Darth Mulder 150 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,272 Posted January 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2018 I am able. Smeltington, Glóin the Dark, Naïve Old Fart and 6 others 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,158 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Rah, rah, rah! Go for it, Mike! Seriously, though, either Giacchino, Powell, or Desplat would be good. Since, however, I have absolutely no interest in AVATARs 2 through 26, I'll retire from this thread. Tatty bye! mstrox and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,004 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 The question should be, Who can compose music to please James Cameron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Gia! Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,544 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 We all know it's going to be Junkie XL... Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Darth Mulder and Arpy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,992 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, El Jefe said: The question should be, Who can compose music to please James Cameron? Nobody. He could get the most perfect score ever concieved by mankind and would still hack it to bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,158 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Ok, shortlived retirement. This will, undoubtedly, be Cameron's greatest challenge. My money is still on on one of the three listed above. Either that, or he gets an erstwhile colleague of Horner's to arrange the original score, a la SUPERMAN II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,004 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Or or we could call it; “What composer wants to put up with James Cameron?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,544 Posted January 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2018 Theme by John Williams Score by Junkie XL Obi, Luka and Pieter Boelen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 150 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Howard Shore + Na'vi chorals, not bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted January 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2018 Fingered crossed for James Newton Howard. Luka, idril, JoeinAR and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 150 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 They're all dead! mstrox and Smeltington 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,272 Posted January 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2018 I know it's unlikely and I doubt it would be very fruitful, but as little as I care about Avatar, I'd be wholly onboard for John Williams. I could see somebody like Powell, JNH. Silvestri if The Abyss is a distant enough memory. Cameron doesn't seem like the type to dip his toes too deep into the Remote Control waters. crumbs, James and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 150 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, mstrox said: That not Williams style... Williams was always the first who composed themes in first movie of franchise. He never took over themes from someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,272 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'd want Williams to start from scratch, not use Horner's (forgettable IMO) themes anyway. But I knew it was a random mstrox pipe dream. Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darth Mulder 150 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, mstrox said: I'd want Williams to start from scratch, not use Horner's (forgettable IMO) themes anyway. But I knew it was a random mstrox pipe dream. I like Horner's War track Luka, James and Pieter Boelen 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,773 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Silvestri would be great. Pieter Boelen and Obi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,707 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hopefully not Gia. Although that would give me a good reason to totally ignore every aspect of this film James Newton Howard would be nice. Powell would be cool but I couldn’t see him using too many of Horner’s themes. Someone adapting Horner’s themes and then just giving them to Cameron to hack to bits. Chewy and JoeinAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 6,829 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 4 hours ago, JohnSolo said: Fingered crossed for James Newton Howard. Same here. He's the most ideal composer I can think of for this project. John and Luka 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,733 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Bilbo said: Hopefully not Gia. Although that would give me a good reason to totally ignore every aspect of this film James Newton Howard would be nice. Powell would be cool but I couldn’t see him using too many of Horner’s themes. Someone adapting Horner’s themes and then just giving them to Cameron to hack to bits. The first score is pleasant enough but there is hardly any worthy thematic material worth reprising. I mean, come on. Karol Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 6,829 Posted January 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2018 AVATAR is one of Horner's greatest works, period. crlbrg, Not Mr. Big, JoeinAR and 6 others 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,172 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Shouldn't this thread have a poll with composer options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Orgasm[+]Donor. 75 Posted January 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2018 I agree, Avatar is one of his finest, and considering the amound of work put in this. I think no one would be able to tackle what he did, not even williams even if I dont see him working with cameron and past 2020. James Newton Howard would be the perfect choice. JoeinAR, crlbrg, Taikomochi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 698 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Alexandre Desplat? I'm no great fan of his, but he might be able to take it somewhere interesting. And, following a great emotional composer like James Horner, perhaps he would be willing to go a bit more all-out than I've heard of him so far. Desplat certainly has the chops for greatness. I'd like to hear him accomplish it some day! idril and James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,325 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Lindsey Stirling. Luka and Offline 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idril 86 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Although I think JNH would be perfect for this, I really like your idea Pieter_Boelen of Desplat because it would be an opportunity for him to use the 'prettiness' that he often does but actually translate it to something grander. Pieter Boelen and James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 13,908 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'm thinking Silvestri but it depends on how their collaboration washed up with The Abyss. Was that full of bad blood ala Horner on Aliens? It's a twofold problem actually. Cameron is infamously difficult to work with, especially for composers. Williams wouldn't go near him. I doubt Elfman would put up with his crap either. Yet Jim seems to hold classically trained composers (like Horner and Williams) in very high esteem... then just hacks their work to pieces. Horner's already established a musical tapestry for the series, so he'll probably want consistency going forward -- a blend of symphonic, synthetic and tribal/percussive. I can't see him going down the RC farm route, but his options seem surprisingly narrow for a high-profile score if he wants a classically trained composer with blockbuster experience -- who's prepared to put up with his shit not just for one film but four! Assuming Silvestri's out, maybe Powell? Thomas Newman? David Arnold would be a pleasant surprise! Will probably just end up Henry Jackman or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,172 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If working with Cameron is one of the sticking points here, maybe what we really need to do is find a different director. I vote for Béla Tarr. Offline and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,792 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Shouldn't this thread have a poll with composer options? We need a poll to know the answer to this question. Chris Young. I would be happy if Powell or James Newton Howard got this gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 My guess is Cameron will cut and paste the first score over the new films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTWfan77 1,681 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Okay, I'll recycle my old posts from FSM: JNH or Joel McNeely. The latter is unlikely as he really hasn't done anything this high profile (but I'd be ecstatic if he was chosen). John Debney also seems a possibility. Silvestri (I read somewhere) did not get on with Cameron so doubt it would happen. Just please not HZ or any RC composers. They've cornered the big tentpole movie market long enough How about if Cameron gets four different composers, one to score each sequel. Then we can have JNH, McNeely, Debney and Arnold! They can even work concurrently, shortening the timelines and hopefully mitigating the risk of nervous breakdowns Seriously, one composer committing to all four sequels would be quite taxing, based on Cameron's modus operandi and the timelines for this project. Didn't Horner work on the first one almost exclusively for a whole year? To summarise: Worst case: Zimmer or one of his minions Best case: James Newton-Howard or John Debney Left field: David Arnold, Don Davis, Joel McNeely, Bruce Broughton Possibly: Horner's former collabrators including Simon Franglen, using Avatar as backbone (similar to what Kamen's people did for Back To Gaya). Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,776 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 David Arnold could emulate those trademark Horner mannerisms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,992 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Glóin the Dark said: If working with Cameron is one of the sticking points here, maybe what we really need to do is find a different director. I vote for Béla Tarr. It's bad enough we get a hundred more of these, we don't want them to also be 9 hours long each! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,158 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Denise Bryson said: David Arnold could emulate those trademark Horner mannerisms. Indeed. They are all over WHITE KNIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,396 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I bet Gordy Haab could incorporate existing themes and write his own original underscore for everything else well enough. The same tack didn't seem to be a problem for Disney and its second marquee franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,544 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 James Newton Howard. Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 150 Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Danny Elfman no, just kidding The better question is: Who adapt Horner's cliche danger motif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 6,829 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Holko said: It's bad enough we get a hundred more of these, we don't want them to also be 9 hours long each! He, he...I'd pay good dollar to see an AVATAR movie by ol' Béla. Since the films are all about engrossment, I can picture myself being engrossed in a b/w "AvaTarr" universe forever. Epic battles between icrans and turin horses. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,992 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Thor said: "AvaTarr" I hate you. I really hate you for that. That's something I'd say, but you thought of it first! Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,158 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Whoever scores AVATAR 2 (or whatever it's called), it'll be a poison chalice. Two things are certain: 1) they will be in for a bumpy ride, and 2) they will have very big shoes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,124 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 "Yeah, yeah BOO GIACCHINO, YOU SUCK!" aside, I'd like to think his WFTPOTA score would be a close approximate of how I imagine he might score an Avatar film. He can pull off the militaristic bombast and the wonder of Pandorica, or whatever the fuck it's called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,130 Posted January 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2018 HAS to be JNH no question. Maleficent King Kong Lady in the Water Fantastic Beasts Peter Pan His 3 Disney Scores Avatar: Last Airbender He is the best composer for fantasy films that there is and has ever been. Luka, Darth Mulder, James and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 6,829 Posted January 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2018 The adventure films is one thing, but the reason I'd pick him is his fantastic gift of creating broad textures that combine electronics and orchestra, often with an ethnic tinge. This is the main "Avatar sound", IMO. I can easily hear shades of tracks like "The Pure Spirits of the Forest" and "The Biolumiscence of the Night" in tracks like, say, "Swimming" from WATERWORLD (my favourite JNH and his magnum opus): Pieter Boelen, leeallen01, James and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,130 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I made a very rough example of JNH's music paired with a scene from Avatar. https://1drv.ms/v/s!Akz-9hNbLAnnhiyBV9g3vuSVOKlM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,177 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, Thor said: The adventure films is one thing, but the reason I'd pick him is his fantastic gift of creating broad textures that combine electronics and orchestra, often with an ethnic tinge. This is the main "Avatar sound", IMO. I can easily hear shades of tracks like "The Pure Spirits of the Forest" and "The Biolumiscence of the Night" in tracks like, say, "Swimming" from WATERWORLD (my favourite JNH and his magnum opus): The score to Waterworld is indeed grand, but as a whole I don't find it that impressive. It has its great moments but also a significant share of less interesting music. In my opinion, Signs is a score with an overall higher quality, although not as grand as Waterworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,396 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Nick Cave Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,247 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Signs I think really shows how interesting his music can be. The layers and instrumentation are sublime. I'd agree that the worst case is Zimmer or clone. Although if Hanzy gets 15 additional composers to help, they'll be able to churn out revised cues by lunchtime. I mean that in a bad way. I'd go with JNH, Powell, Davis, HGW or Elfman. But yes, from the composer's perspective, it's a case of who will be willing to put up with Cameron's shit for potentially multiple films. HGW's probably had enough of Ridley's crap by now. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,776 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Angelo Badalamenti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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