phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Listening to the prequels samples first should be considered a serious crime with capital punishment. Jurassic Shark and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, phbart said: Listening to the prequels samples first should be considered a serious crime with capital punishment. I actually started with the OT and worked my way down to the PT. Not sure about Crumbs though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 They weren't!! Just checked! And that's literally the first track I checked. I have a cold and I'm listening over Bluetooth so not much point bothering with the OT samples (as much as I'm desperate to hear the SQ). Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I am listening to all the samples available on that zdigital site in order, midway through ANH now. The brass seems a bit off, but it could be my terrible computer speakers at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Are we now furious that the idiots couldn't recreate the album properly or ecstatic that the geniuses gave us the drum versions in high quality? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 First thing I did when I heard the extra percussion was compare the length of Anakin's Dark Deeds. Looks like the fanfare is still edited. I never thought they'd deviate from the OST assembly but with the percussion, I thought there might be a small hope crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 The transition from "The Death Star" to "Tales of a Jedi Knight" on track 8 "Inner City" takes longer. I liked it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 The percussion isn't actually missing from the original OST mixes, it's just heavily buried in the mix. They simply brought the percussion out in this new mix, which I am happy about! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 And yes! They've added the timpani overlays into Boys Into Battle! Very interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jay said: I am listening to all the samples available on that zdigital site in order, midway through ANH now. The brass seems a bit off, but it could be my terrible computer speakers at work The iTunes samples are longer than the australians, Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Ploop. Starting over then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 There's definitely much less hiss in this Star Wars '77 remaster. Very noticeable when I went directly from the zdigital sample for "The Last Battle" to the same section of music in the Sony 16 version I have on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 They've used the film take for Boys Into Battle. The more distinctive brass at 1:56 on the OST isn't there this time. Not a complaint and also not surprising since they've restored the percussion. Just an observation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted May 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, Alan said: They've used the film take for Boys Into Battle. The more distinctive brass at 1:56 on the OST isn't there this time. Not a complaint and also not surprising since they've restored the percussion. Just an observation I actually like that. We've been listening to the same takes over and over again for over a decade... I think it's refreshing to hear some different takes this time around. crumbs, Alan and DarthDementous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Listening lossy compressed samples on earbuds are definitely not the best way to judge the quality, but I'm definitely liking what I'm hearing so far. And I'm only at ANH yet. Can we call it "the best it ever sounded so far"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I think we can. Just imagine what Matessino will do once he's allowed to rampage to his heart's content with this material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, phbart said: Listening lossy compressed samples on earbuds are definitely not the best way to judge the quality, but I'm definitely liking what I'm hearing so far. And I'm only at ANH yet. Can we call it "the best it ever sounded so far"? Based on what we have right now? Yes. Yes we can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 OMG! "The Last Battle" sample from iTunes is EXACTLY the portion I wanted to listen. How did they know what I wanted??? Anyway, it was enough to conclude that the "Detention Block Ambush" portion is the film take, not the original album take. But it sounds glourious anyway. Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,070 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, phbart said: OMG! "The Last Battle" sample from iTunes is EXACTLY the portion I wanted to listen. How did they know what I wanted??? Anyway, it was enough to conclude that the "Detention Block Ambush" portion is the film take, not the original album take. But it sounds glourious anyway. Which take was used on the SE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 You know what's even better than samples? Listening to the complete tracks on Apple Music. Star Wars sounds fantastic on my headphones. Beautiful warmth to the mix, unlike the very dry and sharp SEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, crumbs said: You know what's even better than samples? Listening to the complete tracks on Apple Music. Star Wars sounds fantastic on my headphones. Beautiful warmth to the mix, unlike the very dry and sharp SEs. Tell us the secret. 12 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Which take was used on the SE? They recorded 5 takes of it, takes 150 to 154. Takes 153 and 154 were used, according to the booklet. Dunno what is the album take exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 No secret, I just live in Australia and I'm able to listen to every track from every score through my Apple Music account. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 03/05/2018 at 10:19 AM, crumbs said: Holko, 1977 and Jurassic Shark 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, crumbs said: No secret, I just live in Australia and I'm able to listen to every track from every score through my Apple Music account. I don't have such wealthiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,070 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, crumbs said: No secret, I just live in Australia and I'm able to listen to every track from every score through my Apple Music account. Mate, beware of that Margo character... Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,344 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Okay, prequels sound really neat. Interest increasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Geez, there's a real clarity to AOTC that I've never heard before. A HUGE improvement on the hissy, muddy OST. Reminds me of the clarity jump from the TPM OST to UE. Just goes to show the improvement to be gained from modern scans of old analogue masters. Blown away by Chase Through Coroo-skont, there's detail in the recording I've never heard before. That electric guitar, holy shit! This is brilliant. One side effect of this huge increase in sound quality though? The microedits are a lot more jarring -- these were much smoother in the older OSTs due to the muddier, flatter mix. The film insert of the Imperial March at the end isn't very nice at all. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 For those of us in the UK, highresaudio.com have all 6 listed for download tomorrow CGCJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Moving to ESB... I'm having mental orgasms with the cellos in "Yoda's Theme". Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, phbart said: I don't have such wealthiness. Apple Music costs $9.99/month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 ROTJ sounds pretty great! What a shame there's only 45 minutes of it. Save us, Mike Matessino. You're our only hope! Indeed this is a great sign for a future, comprehensive complete release of these scores, without the audio issues of the SEs. At least I can sleep easy knowing the sessions are scanned in quality this good for perpetuity now. Chewy and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 The content is not available where I live... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, Jay said: Apple Music costs $9.99/month. Even less with my carrier -- it's free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 5/3/2018 at 11:40 AM, Jay said: Apple Music costs $9.99/month. The content is not available where I live... Anyway, I pre-ordered the CDs a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 18 minutes ago, crumbs said: One side effect of this huge increase in sound quality though? The microedits are a lot more jarring -- these were much smoother in the older OSTs due to the muddier, flatter mix. The film insert of the Imperial March at the end isn't very nice at all. I'm not familiar with the work of Mark Willsher and Timeri Duplat, but if Disney ever hires Mike to do complete editions of these, he'll be able to make all those edits sound good. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 The hissy flute from "The Wampa's Lair" portion of track 4 "The Heroics of Luke and Han" is gone, just like on the 93 Anthology. They're there on the original album mix and the 97 SE. Edit.: I promise I won't do a track by track opinion comment, but just to mention that the string sections of "Hyperspace" is soooo much clear now, like it has never been. I'm having multiple mental orgasms right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I won't be able to listen until later but I'm mostly curious about ROTJ... if it sounds just as good as or better than the tracks on the ROTS bonus DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I'll broke my promise, but this time to make a negative comment. "The Asteroid Field" is excessively reverbed. Why use reverb in the 18th year of the 21st Century??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Really torn on whether to buy these or wait for the inevitable expanded sets a few years away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, phbart said: I'll broke my promise, but this time to make a negative comment. "The Asteroid Field" is excessively reverbed. Why use reverb in the 18th year of the 21st Century??? Percussion also sounds a bit buried in there. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Yes, I noticed that too. It's like they moved it a mile away behind the orchestra... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 What is wrong with people to say this is fine, this'll go on the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 "Shit, we have to have this out by May 4th! Hurry up! HURRY UP!!" "But I f*cked up on this one-" "Screw it, those dumb fans won't know the difference!" Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Oh blech. I'm not even one of you audio quality obsessives and I can tell how much worse "Asteroid Field" sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 "People don't care much about the first films anyway". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 And it's got to be one of my favourite cues of the whole saga. Still getting these if no more big problems like this are found, though, it's just one track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Having gone through all the OT samples, my humble opinions: -SW and RoTJ: no reservations whatsoever. Both sounds the best they ever did! Multiple orgasms with those!!! -ESB is GENERALLY wonderful, but I have reservations with some tracks. Sounds like some big action sequences that requires a larger orchestra have some unnatural reverb, like "The Duel", "The Battle in the Snow" and "The Asteroid Field", with "Asteroid" being the worst case with excessive reverb and weak percussions. Why can't they sound like "The Imperial March" or "Hyperspace"? Those ones are blowing away any previously released versions in every sense! "City in the Clouds" has a sudden loud hissy moment, like a bad pasting job. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 10:40 AM, Amer said: I listened to Lapti Nek and Ewok Celebration. They don’t sound like the film mixes to me, unless I’m misunderstanding the meaning of film mixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Very few are flexible enough.... You naughty boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Seems like the hiss on AOTC is even more present on these new remasters: That also means higher frequencies are more accurate on these new remasters, which is good news! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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