The Last Jedi THE LAST JEDI - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album

[TheForkAwakens 1]

19 hours ago, Jay said:

Here's a new C&C order I threw together quickly

 

What is a "C&C"?

 

Is there a way to get the other FYC soundtracks from that Disney page?

 

I'm also interested in past FYC music.

[Holko 11,185]

2 minutes ago, TheForkAwakens said:

 

What is a "C&C"?

 

 

Complete & Chronological

 

This is an improper use, since what we have is still very far from being complete, it rather refers to the fact that it uses everything we have.

[TheForkAwakens 1]

Thank you.

[Steve H 35]

I was sure the quote of the Emporers Theme would show up in the expanded version of A New Alliance but alas no.

[Bryant Burnette 747]

That is a shame; that's a righteous little statement of that theme.

[aj_vader 573]

Has anyone heard anything as to why that theme was in there?

[Chewy 2,658]

Huh, I just think he used it because this scene is very similar to the emperor scene in ROTJ.

 

And by the way, I don't think it would be worth to start working on an edit using those 192k mp3 files, let's wait for the lossless version (which we'll hopefully get one day).

[Giftheck 1,070]

We got lucky with TFA. Rogue One's FYC still hasn't leaked in lossless (with the intact ending of "Today Of All Days"). I wouldn't expect a leak of TLJ's FYC for a while.

[crumbs 15,365]

So my first edit of Main Title and Escape has come to 10:32. And to echo my earlier thoughts, the track is an absolute mess.

 

Unfortunately it appears whatever Williams scored earlier in the year was drastically re-edited, and the statement of Poe's Theme was possibly an insert that replaced the cool March of the Resistance section at 3:02 on the OST track.

 

Anyway, I've combined the two tracks as best I can but it's impossible to recreate whatever Williams' original intention was with the two sources we have.

[Bryant Burnette 747]

I don't mind any of these issues.  Something to look forward to when the eventual complete version is rolled out.  I just hope it doesn't take thirty years.

[Knight of Ren 1,210]

I have listened to the full FYC album and I really like the expanded bits in Escape, A New Alliance, The Last Jedi and The Spark. But I don't really understand why they have make such a chaotic edit in for example Escape.

 

I also really like the new tracks like Admiral Holdo, Rey's Journey or Holdo Resolve, but it's a shame that we don't have the Rey training cue or the bit of the Emperor theme.

 

Anyway, I will try to edit both albums to create something like a film version.

[CGCJ 519]

All tracks on the FYC are the exact edits from the film. So if Escape is such a mess its only because that's how it is in the film. I don't really see what the problem is with that track, honestly.

[thx99 1,928]

1 hour ago, TheForkAwakens said:

Is there a way to get the other FYC soundtracks from that Disney page?

 

I'm also interested in past FYC music.

 

 

[crumbs 15,365]

19 minutes ago, CGCJ said:

All tracks on the FYC are the exact edits from the film. So if Escape is such a mess its only because that's how it is in the film. I don't really see what the problem is with that track, honestly.

 

I guess we're looking at it from the perspective that it would be nice to assemble a 'complete' version of the opening cues, but sadly the OST is microedited and the film version is edited/tracked to death.

 

So we're stuck with two alternative edited versions of the track, but neither is definitive (and both contain things the other version doesn't).

 

@Jay is it against board rules to post Clyps of FYC/OST edits?

[Bespin Copilot 9,380]

10 hours ago, Jay said:

Here's a new C&C order I threw together quickly

 

Thanks as usual for you work @Jay.

 

Will you also post your suggested expanded playlist (without editing)?

[Pieter Boelen 906]

For all it's worth, there is some discussion about this here too: http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=55471&expand=1

The first post there contains a brief overview of what is included on the FYC.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,759]

Filmtracks! Urgh....

[Bespin Copilot 9,380]

Buy it... or Avoid it!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,759]

The thought of having vermin from that place visiting here makes my skin crawl.

[Pieter Boelen 906]

It's the other way around. Sometimes random people post interesting recommendations on there, so I occasionally have a look.

Good thing too! I discovered "Fort Ross" that way, which I like quite a bit. 

[Balahkay 629]

I was under the impression that the FYC had to present the music exactly as it's heard in the film with all the edits but I guess it just needs to contain only music heard in the film regardless of how it's edited on the FYC.... except the Escape opening wasn't in the movie as I recall.  FYC Escape is a mess and didn't sound like that in the film.  I love the rest, though.  I think this score is a strong contender for a nomination.

[Bespin Copilot 9,380]

They will never give JW an Oscar for his last but one Star Wars.

 

Maybe for his last... If he of course wrote Episode IX.

[Balahkay 629]

Yeah, there's no way he's winning an Oscar for TLJ or The Post but nomination(s), yes.

[mstrox 7,136]

36 minutes ago, Bespin said:

They will never give JW an Oscar for his last but one Star Wars.

 

Maybe for his last... If he of course wrote Episode XIX.

 

If Williams makes it to Episode XIX, he should win a Nobel Prize for medicine.

[TheUlyssesian 2,590]

Williams will never win an oscar again.

[p0llux 432]

The FYC escape doesn't have the altered resistance theme from the OST escape. And the OST escape doesn't have Poe's theme. so annoying.

[Taikomochi 1,319]

I wonder if that awesome rendition of the Resistance theme not heard in the film was replaced by the Poe’s theme rendition and therefore an alternate rather than just something that was cut.

[Bespin Copilot 9,380]

I prefer the End Credits on the FYC album, i.e. without Yoda's Theme.

 

The only End Credits allowed to include Yoda's Theme is ESB.

[bondo 33]

Does anyone have a breakdown of what the combined OST + FYC versions of "Main Titles/Escape" would look like?

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

Is it just me, or do those two horn chords at the beginning of "Escape" (like, a couple seconds in) sound really fake/sample-y...? Also the horns and woodwinds around 0:24.

 

6 hours ago, Knight of Ren said:

But I don't really understand why they have make such a chaotic edit in for example Escape.

 

Because that's how it is in the film.

[Jorah the Andal 2]

17 hours ago, Jay said:

 

There is not theme for Holdo IMO, just more of a general "Resistance in trouble" motif.  

 

It can be heard on the OST at:

01 Escape 6:15-7:08

15 Chrome Dome 0:25-0:35

20 Finale 5:47-6:25

 

It can be heard on the FYC at:

01 Escape 6:12-6:53

14 Holdo's Resolve 1:37-2:12

15 Chrome Dome 0:25-0:32

Thanks!

[Chewy 2,658]

Here's my attempt at combining the OST & FYC versions of the track "Escape" so that it sounds a bit less messy and repetitive:

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UNj2eNrYbEadl9d0v7MVMjBITIy_l4_n

[leeallen01 2,188]

Just randomly stumbled upon this interview. 2:45 shows just how much of a Williams fan Seth is.

 

 

[mstrox 7,136]

5 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

Williams will never win an oscar again.

 

There is a near 100% chance that Williams, the most nominated person alive, will receive a Lifetime Achievement Oscar. 

[Pieter Boelen 906]

1 hour ago, Chewy said:

Here's my attempt at combining the OST & FYC versions of the track "Escape" so that it sounds a bit less messy and repetitive:

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UNj2eNrYbEadl9d0v7MVMjBITIy_l4_n

Pretty good one, that!

Of course the first really cool bit of "March of the Resistance" isn't there, but @Taikomochi already said that would be really difficult to keep.

Hopefully you (or someone else?) does find a way though, one way or another.

And in the meantime, this one does quite nicely.

[Chewy 2,658]

I think that "March of the Resistance" bit was replaced by "Poe's Theme" in the movie.

[Pieter Boelen 906]

Makes sense, I suppose. Also explains why "Poe's Theme" wasn't on the OST there, despite standing out very clearly in the film.

 

Is there a way to make the same track you did, but with "March of the Resistance" in place instead?

Hearing them both, I think I prefer that bit from the OST because it is much more different from TFA than that statement of "Poe's Theme".

 

But of course... If anyone does find some clever way to have the cake and eat it too, consider me interested!

[Will 2,292]

FYC sounds awesome!!

 

I will say, though, I was rather shocked by "Escape." I hadn't had the chance to hear the opening few minutes of that sequence when I was doing my breakdown, so it was quite a surprise to hear what a mess there was!

[John 2,032]

The FYC version of "Canto Bight" is a bit of a mess as well.

[Taikomochi 1,319]

I prefer the March of the Resistance statement to Poe’s theme there. I will probably just leave it there in my edit.

[TheUlyssesian 2,590]

1 hour ago, mstrox said:

There is a near 100% chance that Williams, the most nominated person alive, will receive a Lifetime Achievement Oscar. 

 

From your mouth to god's ear. But based on the recent pattern of winners AND Williams' age, I'd bet against it.

[Smaug The Iron 616]

Is it just me or do I hear Leia’s theme at 2.16 in Escape FYC?

[John 2,032]

1 minute ago, Smaug the iron said:

Is it just me or do I hear Leia’s theme at 2.16 in Escape FYC?

 

It's pretty subtle, but yeah, I hear it too.

[Jay 41,649]

13 hours ago, leeallen01 said:

I thought it was pretty obviously connected to her, considering the two main places I remember hearing it in the film are when Holdo says goodbye to Leia and stays behind on the ship, and then when she rams the First Order in lightspeed. 

 

But its introduction in "Escape" is well before we've even been introduced to Holdo at all.

 

And her two big speeches are scored with the Resistance March, and not this theme.

 

 

12 hours ago, TheForkAwakens said:

What is a "C&C"?

 

My bad!  "C&C" means "Complete and Chronological", though that wasn't the right term for what I was doing; It's just a playlist of the OST with some FYC tracks mixed in, I corrected my post.

 

 

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Is there a way to get the other FYC soundtracks from that Disney page?

 

Yes.  See here.

 

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I'm also interested in past FYC music.

 

Disney removes it from their website sometime between when this award season is over and they are setting up their servers for the next awards season, so nothing from prior years will be online any more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, crumbs said:

@Jay is it against board rules to post Clyps of FYC/OST edits?

Of course not!  People embed youtube / soundcloud / clyp / vimeo / etc links all the time.  We just can't host copyrighted music on our own servers.

[King Mark 3,805]

1 hour ago, Pieter_Boelen said:

Pretty good one, that!

Of course the first really cool bit of "March of the Resistance" isn't there, but @Taikomochi already said that would be really difficult to keep.

Hopefully you (or someone else?) does find a way though, one way or another.

And in the meantime, this one does quite nicely.

 

I like it

 

did you keep all the music except the march of the resistance bit or you had to trim other stuff?

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

20 hours ago, Jay said:

 

There is not theme for Holdo IMO, just more of a general "Resistance in trouble" motif.  

 

It can be heard on the OST at:

01 Escape 6:15-7:08

15 Chrome Dome 0:25-0:35

20 Finale 5:47-6:25

 

It can be heard on the FYC at:

01 Escape 6:12-6:53

14 Holdo's Resolve 1:37-2:12

15 Chrome Dome 0:25-0:32

 

Call me crazy, but I don't hear anything remotely like that theme/motif in "Escape"... I assume you're talking about the "Battle of the Heroes"-esque bit? I just don't see how that's at all related to the theme heard in those other tracks.

[Arpy 4,178]

No, not that bit. Listen to the other references first then maybe it'll be easier for you to pick out. It reminds me a bit of something from Nixon.

[Jay 41,649]

I dunno, sounds like the same theme to me, like with a different ending kinda - but I certainly could be wrong

[Chewy 2,658]

9 minutes ago, king mark said:

 

I like it

 

did you keep all the music except the march of the resistance bit or you had to trim other stuff?

 

Parts I didn't use:

• Resistance bit in the OST 3:02-3:16
• FYC 0:00-0:21
• FYC 0:46-1:45

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

14 minutes ago, Arpy said:

No, not that bit. Listen to the other references first then maybe it'll be easier for you to pick out. It reminds me a bit of something from Nixon.

 

I've listened to those parts, and recognize those as all being the same theme... (And yes, "Nixon" is definitely what comes to mind.) But I'm still not hearing it in "Escape". Would you happen to have a timestamp that points to exactly what you're referring to? @Jay's timestamps are for the "Battle of the Heroes" part.