King Mark 3,626 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 well, why did they pull it from the streaming version if they just slap it on the blu ray with no afterthoughts? It means they don't give a shit and we shouldn't see it as a sign c.d.'s are in the work. The only hope for TROS is a sessions leak now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Disney Studios' home media arm would have no clue if Disney Records is working on new soundtrack albums or not and even if they knew it would have no impact on porting existing digital bonus features to their new physical release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Even if there were isos for the other two films, it wouldn't satisfy those making long-term expanded sets due to microedits and mixing issues. An isolated score for a newer film I actually had interest in would be rather nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 16 hours ago, Jay said: There's no guarantee that the bitrate will be any different than what streamed, but it will be possible to make a direct rip, yes. Well, just looking at the spectral wave of Rey Trains, the version ripped from the Blu Ray is better than the one that was taken from the online release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Yes. And apparently there's a bit more material on the beginning? Is that real material from the JW-written cue (not edited in or anything)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 0:00-0:08 of the menu music is from somewhere else I can't quite place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanskie 104 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Oh... that's really weird. 0:00 - 0:08 is the end of the Rey Training cue. Can you hear the end of Kylo Ren's theme at the very beginning? it's like they shaved off the end of the cue and put it at the very beginning of that menu music, but it's still missing a few seconds in between Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 It's one of those things they do just to fuck with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Ah yes, that's it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I bought this new 4K UH blu-ray 3-disc edition in hope there would be this score-only version. Necative. I think I will never be able to see this version. Sad. It is a wonderful score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo 54 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 11 hours ago, moi said: I bought this new 4K UH blu-ray 3-disc edition in hope there would be this score-only version. Necative. I think I will never be able to see this version. Sad. It is a wonderful score. As far as I'm aware, it has only been released in the The Skywalker Saga Box Set from Best Buy. I haven't heard of it being released separately thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 13 hours ago, moi said: I bought this new 4K UH blu-ray 3-disc edition in hope there would be this score-only version. Necative. I think I will never be able to see this version. Sad. It is a wonderful score. 1 hour ago, Turbo said: As far as I'm aware, it has only been released in the The Skywalker Saga Box Set from Best Buy. I haven't heard of it being released separately thus far. It is indeed in the standalone 4K set. It is NOT on the 4K disc however, it is only on the standard Blu-Ray disc that comes with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yeah, it is the standard Blu-ray disc only on the new Skywalker Saga box release. I don't think Disney ever put any extras on their 4K discs. There is no special features tab on the disc menu, however. As soon as you play the film, it will ask you whether you want to play it as is, or with the commentary track on, or the isolated score. Scratch that! Why don't I just show it to you: The old disc menu is bit different. It had commentary track option in the main menu and no score-only option (obviously): As for the disc's availability I'm bit confused. Indeed, this bonus feature appears on The Skywalker Box set (exclusive to Best Buy in the US and Amazon UK in the UK). But I was looking at this release but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere to actually buy. The whole release situation with these films around the world is really mind-boggling. We don't have the separate 4K releases announced at all over here in the UK so there's no Rogue One here at all. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 So is this nowhere available separately from the Skywalker box set then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I bought that standalone 4K set but it is not there in the Blu-ray. The menu is almost same than in Karol's pic just without score-only option. So, I should buy some box to have this? No thanks. It is the most important SW score for me! 😭😭😭😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, fommes said: So is this nowhere available separately from the Skywalker box set then? 17 minutes ago, moi said: I bought that standalone 4K set but it is not there in the Blu-ray. The menu is almost same than in Karol's pic just without score-only option. So, I should buy some box to have this? No thanks. It is the most important SW score for me! 😭😭😭😭 My understanding is these discs will be released separately at some point (later this year?). I bet they just want to shift as many units of the (overpriced) Skywalker box set first. It's supposed to be "limited" so fingers crossed it sells quick. The reason I was being so confused is because there are already reviews of the new TLJ release. Maybe they were delayed because of the pandemic? In any case, there's no way you won't get a chance to buy those on their own. It's Disney we're talking about here! Karol Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 wow, sounds like a feature they forgot to remove instead of include Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 In the Spain version of Disney+ i can confirm it is not there either. There is the option of seeing the film with director commentary but not the iso track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, moi said: I bought that standalone 4K set but it is not there in the Blu-ray. The menu is almost same than in Karol's pic just without score-only option. So, I should buy some box to have this? No thanks. It is the most important SW score for me! 😭😭😭😭 Are you talking about the *new* 4K release, and not the 2018 4K set? It should be on the new 4K set. 1 hour ago, crocodile said: My understanding is these discs will be released separately at some point (later this year?). I bet they just want to shift as many units of the (overpriced) Skywalker box set first. It's supposed to be "limited" so fingers crossed it sells quick. The reason I was being so confused is because there are already reviews of the new TLJ release. Maybe they were delayed because of the pandemic? In any case, there's no way you won't get a chance to buy those on their own. It's Disney we're talking about here! Karol The standalone sets released on the exact same day as the boxset. I already have most of them. EDIT: Scratch that if you're only referring to a UK release; I was specifically talking about the US releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: The standalone sets released on the exact same day as the boxset. I already have most of them. Why can't I see any of them in any of the online stores then? I can see only the 2018 ones... Where did you buy it from? Do you have a link? (Not that I care myself. I've got the box set already) Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, crocodile said: Why can't I see any of them in any of the online stores then? I can see only the 2018 ones... Where did you buy it from? Do you have a link? (Not that I care myself. I've got the box set already) Karol Seriously? They're right on the front pages of any site I go to, and every store I go to. I got most of them at my local Walmart, and some of them at my local Best Buy. They were actually announced a few months prior to the big boxset. Here are the Amazon listings: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=star+wars+4k&ref=nb_sb_noss_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Seriously? They're right on the front pages of any site I go to, and every store I go to. I got most of them at my local Walmart, and some of them at my local Best Buy. Just look it up on Amazon.com or Best Buy websites. Only the 2018 set is listed. I'm talking about The Last Jedi specifically. I can see all the other movies on UHD but not this one. Or am I going crazy? Which, I admit, is possible. 9 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Here are the Amazon listings: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=star+wars+4k&ref=nb_sb_noss_1 Can't see that new release of The Last Jedi. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, crocodile said: Just look it up on Amazon.com or Best Buy websites. Only the 2018 set is listed. I'm talking about The Last Jedi specifically. I can see all the other movies on UHD but not this one. Or am I going crazy? Which, I admit, is possible. Karol Ah okay I see. TLJ does indeed have a new release, and I almost got it last week but decided to get ANH instead... It appears there is some sort of conspiracy going on now that I look at the Blu-Ray forums... apparently people are having a harder time finding it all of a sudden; apparently some people are selling it on eBay for crazy high prices. Also a few people said they ordered the set from Target only to find that they had replaced the discs with the 2018 versions and put the new slipcase over it. Some people seem to think that Disney recalled them because the standalone sets weren't supposed to have the new bonus features (such as the isolated score) but they were accidentally included. I really hope that's not true... In any case I should probably check my local Walmart to see if they still have it, so I can scoop it up before it disappears. EDIT: I just remembered that I think the reason I didn't get it last week was because it was suddenly missing from my Walmart. Ah shit... EDIT2: I just checked and noticed the release date has been removed from Blu-Ray.com, despite it already being released. Now it just says "no release date announced". Maybe they accidentally released it too early? crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Or maybe that isolated score track was supposed to be a digital-only feature after all... Well, you're only option right now is The Skywalker Box then. Maybe this is the only way they were allowed to release it? So strange. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, crocodile said: Or maybe that isolated score track was supposed to be a digital-only feature after all... Well, you're only option right now is The Skywalker Box then. Maybe this is the only way they were allowed to release it? So strange. Karol My guess is that they will release it later on... Hopefully anyway. I won't be getting the boxset though unfortunately. Aside from being way too pricey, I've already gotten most of the standalone sets, so getting them twice would be redundant. I already have a rip of the Blu-Ray isolated score thankfully... It just would have been nice to have my own physical copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Manakin Skywalker said: My guess is that they will release it later on... Hopefully anyway. I won't be getting the boxset though unfortunately. Aside from being way too pricey, I've already gotten most of the standalone sets, so getting them twice would be redundant. I already have a rip of the Blu-Ray isolated score thankfully... It just would have been nice to have my own physical copy. I thought of one other possibility... Maybe it cannot be released in the US because it's already a digital exclusive? It never appeared in Europe in any form so there is no problem. But, as you say, hopefully it is just a momentary glitch. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Just now, crocodile said: I thought of one other possibility... Maybe it cannot be released in the US because it's already a digital exclusive? It never appeared in Europe in any form so there is no problem. But, as you say, hopefully it is just a momentary glitch. Karol Another theory I have; I've heard some people complaining that there are issues with the HDR. I doubt that would have caused a recall though, but as to why they suddenly disappeared is anyone's guess at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Another theory I have; I've heard some people complaining that there are issues with the HDR. I doubt that would have caused a recall though, but as to why they suddenly disappeared is anyone's guess at this point. Well, it is a possibility as well. Speaking of HDR... Supposedly, the new disc has a different grading than the old one. The old disc had Dolby Vision whereas the new one is "just" HDR10. But when I first tried the new disc my player thought it was the old one because it wanted to resume watching. I cannot see any difference at all, to be honest. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, crocodile said: Well, it is a possibility as well. Speaking of HDR... Supposedly, the new disc has a different grading than the old one. The old disc had Dolby Vision whereas the new one is "just" HDR10. But when I first tried the new disc my player thought it was the old one because it wanted to resume watching. I cannot see any difference at all, to be honest. Karol I didn't notice until now, but Solo is also missing now suddenly. So both TLJ and Solo were recalled together. I'm not positive if Solo had any similar issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I didn't notice until now, but Solo is also missing now suddenly. So both TLJ and Solo were recalled together. I'm not positive if Solo had any similar issues. Maybe it had the isolated score track too? Karol Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 The isolated track has been missing from Disney+ in Australia since a few weeks after the launch. Rather perplexing, considering they've added lots of new bonus content for that film in the months since (but never added the isolated score back as an option). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 We never had isolated score track available on Disney+ here in the UK. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 It's one of the first things I checked for when I signed up to Disney+ last week. Probably some lame copyright reason why it's not worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Well, the "new" sets seem to be available in Europe. Here is the German release. I bet this has the isolated score (not confirmed!). Karol fommes and Joni Wiljami 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 They probably pressed fewer of TLJ because it had been issued in 4K before - hence, less demand and retailers probably also had old TLJ 4K in stock already. As stock turns over and refreshes, the new 4K TLJ will be the one in print and on shelves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 8:46 PM, crocodile said: Well, the "new" sets seem to be available in Europe. Here is the German release. I bet this has the isolated score (not confirmed!). Karol Ok, I purchased this too. The artwork is different than in the one I bought 2 weeks ago(I think its 2018 release) If its not there I will kick your ass😜😜😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, moi said: Ok, I purchased this too. The artwork is different than in the one I bought 2 weeks ago(I think its 2018 release) If its not there I will kick your ass😜😜😜 Well if it isn't you can just return it, can't you? Karol Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/18/2020 at 5:50 PM, crocodile said: Well if it isn't you can just return it, can't you? Karol IT WAS THERE!!! Thank you Karol, I love you. My life is complete!! I will buy you a beer!!! 😎😎😎 Taikomochi and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Fantastic! I'm really glad. Karol Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Still don't see the point of having TLJ isolated without the other two. Missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 I guess since Rian said publicly that he wanted to include the score, Disney felt that the right PR move would be to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Probably because this already existed as an extra for the past 2 years. They're just being bit lazy, that's all. With all the tracking (from the score and several others) as well as all the editorial butchering The Rise of Skywalker would have been more upsetting than enjoyable. I would like to have The Force Awakens though. Kaorl A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, crocodile said: With all the tracking (from the score and several others) as well as all the editorial butchering The Rise of Skywalker would have been more upsetting than enjoyable. The edits, loops, stretching, pitch-alterations and tracking from other scores is distracting enough when drowned in the mix, let alone isolated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 The iso score itself doesn't matter It's the material available for fan edits that matters TSMefford and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, King Mark said: The iso score itself doesn't matter It's the material available for fan edits that matters Ehh. Hopefully within a few years MM will be able to fix all that for us, and it'll be that much more glorious hearing it clean for the first time in complete form. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, crumbs said: Ehh. Hopefully within a few years MM will be able to fix all that for us, and it'll be that much more glorious hearing it clean for the first time in complete form. Unless we pass first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, crumbs said: Ehh. Hopefully within a few years MM will be able to fix all that for us, and it'll be that much more glorious hearing it clean for the first time in complete form. I've given up hope for official complete Star Wars releases. Like I'm not being pessimistic.I don't think it'll happen for many many years. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Well, Mike said we had to be patient. Granted, people have waited nearly a quarter of a century since the last expansions (and 5 of the 9 have never been expanded at all) but what's a few more years when you've waited that long? I'd rather they took the extra time to finally get the OT right, and create a truly definitive presentation which lays all previous releases to rest. Besides, we only just got an entirely new SW score to savour, plus non-SW expansions are dropping every few months. Still lots to enjoy! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, crumbs said: I'd rather they took the extra time to finally get the OT right, and create a truly definitive presentation which lays all the previous releases to rest. Yes yes yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, King Mark said: I've given up hope for official complete Star Wars releases. Like I'm not being pessimistic.I don't think it'll happen for many many years. And Disney will probably bollocks it up anyway like they did the ST films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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