#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,521 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Rian's film has the sensibilities of the Prequels, but its much better directed. He's actually a logical successor to Lucas. artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 573 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 The music is secondary. Story is more important. A shitty movie can have a decent soundtrack, but the movie still won't be worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 1,130 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 56 minutes ago, Demodex said: The music is secondary. Story is more important. A shitty movie can have a decent soundtrack, but the movie still won't be worth watching. I don't think the same. Just look at The Phantom Menace. It was, let's say, not that great, but the soundtrack made it 10 times better. Sometimes a soundtrack is the only thing that makes a movie watchable (at least for me). Pieter Boelen and justaguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,598 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Nothing on the web site yet Obi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 415 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Haha I've been obsessively checking it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,521 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Fanboy entitlement. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Bilbo and A. A. Ron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,598 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Well, I would suggest that since if you plug any random characters after the base URL you get an empty page like this: http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/music http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/williams http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/sadfsafcdsacwacgbcxvbcx BUT if you use "score" you get a different page: http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/score Is a good indication that a page is coming, its just not live yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Demodex said: The music is secondary. Story is more important. A shitty movie can have a decent soundtrack, but the movie still won't be worth watching. Or as Bernard Herrmann put it: you can't revive a corpse, but you can dress it up nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Jay said: Well, I would suggest that since if you plug any random characters after the base URL you get an empty page like this: http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/music http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/zxvczxvc http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/sadfsafcdsacwacgbcxvbcx BUT if you use "score" you get a different page: http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/score Is a good indication that a page is coming, its just not live yet. There has been an uploading... Have you felt it? Incanus and Henry Sítrónu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,598 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 I imagine the mp3 files and the page itself will be uploaded at the same time, so URL fiddling is probably useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,780 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 For all we know, the guy who's supposed to upload the FYC has pulled a sickie today. crumbs and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,598 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 There's endless possibilities of why its not up yet. The only reason we predicted possibly this afternoon was due to TFA's schedule. Maybe we should have looked at Rogue One's schedule instead. EDIT : LOL, Rogue One's FYC went up the same day the film opened. Damien F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,953 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Maybe JW is having a hard time finding music that meets the requirements and he's too embarrassed to send Disney the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I'm reliably informed that Williams himself snuck into Disney's headquarters (Walt Disney World, Japan) and erased the master tapes of the score. He's simply too ashamed of all the reused music. That's why Disney have scrapped any plans to release an FYC. Ollie and artguy360 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ollie 1,219 Posted December 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2017 Disney executive: “sir shouldn’t we upload the FYC tracks to website? Williams: “No, thats just what they’re expecting us to do.....” bollemanneke, Pieter Boelen, John and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,745 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Does JW have any say about what makes the FYC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Williams: Let the hate flow through them... It was I who allowed the reuse of TIE Fighter Attack during the Battle of Crait! Soon the master tapes will be crushed and that shall be the end of their pitiful complaints about reusing Binary Sunset! Ludwig and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,780 Posted December 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2017 31 minutes ago, crumbs said: I'm reliably informed that Williams himself snuck into Disney's headquarters (Walt Disney World, Japan) and erased the master tapes of the score. He's simply too ashamed of all the reused music. That's why Disney have scrapped any plans to release an FYC. Shocking images have leaked from Disney's CCTV system. DolceMecha, Taikomochi, Bilbo and 18 others 8 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,598 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,179 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Mission Impossible: Rogue One. That explains the deleted scene of Jyn reading all the file names; "Black Sabre, Pax Aurora, Stardust, Williams Masters." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 He also burnt the OT master tapes while he was at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,179 Posted December 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2017 Scene at Disney shareholders meeting now... Obi, Pieter Boelen and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,780 Posted December 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2017 The Last Jedi is eligible for an Academy Award https://www.soundtrack.net/news/article/?id=2509 crumbs, John, Will and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,598 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Superb news. They probably submitted a breakdown of new vs old material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 529 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 lol, Beauty and the Beast. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,780 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, lemoncurd said: lol, Beauty and the Beast. Good point. How could that possibly not be considered "diluted by the use of preexisting music". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,598 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 It seems guaranteed we're getting an FYC album, we just don't know when. Anything on eBay yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 From memory we saw an image of the disc before the website uploaded the FYC for TFA, so hopefully they've just been mailed out (given the official soundtrack has been released). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 So disappointing Dunkirk is eligible. It will probably win now over other actual scores. Pieter Boelen, ocelot, airmanjerm and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,598 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 What reason would Dunkirk have for not being eligible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I think Nimrod plays for like 20 minutes. And because it is the only melody in the film, it has the most impact on audiences and if they remember any music, it will be this. By the academy's own criteria, that is diluting and should have been disqualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 It would be funny if it doesn't even get nominated. There's zero hype for Dunkirk, they released it at the wrong time of year for awards consideration IMO. Double nomination for Mr. Williams please, Academy! As a 40th Anniversary to the original showdown, Star Wars vs Close Encounters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,953 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I can see The Post being nominated for an Oscar, but right now I can't see TLJ unless academy members end up really high on the film itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Well the music branch determines the nominees. They might just see fit to reward Williams with a double nomination knowing he'll never win the Oscar itself. Basically an acknowledgement from the Academy that everyone is so appreciative that he's still doing these heavy action films, not to mention writing such energetic and vigorous music that puts composers half his age to shame. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, TheUlyssesian said: I think Nimrod plays for like 20 minutes. And because it is the only melody in the film, it has the most impact on audiences and if they remember any music, it will be this. By the academy's own criteria, that is diluting and should have been disqualified. Elgar's Nimrod - make that Wallfisch and Zimmer's kaleidoscoped version of Elgar's Nimrod - plays for 8 minutes total in the film. The two other primary, very minimal motives that make up the score seem cleverly derived from lines in the Elgar piece, and the melody has a ghostly presence in many cues that are not noticed without close, thoughtful, repeated listening. It is curious to me that this hasn't been deemed unacceptable by the Academy, but then, I don't know precisely what their standards are. Suffice it to say that while Elgar is a memorable component of the score which does suffuse it to a large degree, its use is often subliminal and in the two big moments quite altered, so this is apparently enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justanothercrow421 126 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I hope we get an extended "Chrome Dome." I loved that scene and would love the full extended cue (even if it's just a bit). Bummed we won't seem to get anything tonight, but I'm hopeful that we'll get an upload of the FYC sometime this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, crumbs said: It would be funny if it doesn't even get nominated. There's zero hype for Dunkirk, they released it at the wrong time of year for awards consideration IMO. What are you saying. It has tons of hype and will be nominated across the board. Nolan's the favorite to win best Director and the film itself is very much in the hunt to win best picture. And maybe win a slew of other categories. By all means it is going to do very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Guess we'll find out soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,917 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Justanothercrow421 said: I hope we get an extended "Chrome Dome." I loved that scene and would love the full extended cue (even if it's just a bit). It seems that http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/music actually leads to a page with a photo of Leia on it. Maybe we'll get an upload of the FYC tonight? Same picture as on the “Synopsis” page minus the text. All the other Disney films use the “/score” link so likely that’ll be it, rather than “/music”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justanothercrow421 126 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, thx99 said: Same picture as on the “Synopsis” page minus the text. All the other Disney films use the “/score” link so likely that’ll be it, rather than “/music”. Yea for some reason I just tried it again and got different results. I figure you're right about it being under "/score" though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 1,130 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: What are you saying. It has tons of hype and will be nominated across the board. Nolan's the favorite to win best Director and the film itself is very much in the hunt to win best picture. And maybe win a slew of other categories. By all means it is going to do very well. Nolan will probably at least be nominated for Best Director. And TLJ will probably compete against this, Blade Runner 2049 and maybe even The Shape of Water in Best Cinematography category. They all look amazing! While I like the score of Dunkirk within the movie, I would prefer another score to win the Best Original Score category, but who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Knight of Ren said: Nolan will probably at least be nominated for Best Director. And TLJ will probably compete against this, Blade Runner 2049 and maybe even The Shape of Water in Best Cinematography category. They all look amazing! While I like the score of Dunkirk within the movie, I would prefer another score to win the Best Original Score category, but who knows... I don't think TLJ has any chance in cinematography. It's best bets are VFX, Sound and of course Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Really looking forward to the complete opener, which I think has enough new material, without relying on existing themes, to be presented on the FYC. It's a fantastic action track to really grab people's attention too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 1,130 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, TheUlyssesian said: I don't think TLJ has any chance in cinematography. It's best bets are VFX, Sound and of course Williams. I don't know, it had some really beautiful shots, so I think there might a little chance of the nomination, but not for the Award itself. VFX and the more technical categories are always the Star Wars bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The Canto Bight scenes weren't exactly good examples of Visual Effects, too noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,791 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Yes. Either that, or Johnson would digitally downgrade some shots in an attempt to "hide" the special effects. When they were outdoors, I just about could not see a bloody thing even though I was sitting pretty out front in the theater. And yes, it was in 2D. Oh, and shots of special effects aren't cinematography. There's no camera there, and therefore no planning and no ingenuity required to construct a good long take or compose a dense wide shot. You can praise the choices, but not the camerawork itself, because there is none. It could still be nominated (look at Avatar), but it would be a disgrace to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,521 Posted December 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2017 It absolutely IS cinematography. There's no difference in the way shots are conceived. Bilbo, DominicCobb, Tiburon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,791 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The camera is those CG spacebattles is a virtual one. You can put it where-ever you want with no difficulty, you can populate the frame around the camera angle you selected anyway you want. No thought-process and no dexterity is required to find a way to technically get the cameramen to where they need to be. It doesn't count. I can appreciate the intenion behind the visuals, but not the way in which they are obtained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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