#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 40 minutes ago, mstrox said: I think Lucasfilm needs to stop committing to people and start committing to ideas That doesnt even mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stefancos said: That doesnt even mean anything. Im not saying Don’t Hire People. I’m saying just wait to announce people until you have a movie to make! Easy peasy - they did it with Favreau, they didn’t announce Kenobi stuff until all the scripts were written, etc. Announcing a trilogy by a duo who hadn’t even developed anything for it yet, or announcing Trevorrow for E9 before TFA came out, Trank, etc.... it’s bound to end poorly. Disco Stu and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Backseat executive! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,448 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 hours ago, crumbs said: Dedicate all resources to Johnson's new trilogy (Old Republic?) and throw the bank at Williams to compose a suite of totally new themes to establish that trilogy and hand off the complete job to Powell. That would be wonderful, however... Wouldn't Johnson at least try to bring his cousin Nathan Johnson to his trilogy? The worked together on Brick, Looper and Knives Out - The Last Jedi was the exception for obvious reasons. But since Williams probably won't commit for another SW trilogy, Rian is "free from the obligation" of collaborating with him, which means he can bring Nathan. Of course, if LFL will accept it, that's another story. Perhaps they will prefer to collaborate with someone they already know and trust, like Powell himself, or maybe Goransson, who is scoring Mandalorian. But I guess Rian will probably make an attempt for his cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Sounds about right. Plus, while I love that Williams' took the time to write themes and cues for Solo, maybe after The Rise of Skywalker its best that he ends his association with Star Wars alltogether: just go out with a bang and leave it at that. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Edmilson said: But since Williams probably won't commit for another SW trilogy, Rian is "free from the obligation" of collaborating with him, which means he can bring Nathan. Establishing the core themes is different to doing the whole trilogy though. He could nail that in a few weeks and be done with it. And judging by the way Rian waxes lyrical about working with John, I think he'd be the first in line to throw their weight behind the idea. Somehow I doubt he has the clout to get a lesser known composer like Nathan to score the film proper though (although stranger things have happened). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 hours ago, crumbs said: Ditto. Dedicate all resources to Johnson's new trilogy (Old Republic?) and throw the bank at Williams to compose a suite of totally new themes to establish that trilogy What a terrible thing to do to Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Not Mr. Big said: What a terrible thing to do to Williams! It’s ok. He’s done with Star Wars after December 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Thank the maker! I don’t think this qualifies, personally. In development projects are announced and cancelled regularly in the film industry. This is pretty far from the firings of Lord/Miller or Trevorrow. Especially since it seems this is just a case of D&D leaving to freely harvest from the Netflix money tree. But there’s something with almost every movie. TLJ was the only one without any drama. I know it’s common but it seems to be par for the course with Lucasfilm these days. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ii2 210 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Bilbo said: It’s ok. He’s done with Star Wars after December I’m guessing Powell will carry on the music for SW films after TROS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 It's gonna be different composers for every project. I still don't know why people expect there to be one person just because Williams had a monopoly on the thing he created in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ii2 210 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: It's gonna be different composers for every project. I still don't know why people expect there to be one person just because Williams had a monopoly on the thing he created in the first place. Definitely, though, there will be a composer who’s on top of all projects and oversees them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 That doesn't sound like a real job. I don't understand why John Powell or anybody else should be expected to make a career of that. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I kinda figured once their Netflix deal was announced (and GOT8 was received so poorly) that their SW trilogy would never happen. So does this basically guarantee the movie Disney slotted for December 2022 is Rian Johnson's first trilogy movie, or is it still possible it could be something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 A GOT Star Wars is not going to happen?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jay said: So does this basically guarantee the movie Disney slotted for December 2022 is Rian Johnson's first trilogy movie, or is it still possible it could be something else? Kevin Feige’s thing could happen sooner rather than later. Other than that maybe they end up releasing something non-SW there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Disney made their intentions pretty clear Dec 2019 = Star Wars 9 Dec 2020 = West Side Story Dec 2021 = Avatar 2 Dec 2022 = Star Wars Dec 2023 = Avatar 3 Dec 2024 = Star Wars Dec 2025 = Avatar 4 Dec 2026 = Star Wars Dec 2027 = Avatar 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Well they also made their intentions pretty clear when they announced these guys were making three Star Wars movies! And wasn’t Avatar 2 supposed to come out five years ago? Nobody knows anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 All these Star Wars and Avatar movies are gonna be disappointing anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I’m just here for Jon Williamz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Don't worry guys, I'm sure they'll draft in John Faverau to save the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted October 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2019 Star Wars tackles Game of Thrones Showrunners Ii2, Fabulin, Chen G. and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 54 minutes ago, Jay said: I kinda figured once their Netflix deal was announced (and GOT8 was received so poorly) that their SW trilogy would never happen. So does this basically guarantee the movie Disney slotted for December 2022 is Rian Johnson's first trilogy movie, or is it still possible it could be something else? I hope RJ’s stuff gets canned soon. There’s too much drama around him and while I like TLJ it isn’t *that* good. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 TLJ was terrible but I think he's capable of writing a SW movie that isn't bad. We'll see! Remco, Arpy and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bilbo said: I hope RJ’s stuff gets canned soon. There’s too much drama around him You can always... you know... ignore stupid shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2019 TLJ isn't terrible Holko, Wojo, Fabulin and 7 others 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Holko said: You can always... you know... ignore stupid shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2019 I'm gonna go ahead and say that I don't think any Star Wars movie is terrible. Not even Solo, my least favorite of all 10 thus far released. Chen G., Fabulin, mstrox and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 AotC disagrees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I agree with Disco Stu. Just now, Holko said: AotC disagrees! You clearly haven’t seen many genuinely terrible movies. Fabulin and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Holko said: AotC disagrees! Good movie! The good parts are great and the bad parts are funny! Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bilbo said: You clearly haven’t seen many genuinely terrible movies. True. I would have to strain myself really hard to come up with any redeeming factor or enjoyability in it. 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Good movie! The good parts are great and the bad parts are funny! It has no good parts and the bad parts are just bad or insanely boring. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Holko said: It has no good parts and the bad parts are just ad or insanely boring. Hayden gives the best comedic performance of 2002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Nah he just sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Holko said: Nah he just sucks. Holko, you're going to find that many of the truths you cling to depend greatly on your own point of view. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Holko said: Nah he just sucks. How do you know? A gentleman never sucks and tells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Bilbo said: You clearly haven’t seen many genuinely terrible movies. Whenever anybody says anything is the worst ever, I always wonder what they’re comparing it to. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I enjoy the original trilogy of movies quite a bit but the prequel movies, sequel movies, and spinoff movies have all disappointed me in various different ways JW's scores are all terrific, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,448 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I guess IF (and that's a big if) we have a new SW movie coming out on December 2022, it'll be Feige's. He already has the expertise on how to manage enourmous franchises and deliver consistent, solid blockbusters. Of course, can he and Johnson collaborate? Sure, but to be honest I don't think Johnson's trilogy is happening at all. As much as I like TLJ (the exact opposite from 97% of the internet, I guess), I can't see Disney bringing back such a controversial filmmaker as him, or even he wanting to go back to all the pressures of dealing with such a enourmous franchise. He might be happier with smaller movies like Knives Out. In any case, WB is observing this situation closely. They also have Aquaman 2 scheduled for release on Dec 2022. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 42 minutes ago, Holko said: AotC disagrees! Back when I was more vicious I might have agreed, but nowadays I can find a scarce few things to like about Attack of the Clones. I don't think its really any good, but its also not a catastrophe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 It is preposterously badly made though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 It is, but there are some things it does right. Never something that I would say creates a cohesive whole - just nuggets which are good in isolation - but that's still something. Namely, I like that we start the story by spending some reasonably-unhurried time in Curoscant and the Republic. Getting a taste of the life in the republic makes its downfall much more meaningful, and some of the shots are striking and have a tremedous sense of scale. Ditto the arena in the end of the film. That - and Williams' love theme - is where my positives end, unfortunately. But its still something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 It's a fabulous theme. It's great that after composing for five films, he finally got around to writing a love theme for the saga. Do you know it was the first? I didn't know that. It's fascinating. Remco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 As icky as it may sound in retrospect, Leia's theme was the first love theme Williams wrote for this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I truly, deeply love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Luke and Leia was the first incestuous love theme for the saga. Matt C and Remco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I think Johnson’s trilogy will get the axe, too... he recently said in an interview that he has no update yet he’s still working with Lucasfilm while they figure things out. How is he supposed to plan his future projects if Disney keeps him hanging? It’s probably for the best since Johnson’s new characters in TLJ are among the least interesting and compelling of the saga. I can’t imagine him creating a fresh and exciting batch of characters for a new trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I thought Kathleen loved him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Balahkay said: I think Johnson’s trilogy will get the axe, too... he recently said in an interview that he has no update yet he’s still working with Lucasfilm while they figure things out. How is he supposed to plan his future projects if Disney keeps him hanging? It’s probably for the best since Johnson’s new characters in TLJ are among the least interesting and compelling of the saga. I can’t imagine him creating a fresh and exciting batch of characters for a new trilogy. while I enjoy TLJ you’ve hit the nail on the head with regards to his new characters. Rose and... whatever Benecio Del Toro’s character was called were dull as dishwater. Oh and there was that whole awful Laura Dern character and subplot... Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 . Remco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Lucas > Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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