The Last Jedi Where do you rank the score for "The Last Jedi"?

[John 2,033]

Where do you rank John Williams' music for "The Last Jedi" among his previous scores for the 'Star Wars' films?

[Lewya 361]

It is probably the weakest Star Wars score written by John Williams. Attack of the Clones, The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi are the three weakest ones by far.

[Ricard 2,441]

I think a score needs repeated listening (in its complete/expanded form, if possible) AND the passage of time in order to be properly compared with an older work.

[Bofur01 247]

I’d probably rank it below RoTS but above AotC. There’s some great highlights, but I thought the action music was a bit fragmented, and the force theme a bit too prevalent.

[Brundlefly 2,400]

9 minutes ago, Bofur01 said:

I’d probably rank it below RoTS but above AotC. There’s some great highlights, but I thought the action music was a bit fragmented, and the force theme a bit too prevalent.

That is what bothers me most.

 

10 minutes ago, Rick said:

I think a score needs repeated listening (in its complete/expanded form, if possible) AND the passage of time in order to be properly compared with an older work.

You're right...

13 minutes ago, Lewya said:

It is probably the weakest Star Wars score written by John Williams. Attack of the Clones, The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi are the three weakest ones by far.

...but I think at least that can already be said.

[King Mark 3,896]

I think it ranks above some other ones but I need more time and unreleased music to see where it fits.

 

I like it a lot better than Force Awakens right off the bat though, and it could beat some of the Prequels. The action music is above the Grevious stuff in RotS and Coruscant Chase in AotC.  The Rathiers seems right out of the Temple of Doom era

[Ollie 1,356]

Until we get the complete score it’s the 7th best, if you count Rogue One, TLJ is the 8th best score.

[crocodile 9,403]

5 minutes ago, El Jefe said:

Until we get the complete score it’s the 7th best, if you count Rogue One, TLJ is the 8th best score.

 

Oh, such spunk!

 

 

Karol

[Ollie 1,356]

much like Rey, I remain defiant!

[filmmusic 2,784]

Definitely his weakest one for me (and I'm not changing my mind).

I have listened to the album too many times already to be certain of my opinion.

[King Mark 3,896]

I dunno, the action cues have an energy I haven't heard since the pre-Jurassic Park era

 

The quiet dialogue underscore was dialed down in the film i couldn't hear some of it. Maybe there's some good stuff

[BloodBoal 7,545]

[crocodile 9,403]

7 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

It's the best Star Wars score from 2017.

It is also at the very least the second best John Williams score of 2017.

 

Karol

[Obi 409]

Too soon to tell ! But it's better than AOTC.

 

 

[p0llux 434]

Original trilogy and tpm are better so I put it at 5th. I gave it a slight edge over tfa, aotc and rots because the action cues were better. 

[filmmusic 2,784]

17 minutes ago, king mark said:

I dunno, the action cues have an energy I haven't heard since the pre-Jurassic Park era

 

I love the snowy action cues from Tintin with those virtuosic piano passages, and I consider them much fresher and more energetic than any action music of TLJ.

Anyway, my opinion.

[crocodile 9,403]

2 minutes ago, Obi said:

Too soon to tell ! But it's better than AOTC.

 

 

I actually hold AOTC in quite a high regard. Some of the material might be disappointing but it has some absolutely stunning highlights.

 

Karol

[filmmusic 2,784]

1 minute ago, crocodile said:

I actually hold AOTC in quite a high regard. Some of the material might be disappointing but it has some absolutely stunning highlights.

 

Karol

Plus it has the gorgeous Love theme.

[crocodile 9,403]

Just now, filmmusic said:

Plus it has the gorgeous Love theme.

Indeed! It is a fantastic theme.

 

Karol

[Balahkay 631]

1 hour ago, Rick said:

I think a score needs repeated listening (in its complete/expanded form, if possible) AND the passage of time in order to be properly compared with an older work.

 

Agreed.  It's still too new and it's genius has yet to be discovered like the previous scores.  This has been the case with every new Star Wars score since TPM (I can't comment if ESB/ROTJ were instant hits at the time).  I've read archived complaints about TPM not having enough of the Force theme.  It was too new and different for some to accept it at the time.

[hornist 1,240]

1 hour ago, El Jefe said:

Until we get the complete score it’s the 7th best, if you count Rogue One, TLJ is the 8th best score.

 

We do not count mediocre scores here. 

[Bespin Copilot 10,178]

I don't know how to rank it.

 

But I disliked the movie, so the music was also a big disapointment.

 

For the use of the Emperor's theme and the reutilization of Here They Come.... that score is a big FAIL for me.

 

[Ollie 1,356]

7 minutes ago, hornist said:

 

We do not count mediocre scores here. 

 

 

Quit talking about AOTC and TLJ then.

[Not Mr. Big 4,872]

The Last (place) Jedi

[hornist 1,240]

Heh

this is so much better than. Chia delivered 

[Ollie 1,356]

Never heard of chia, did he write a Star Wars score too?

 

 

[hornist 1,240]

probably no. I like his  Lost stuff

[Ollie 1,356]

I thought Michael Giacchino composed LOST.

 

 

[hornist 1,240]

 I voted best music  that will happen in 40 years

[BloodBoal 7,545]

1 hour ago, Bespin said:

I disliked the movie

 

Told you so, man!

[Bespin Copilot 10,178]

I know.

[crocodile 9,403]

3 hours ago, El Jefe said:

 

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much like Rey, I remain defiant!

Well... at least it makes top 10!

 

Karol

[Quintus 5,973]

Pasi says it's his best Star Wars score? Either he's drunk again, or I REALLY need to get on this album. 

[BloodBoal 7,545]

[crocodile 9,403]

2 minutes ago, Quintus said:

Pasi says it's his best Star Wars score? Either he's drunk again, or I REALLY need to get on this album. 

I thought you didn't like film music?

 

Karol

[filmmusic 2,784]

5 minutes ago, Quintus said:

Pasi says it's his best Star Wars score? Either he's drunk again, or I REALLY need to get on this album. 

Pasi is the hornist?

[BloodBoal 7,545]

Yes.

[Quintus 5,973]

27 minutes ago, crocodile said:

I thought you didn't like film music?

 

Karol

 

I love film music, if it's good.

[Tom 6,122]

There are two ways of ranking these: one on originality and new themes and two on pure listening experience.  Obviously, it does not do all that great with the first standard. However, on the second it does very well.  The versions of the MofR are better in this movie than in VIII.  The force theme is better than most.  Kylos theme is better than in VIII.  Poes is the same.  Even Luke and Leia is just as good.  Rey's theme is good, though not as good as VII.  Add full-throttled action, and a couple new themes to boot, and you have a very powerful listening experience.  

[King Mark 3,896]

Well the best version of Poe's Theme is The Resistance from TFA (on the FYC only)

[Bespin Copilot 10,178]

With this score John Williams sent us a message: I'm a little bit tired of writing Star Wars music.

 

 

I feel old, depersonalized. My idols Charles Aznavour and John Williams are dying slowly.

[FBC Director 10,345]

Although not a bad score, it's not a great one either. I rank TLJ at the very bottom. Even lower than Rogue One.

 

As a listening experience, it suffers from an overlong and sluggish album. Some tracks could have been trimmed or axed entirely.

[artguy360 2,153]

It's too early for me to give it an "official" ranking but it's definitely better than AOTC in my book but below TPM and TFA. Need to listen to it more.

[Bespin Copilot 10,178]

It's not really a score, it's a best-of.

 

I'm really angry.

[John 2,033]

Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

[Bespin Copilot 10,178]

You are right, tonight I suffer.  One of the badest day of all my life. I had so much expectations.

[Chewy 2,771]

6 minutes ago, Bespin said:

It's not really a score, it's a best-of.

 

I'm really angry.

I know that feeling. But I've also learned to not judge a score too quickly, especially Williams' ones. Give it more listens, and I'm sure you'll love it.

[Bespin Copilot 10,178]

Oh it's a best-of like I said.... it's very good... we already know 3/4 of the stuff.

 

I'm 43 yo.  I listen to Star Wars music since 40 fucking years.

 

That's enough I think.

 

Sorry, to use that four letter word, but I'm very very very angry.  This day is one to be forgotten.

[Chewy 2,771]

I had the same feeling when I first heard TFA...but I love it now. TLJ has a lot of new stuff to offer. It's not instantly recognisable, nor memorable but it's here!

[Bespin Copilot 10,178]

Oh geez, I listen to the End Credits for the first time.... Yes he repeats the Here they come theme.

 

My god.

 

I'm disheartened.

 

So if we resume, Canto Bight is perhaps the only track where the Force Theme is not quoted?