Rose's Theme but, as this is the first appearance of her theme in the score, it's actually a nice introductory reprise. I personally don't have an issue with JW's combined tracks unless they really mess with the chronology (Who Are You for example, which will definitely be broken up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, crumbs said: It's a bit like trying to include the alternate OST opening for I Can Fly Anything into the FYC track, just doesn't really work. The best solution might be including OST track from 0:00 to 0:48, then transitioning into the similar strings ostinato that starts the FYC track. That way you repeat a small section of Rose's Theme but, as this is the first appearance of her theme in the score, it's actually a nice introductory reprise. That's not a bad idea crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 12 hours ago, JohnSolo said: Alrighty, so here's a rough 1000x1000 FYC cover I made, using @Ports's TFA cover as a template: Looks nice, but I noticed that the text font/placement above the logo for TLJ is actually supposed to be slightly different than TFA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 13 hours ago, crumbs said: The best solution might be including OST track from 0:00 to 0:48, then transitioning into the similar strings ostinato that starts the FYC track. That way you repeat a small section of Rose's Theme but, as this is the first appearance of her theme in the score, it's actually a nice introductory reprise. I'd like to hear that. 13 hours ago, crumbs said: I personally don't have an issue with JW's combined tracks unless they really mess with the chronology (Who Are You for example, which will definitely be broken up). Maybe that was done because "Who Are You?" is relatively quiet and "Prison Escape" adds a more exciting ending to it? Combining them also adds Luke's Theme in a track related to him and Rey being on Ahch-To, which makes some sort of sense, I suppose. Also serves to confuse the listener and suggest story events that didn't quite occur that way in the film at all... crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 On 12/01/2018 at 12:12 AM, Remco said: Adding ‘Rey’s Journey’, ‘Holdo’s Resolve’ and having the FYC versions of ‘The Spark’ and ‘The Last Jedi’ really creates an awesome sequence of non-stop action material, holy crap. Just when you think you can’t have more orchestral stuff, Williams adds the choir to top it. It makes the whole thing feel much bigger than on the OST. Thanks for the tip, I'm gonna try this out. Remco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 26/12/2017 at 6:15 PM, Laserschwert said: I hope someone will manage to combine the differently edited versions of the cues that appear on both the OST and the FYC into longer (and more complete) tracks. Someone did it:LINK REMOVED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 It starts bad for a first post. Will and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 So much for good first impressions of this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 13 hours ago, GABRIEL BEZERRA said: Someone did it:LINK REMOVED That is an illegal bootlegging site and you're not allowed to link to it on our forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonspartax 3 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Maybe someone has already pointed this out but recently I went to see The Last Jedi again and noted this time that there is a ton of uses of Poe's theme that are not present on either the FYC soundtrack or the original. It's bizarre and I don't know why they weren't included. The most obvious use that I noticed every time I've seen the movie is when Poe is talking to BB-8 in his cockpit on the way to the dreadnought, it's a fun take on the theme. Then later when he is talking to Leia it plays again in a different tone. Williams being the master of this of course and it sounds great but like I mentioned, no where to be found in any recordings, sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost1 105 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Damn, late to the party and now the links don't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 There's always someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG-SI 10 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'm still in the woods with .... why so many "respected" members like TLJ (quotation marks intended) like the latest instalment of the movie... If you take away the StarWars labels... it is the one of the Shifulllness, storyless movie of the 21sth century. I saw the poll where JWfan mebers voted TLJ best SW movie... this poll tells A LOT of the people of this forum IQ. 10/5000 quotation marks ... This is beyond by respect for this people.. If you take out the STAR WARS complex it is one of the worst plotted movies of the modern history. Pieter Boelen, Darth Porkins, Holko and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, RadJ said: Damn, late to the party and now the links don't work The direct ZIP and MP3 links don't work anymore, BUT the MP3 files can be grabbed with a little effort using a file download manager, such as "DownThemAll!" in Firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 The links in the main post of this thread work for me (the second set), but only in Chrome. Try installing that to get the files right from Disney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, MAG-SI said: I'm still in the woods with .... why so many "respected" members like TLJ (quotation marks intended) like the latest instalment of the movie... If you take away the StarWars labels... it is the one of the Shifulllness, storyless movie of the 21sth century. I saw the poll where JWfan mebers voted TLJ best SW movie... this poll tells A LOT of the people of this forum IQ. 10/5000 quotation marks ... This is beyond by respect for this people.. If you take out the STAR WARS complex it is one of the worst plotted movies of the modern history. Everyone who doesn’t share my opinion has a low IQ!! Not Mr. Big, crumbs, Pieter Boelen and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, MAG-SI said: I'm still in the woods with .... why so many "respected" members like TLJ (quotation marks intended) like the latest instalment of the movie... If you take away the StarWars labels... it is the one of the Shifulllness, storyless movie of the 21sth century. I saw the poll where JWfan mebers voted TLJ best SW movie... this poll tells A LOT of the people of this forum IQ. 10/5000 quotation marks ... This is beyond by respect for this people.. If you take out the STAR WARS complex it is one of the worst plotted movies of the modern history. Go away. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Taikomochi said: Everyone who doesn’t share my opinion has a low IQ!! And they're not true fans either! Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, MAG-SI said: I'm still in the woods with .... why so many "respected" members like TLJ (quotation marks intended) like the latest instalment of the movie... If you take away the StarWars labels... it is the one of the Shifulllness, storyless movie of the 21sth century. I saw the poll where JWfan mebers voted TLJ best SW movie... this poll tells A LOT of the people of this forum IQ. 10/5000 quotation marks ... This is beyond by respect for this people.. If you take out the STAR WARS complex it is one of the worst plotted movies of the modern history. Come into my arms, friend! No, joking aside ... If you take out the verbatim quotes from previous films, TLJ score would be dull as dishwater, and rank amongst the most boring of modern John Williams. The story of the movie is a pile of something with or without Star Wars in the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Still, we're lucky that JW didn't quote the Superman theme when Leia fly in the space. igger6 and gkgyver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost1 105 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 14 hours ago, MAG-SI said: I'm still in the woods with .... why so many "respected" members like TLJ (quotation marks intended) like the latest instalment of the movie... If you take away the StarWars labels... it is the one of the Shifulllness, storyless movie of the 21sth century. I saw the poll where JWfan mebers voted TLJ best SW movie... this poll tells A LOT of the people of this forum IQ. 10/5000 quotation marks ... This is beyond by respect for this people.. If you take out the STAR WARS complex it is one of the worst plotted movies of the modern history. OK dude Not Mr. Big and Falstaft 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 @MAG-SI TSMefford and Not Mr. Big 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Arpy said: @MAG-SI Seconded! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted January 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2018 The Las 19 hours ago, MAG-SI said: I'm still in the woods with .... why so many "respected" members like TLJ (quotation marks intended) like the latest instalment of the movie... If you take away the StarWars labels... it is the one of the Shifulllness, storyless movie of the 21sth century. I saw the poll where JWfan mebers voted TLJ best SW movie... this poll tells A LOT of the people of this forum IQ. 10/5000 quotation marks ... This is beyond by respect for this people.. If you take out the STAR WARS complex it is one of the worst plotted movies of the modern history. The Last Jedi was good as hell! crumbs, Smaug The Iron and Jost1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It was just "good". It lacks the polish and the propulsion to make it anything more than that. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It appears that Chen and I have different opinions, about the level of goodness, of The Last Jedi! Jost1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Chen G. said: It was just "good". It lacks the polish and the propulsion to make it anything more than that. Do you understand the concept of "opinion"? Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I understand the concept of fanboy. Which people who rave about TLJ generally are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 If I enjoyed movies out of a blind devotion to a fandom, I would have liked the prequels (which were “bad as shit”) and not just the sequels/spin-offs (which thus far range from “pretty good” to “good as hell”). Not Mr. Big and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Heck, you'd probably even enjoy the Holdiay Special! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Ohhhhh man, that was a once and done for me. An hour of boring untranslated Wookiee grumbling isn’t worth my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I think I never watched it completely. I'm not a fan boy anymore since 1983... okay, let's be honnest... 1989 (BATMAN!!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 21.1.2018 at 1:59 PM, Taikomochi said: Everyone who doesn’t share my opinion has a low IQ!! Why can't trolls be marked somehow. Jay could make their profile names appear in green, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Think of how nice the name “Stefancos” would look in a nice kelly green! Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I am not a troll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 That’s exactly what a troll would say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 No, if trolls are in green, then spambots would be in blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 No, the spambots are already in red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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