Remasters of the First 6 Star Wars Soundtracks now available (Shawn Murphy / Disney Records 2018)

[Jay 37,249]

I hope a future definitive release of Raiders has the entire film score from Tomlinson's mixes AND the entirety of what John Neal remixed in the same package.  IE, not just a replication of the final OST LP, but if he remixed entire cues before editing them down for the final LP, give us the unedited cues too

[Faleel 5,326]

Eh?

 

 

[thx99 1,740]

26 minutes ago, Fal J. M. Skywalker said:

Eh?

 

The NPDT process sounds like a bunch of hogwash...

 

https://npdt-process.com/

 

 

So every CD contains music that is "out of tune, off key" because "digital"?

[ymenard 54]

Well it sounds fantastic so I don't care about the process.  It's a little hot and bass heavy, but the seperation is cleaner, like the old audiophile bootleg version that is less brightened.  What wizardy is all of this?  Why was this updated on SW day?

[Smeltington 1,436]

What is meant by Eh? What are we discussing here? Are there new versions of Star Wars music released or something?

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Just the Disney remastered OSTs which are suddenly being plugged by Disney after all this time with behind the scenes footage showing the digitized sessions. Saved you a click.

 

 

[JohnnyD 1,220]

 

On 5/2/2020 at 7:49 PM, Alan said:

I have a small, foolish glimmer of hope that we might get or hear something about a new release on Monday. It's the day the TROS goes on to Disney+ completing the saga, Clone Wars finishes and The Mandaorian gets its 8-part documentary. Maybe they have something up their sleeves for the music? A fools hope, but a hope nonetheless.

 

May the 4th 2020 has come and gone... This is all fantastic, and yet...

still no word yet on remastered and expanded (definitive) releases of the Maestro's scores...

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Just face it, we'll all be dead when the time comes. And that's just as well since it'll probably be released on minidisc, remastered by Mike's grandson.

[Arpy 4,145]

The fact Disney is pushing the remastered OSTs now means that any expanded release has been delayed by another few years. 

[crumbs 14,287]

38 minutes ago, Arpy said:

The fact Disney is pushing the remastered OSTs now means that any expanded release has been delayed by another few years. 

 

I think they're just running low on new content so they're pushing out whatever's sitting in their archives.

 

This video was probably produced 2 years ago back when they released the sets, they've just slapped a 2020 copyright at the end.

[Faleel 5,326]

6 hours ago, crumbs said:

 

I think they're just running low on new content so they're pushing out whatever's sitting in their archives.

 

This video was probably produced 2 years ago back when they released the sets, they've just slapped a 2020 copyright at the end.

Right, I remember back when we first heard that these were coming out, somebody saying he shot footage on the transferring of everything or something.

[Smeltington 1,436]

12 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

Just the Disney remastered OSTs which are suddenly being plugged by Disney after all this time with behind the scenes footage showing the digitized sessions. Saved you a click.

 

 

 

 

Thanks, I meant Fal's link though, which seems to be audio-only music tracks. I thought maybe the audio had been tweaked yet again... I wouldn't trust myself to be able to tell what had changed.

[thx99 1,740]

29 minutes ago, Smeltington said:

Thanks, I meant Fal's link though, which seems to be audio-only music tracks. I thought maybe the audio had been tweaked yet again... I wouldn't trust myself to be able to tell what had changed.

I took @Fal J. M. Skywalker's "Eh?" comment to be in reference to the "NPDT" process that was applied to the track by the YouTube user.  See my post above.

[Smeltington 1,436]

Oh, so it's just something posted by a YouTube rando? Very well then, carry on.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I've actually listened to these remastered versions of the OT for the first time. I've been pretty vocal here about my enjoyment of the PT and the more aggressive punchy de-muddied Episodes II and III, which rock.

 

Judging from all the criticism of the originals, I expected them to sound like the Orlando Pops. They weren't perfect, but at times, kind of awesome. I have to say, the Imperial March has never sounded this good in any release. It's great, actually. 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,889]

17 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

I've actually listened to these remastered versions of the OT for the first time. I've been pretty vocal here about my enjoyment of the PT and the more aggressive punchy de-muddied Episodes II and III, which rock.

 

Judging from all the criticism of the originals, I expected them to sound like the Orlando Pops. They weren't perfect, but at times, kind of awesome. I have to say, the Imperial March has never sounded this good in any release. It's great, actually. 

 

The thing is that some tracks sound phenomenal, while others sound pretty bad. The botched mastering only seems to affect one channel though; for instance if you listen to the right(?) channel of "The Asteroid Field", it sounds just fine. The left channel on the other hand has a very noticable frequency cutoff, way too much bass, and way too much reverb, making it feel like you're listening to two completely different pieces of music in each ear.

[Tydirium 1,166]

I still can't get over this awful fade-out at 3:14:

 

 

What were they thinking?? The original 2005 release is seamless, but this sounds so unnatural.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Wow, that’s really bad.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Clunky edits don't bother me. They've been there since the original analog JW albums. It adds to the charm.

 

 

On 5/18/2020 at 5:08 PM, Manakin Skywalker said:

The thing is that some tracks sound phenomenal, while others sound pretty bad. The botched mastering only seems to affect one channel though; for instance if you listen to the right(?) channel of "The Asteroid Field", it sounds just fine. The left channel on the other hand has a very noticable frequency cutoff, way too much bass, and way too much reverb, making it feel like you're listening to two completely different pieces of music in each ear.

 

That was my issue with ESB. It constantly seems like everything is mixed in the left channel and the right channel is quiet. What the hell?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

1 hour ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

Clunky edits don't bother me. They've been there since the original analog JW albums. It adds to the charm.

Even when it’s added, not on the original album?

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

The new edits can be a bit sloppy, but it's like a happy accident that connects them more with the OT albums. I understand the other point of view, but I'm obviously unbothered.

 

A sloppy edit that lasts half a second isn't offensive as how the majority of the ESB album seems to be mixed primarily in the left channel. Was Empire a mono recording or something?

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

It's good that these are the now the definitive versions.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

You only have to use one earplug for listening to ESB. It's like they conveniently designed the new album for you to be able to multitask.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Weird post of the day.

[Giftheck 916]

16 hours ago, Tydirium said:

I still can't get over this awful fade-out at 3:14:

 

 

What were they thinking?? The original 2005 release is seamless, but this sounds so unnatural.

 

That'd be because they used the final film mixes. You'd have had the snare drum bleeding through if they'd faded it as it was there. They tried to avoid that, and thus you get that jarring edit.

[Arpy 4,145]

It's unclear what versions or mixes they used, though. Anakin's Dark Deeds for instance doesn't follow the film mix at all, even if I absolutely love the added drums to the Palpatine section which give those brass exclamations some extra oomph.

 

It seems they went through the trouble to recreate the album versions when they could've dropped the whole thing as an expanded set! 

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

But these are the releases that will finance new, expanded sets.

[Giftheck 916]

12 minutes ago, Arpy said:

It's unclear what versions or mixes they used, though. Anakin's Dark Deeds for instance doesn't follow the film mix at all, even if I absolutely love the added drums to the Palpatine section which give those brass exclamations some extra oomph.

 

It's the term they used for these mixes, IIRC. To put it more lengthily, yet probably more accurate, these are largely the exact same mixes they used to use in the LucasArts era of video games - at least as far as ROTS goes. The only exception, I believe, is Enter Lord Vader, which actually appears to just be the OST version (right down to the microedit timing). Odd that they'd care about using the OST version there when they didn't for the other tracks...

[Faleel 5,326]

43 minutes ago, Arpy said:

It's unclear what versions or mixes they used, though. Anakin's Dark Deeds for instance doesn't follow the film mix at all, even if I absolutely love the added drums to the Palpatine section which give those brass exclamations some extra oomph.

 

It seems they went through the trouble to recreate the album versions when they could've dropped the whole thing as an expanded set! 

Well, it's obviously not going to include tracked music.

[crumbs 14,287]

I re-listened to AOTC a few days back. Gotta say this assembly really impresses me. Not sure if they assigned their more talented editors to this release but I really couldn't fault anything about that release, except a few undercooked microedits that weren't handled as smoothly as the original OST edits.

 

No doubt the sound quality is miles above the OST though, though mixed a bit too sharp. Would like that pulled back to something less hot for expansions, if they ever happen (I've given up waiting).

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

20 minutes ago, crumbs said:

No doubt the sound quality is miles above the OST though, though mixed a bit too sharp. Would like that pulled back to something less hot for expansions, if they ever happen (I've given up waiting).

 

That's what we get when the task is assigned to old people with limited hearing.

[Alan 689]

Seems legit...

[crumbs 14,287]

Who is "John Williams"?

[Alan 689]

2 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Who is "John Williams"?

 

No idea. Maybe he wrote the songs in the film??

 

Came from a comment I made on Facebook on an advert for the Remasters.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

I bet it's the guitarist doing a prank!

[crumbs 14,287]

What we really need is someone from Sony Music to verify their identity and post it on Twitter...

 

Seriously though, who is that person? Is there more info on their profile? They might be some hapless intern at Disney Music for all we know (John Williams isn't exactly an uncommon name)?

 

 

[Alan 689]

This is all the information I can see.

 

It's clearly the real deal. He even has album covers as his cover photo!

 

 

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

I wonder who his friends are. Conrad Pope and William Ross?

[Alan 689]

2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

I wonder who his friends are. Conrad Pope and William Ross?

 

I can't see. A man of Williams' status needs to keep things locked down I suppose.

[crumbs 14,287]

Doesn't seem like some obsessive film music fan, obscure reply to make unless you have knowledge.

 

Where was the reply posted?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

1 hour ago, Alan said:

 

I can't see. A man of Williams' status needs to keep things lockdown I suppose.

 

He's probably afraid to catch that COVID-19 computer virus.

[igger6 894]

11 hours ago, Alan said:

 

Well, now we know why he didn't score Deathly Hallows Part II.  He was busy setting up his Facebook account.

[phbart 609]

He was busy trying to hack Alexander Desplat's facebook profile.

[toni112007 3]

Once again Disney delivers subpar trash quality soundtrack like they were recorded on a potato. Its 2020. 40 years since the release of The Empire Strikes Back and we still haven't got proper movie version of Imperial March released...On the other hand its quite possible that the Album version of the Imperial March is the same as the movie one but someone remixed it so badly that it lost all the cymbals, much of horns and other instruments that it sounds like an entirely different version... Also where is my Duel of the Fates but with Revenge of the Sith choir??? Disney is the worst company of all times.

[Amer 2,078]

On 5/4/2020 at 6:44 PM, Jay said:

I hope a future definitive release of Raiders has the entire film score from Tomlinson's mixes AND the entirety of what John Neal remixed in the same package.  IE, not just a replication of the final OST LP, but if he remixed entire cues before editing them down for the final LP, give us the unedited cues too

I had no idea John Neal had actually mixed the entire score before locking the program to the single Lp release we know of today. The Concord release of RAIDERS does show case the John Neal mixes on some cues such as Map Room is and the edited Desert Chase. (I think) I wonder if Shawn Murphy used Neal's mixes altogether.. 

[Jay 37,249]

16 hours ago, Amer said:

I had no idea John Neal had actually mixed the entire score before locking the program to the single Lp release we know of today.

 

I never said he remixed the entire score. I speculated that maybe he remixed the entire cues that were represented on the OST, rather than just the sections of those cues that were on the OST

 

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The Concord release of RAIDERS does show case the John Neal mixes on some cues such as Map Room is and the edited Desert Chase. (I think) I wonder if Shawn Murphy used Neal's mixes altogether.. 

 

Shawn Murphy had nothing to do with the 2008 Concord boxset, that was a Laurent Bouzereau production 

[bruce marshall 1,314]

WWMMD?

[Amer 2,078]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

 

I never said he remixed the entire score. I speculated that maybe he remixed the entire cues that were represented on the OST, rather than just the sections of those cues that were on the OST

 

 

Shawn Murphy had nothing to do with the 2008 Concord boxset, that was a Laurent Bouzereau production 

Then why is Shawn mentioned as the Soundtrack Reissue Engineer??? I know Bouzereau is the executive producer of this set. Also both Eric Tomlinson and John Neal are clearly mentioned as to their roles in the original recordings.

[Jay 37,249]

Ha!  I had looked in the booklet that was in the overall box set, which doesn't mention him at all; I see how he's mentioned on the booklet inside the Raiders digipak only.  My apologies!

 

I have no idea if it would have been Murphy or Bouzereau who would decide which version of each cue to use >shrug<

[bruce marshall 1,314]

WWLBD?