Bryant Burnette 714 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Animated films have cinematographers and directors of photography. So somebody out there hiring filmmaking professionals thinks it's roughly equivalent at the least. DominicCobb and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,521 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 375 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Someone has to think up how the shot will be framed and how the (virtual) camera moves around the environment. The job of the DP and cinematographer might be slightly different between live action and animated pictures but id think they are largely the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 1,130 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I think is included in Cinematography, but I was saying that it could get a nomination. Anyway, I think this is the year of Roger Deakins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,953 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 As far as Oscars are concerned, I don't think it will ever be the year of Roger Deakins. I think he'll receive some kind of non-competitive award in the future, like a lifetime achievement award of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC4L 89 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 12 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: So disappointing Dunkirk is eligible. It will probably win now over other actual scores. Just watched this tonight. What a steaming pile of flaming feces. Wow, was it bad. And people want Nolan to direct a Star Wars film? GROSS! TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,517 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 But it gets 5 stars everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC4L 89 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Quintus said: But it gets 5 stars everywhere! Nolan fanboys are as bad as DC fanboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,517 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 DC movies have their fanboys too do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 45 minutes ago, FC4L said: Nolan fanboys are as bad as DC fanboys. They are worse. 2 hours ago, greenturnedblue said: Someone has to think up how the shot will be framed and how the (virtual) camera moves around the environment. The job of the DP and cinematographer might be slightly different between live action and animated pictures but id think they are largely the same Framing and camera movement is director. With consultation from DP. DP of course mainly does lighting and color grading and VFX integration etc. 4 hours ago, Chen G. said: Yes. Either that, or Johnson would digitally downgrade some shots in an attempt to "hide" the special effects. When they were outdoors, I just about could not see a bloody thing even though I was sitting pretty out front in the theater. And yes, it was in 2D. Oh, and shots of special effects aren't cinematography. There's no camera there, and therefore no planning and no ingenuity required to construct a good long take or compose a dense wide shot. You can praise the choices, but not the camerawork itself, because there is none. It could still be nominated (look at Avatar), but it would be a disgrace to do so. Avatar is absolutely an animated film. It is like Wall-E, an animated film with some live action elements. It wasn't shot on Pandora with Navi. It was shot in a blue room. It's cinematography Oscar win is outrageous. It won the VFX Oscar too. It basically won 2 different categories for the same thing. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Still nothing on the FYC website, still no physical copies on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Balahkay 629 Posted December 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2017 Holko, Will and Smeltington 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,920 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 This is all Jay’s fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 40,599 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Maybe the guy in charge of the website is on vacation until after Christmas Damien F and Obi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justanothercrow421 126 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Breathe....just breathe. It'll likely be out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 They're running out of time for the branch to consider the score for a nomination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Well its entirely possible they mailed out physical discs to voters last week or even earlier, and they just haven't turned up on ebay yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,272 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 If I recall correctly, they did not turn up on eBay for a couple weeks after the site went live last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 That's how I remember it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 409 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Ludwig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,179 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 This will cheer you all up. Will and DarthDementous 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 1,130 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Oddly satisfying... Why they don't dance at the same time? DolceMecha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmanjerm 83 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 13 hours ago, Jay said: Maybe the guy in charge of the website is on vacation until after Christmas There could also be some sort of delay because the OST only hit shelves about four days ago. I know the physical promo disks only get out to a select group, but having it available on the website could be seen as a potential hindrance to sales - especially considering the high profile of a Williams/SW score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,829 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 There would be no problems with your reasoning if the OST wasn't available to listen on Youtube completely free by Disney themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,768 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 well this isn't reassuring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,920 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Holko said: There would be no problems with your reasoning if the OST wasn't available to listen on Youtube completely free by Disney themselves. This is standard practice these days. Anyway, they’d surely link to the videos on the FYC page is they were only using the OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 59 minutes ago, king mark said: well this isn't reassuring Yeah... Maybe it is time to give up hope. No FYC this time! Oh well, we can still wait for the Blu-Ray release for some unreleased music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,793 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Holko said: There would be no problems with your reasoning if the OST wasn't available to listen on Youtube completely free by Disney themselves. Same as TFA and RO. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Oh FYC, where art thou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmanjerm 83 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Holko said: There would be no problems with your reasoning if the OST wasn't available to listen on Youtube completely free by Disney themselves. More wishful thinking than anything! 😄👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 9 hours ago, airmanjerm said: There could also be some sort of delay because the OST only hit shelves about four days ago. I know the physical promo disks only get out to a select group, but having it available on the website could be seen as a potential hindrance to sales - especially considering the high profile of a Williams/SW score. I once again have to quote the first post of this thread On 12/14/2017 at 11:24 AM, Jay said: Hello, The Force Awakens opened (in the US) on Friday, December 18th, 2015. On Monday, December 21st, 2015, we discovered that Disney's Awards consideration side had added an album of score that could be streamed or download that was different than TFA's OST. and this time I'll add On 12/18/2017 at 4:28 PM, Jay said: Rogue One's FYC went up the same day the film opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Is there a deadline for when an FYC can be released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,521 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Oh no! Disney have changed their strategy! What does this mean? Sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,272 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Honestly, I’d guess the FYC isn’t going to be put online, and we’ll just have to wait a month or around there for the pressed discs to show up online. Which is fine with my because I don’t really want Star Wars in 192 kbps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, someonefun124 said: Is there a deadline for when an FYC can be released? Here are this year's relevant dates: Friday, January 5, 2018 Nominations voting opens Friday, January 12, 2018 Nominations voting closes Tuesday, January 23, 2018 Oscar Nominations Announcement Monday, February 5, 2018 Oscar Nominees Luncheon Saturday, February 10, 2018 Scientific and Technical Awards Tuesday, February 20, 2018 Finals voting opens Tuesday, February 27, 2018 Finals voting closes Wednesday, February 28, 2018 The Oscars Concert Sunday, March 4, 2018 90th Oscars So really they just need to get these albums in the hands of the music branch nominee-voters by Jan 5th-ish, and if it is one of the 5 scores nominated, after the 23rd there could be a new push to get the album in the hands of all voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Awesome, thanks for the breakdown of dates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 A note - most members vote as soon as the window opens. So actually the album needs to be in the hand of members of the music branch much before or maybe right about now. So that they can listen to it and appreciate it and then come 5th Jan they vote for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 Right, that's what I meant. I should have typed "Jan 5th by the absolute latest". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 What if they don't receive it by then? Less likely for a nomination? I imagine they've already seen the movie and heard the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 1,130 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jay said: Right, that's what I meant. I should have typed "Jan 5th by the absolute latest". There is still more than two weeks to go. Let's keep our faith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 I never lost faith; The fact that /score redirects to a different page than /anythingelse is a clear indication to me the page is forthcoming, they just haven't "flipped the switch" yet. airmanjerm and Damien F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, someonefun124 said: What if they don't receive it by then? Less likely for a nomination? I imagine they've already seen the movie and heard the music. The Oscars are very political. All manner of lobbying takes place. I think Disney is obviously going to have to spend some monies in winning and dining various branches based on what they hope to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,768 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Taikomochi said: Honestly, I’d guess the FYC isn’t going to be put online, and we’ll just have to wait a month or around there for the pressed discs to show up online. Which is fine with my because I don’t really want Star Wars in 192 kbps someone has to manage to buy it and share it though .We were extremely lucky it happened last year And my I remind you we don't have the BFG FYC yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 Last year? Rogue One? A lossless rip was never shared of that that I know of. Or do you mean two years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, Jay said: Last year? Rogue One? A lossless rip was never shared of that that I know of. But there were there actually CDs sent to voters for that one? Never saw it on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,599 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 Oh, was there never any on ebay? I didn't really like that score so didn't really follow the FYC much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thx99 1,917 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Oh, was there never any on ebay? I didn't really like that score so didn't really follow the FYC much. eBay link taken from your December 27, 2016 post, Jay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/122286201810 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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