Anyone here succumbed to 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray?

[Mr. Who 919]

1 hour ago, AC1 said:

I went from a 50" Plasma/Blu-ray player to a 65" OLED/Blu-ray 4K  player and felt that older movies on Blu-ray show their age much more on the latter. You can see their flaws (grain, noise, etc) much easier. Needless to say it gets even worse with DVDs. DVD was never made with a 65" screen in mind. Newer movies on Blu-ray, like Blade Runner: 2049, look pretty good though.

That doesn’t sound good lol. It’s impossible to get a 1080P TV these days so I think 4K is the only option.

 

I would not buy OLED though as it’s way too expensive. I’ll probably get something cheaper from Samsung like QLED Q60 or TU8050 which aren’t really high-end models.

 

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

eBay is full of 1080p TVs.  Pick up a used Panasonic 1080p plasma and you’ll get a stellar picture.

[Mr. Who 919]

7 minutes ago, Nick1066 said:

eBay is full of 1080p TVs.  Pick up a used Panasonic 1080p plasma and you’ll get a stellar picture.

eBay doesn’t exist where I live and the second hand sites mainly sell 4K TVs at that screen size.

 

I will try to go to a store and check out 1080P playback to get an idea.

[A24 4,322]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Who said:

That doesn’t sound good lol. It’s impossible to get a 1080P TV these days so I think 4K is the only option.

 

I would not buy OLED though as it’s way too expensive. I’ll probably get something cheaper from Samsung like QLED Q60 or TU8050 which aren’t really high-end models.

 

 

OLED is getting increasingly cheaper though ... Have you checked?

[Mr. Who 919]

1 hour ago, AC1 said:

 

OLED is getting increasingly cheaper though ... Have you checked?

Yeah, sadly my budget is around 600-800 euros so I can’t get OLED for that price. The old TV was from 2012 so even a lower tier model should be better I’d think.
 

I’m mainly worried about the upscaling but it’ll probably be fine. The Sony blu ray upscaler that I’m looking at got good reviews so it should be better than playing a blu ray in a regular 1080P player and letting the TV do the upscaling.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

4 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

eBay is full of 1080p TVs.  Pick up a used Panasonic 1080p plasma and you’ll get a stellar picture.

My neighborhood FB page has tons of people GIVING AWAY their tv's.

That's how I got mine!

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

Yeah used non-4K sets are dirt cheap and plentiful. If you have no need for a UHD TV there’s no reason to drop the coin on one. There are some plasma models that have gorgeous blacks and will give you a better picture than a cheap 4K screen. Get a nice 1080p set & pick up a streaming stick and you’re good to go. 

[bruce marshall 1,314]

I only use mine as a monitor - no streaming or tv.

Very pleased😊

[A24 4,322]

 

There's a risk involved when buying 10+ year old Plasma TVs. Their power boards may give up any time. Better buy a used OLED that is not so old, even though you're likely to find way more 55" screens than 65", since many people are upsizing. 65" is becoming the new 55".

[Mr. Who 919]

Yes I generally avoid second hand electronics, unless it's very recent stuff and preferably unused

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

3 hours ago, AC1 said:

 

There's a risk involved when buying 10+ year old Plasma TVs. Their power boards may give up any time. Better buy a used OLED that is not so old, even though you're likely to find way more 55" screens than 65", since many people are upsizing. 65" is becoming the new 55".

 

Yeah but a 1080p plasma (or LED) TV can be had for 50-100 quid. If not free.

 

As a general rule, I don't buy used electronics.  But that said IMO you're taking a lot more of a chance spending 500+ on a used OLED than 50 on a used plasma. No way I'd spend that much money on a used TV. If your budget won't allow a new one better to skip the OLED altogether and buy a new QLED or other decent set.

[Mr. Who 919]

39 minutes ago, Nick1066 said:

 

Yeah but a 1080p plasma (or LED) TV can be had for 50-100 quid. If not free.

 

As a general rule, I don't buy used electronics.  But that said IMO you're taking a lot more of a chance spending 500+ on a used OLED than 50 on a used plasma. No way I'd spend that much money on a used TV. If your budget won't allow a new one better to skip the OLED altogether and buy a new QLED or other decent set.

Yeah, I have yet to see any 1080P TVs go for that little so I think a QLED Q60 (or Q70 if there's a good deal) will be the way to go. Coming from a 42 inch Samsung from 2012, even the less expensive new models should be an upgrade + the size increase should be a big upgrade.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

Unless you have a sixty inch set, 1080 should suffice

[A24 4,322]

 

If it was up to me, I would buy a 55" screen that can produce the image quality that I want over a similarly priced 65" LED TV. Then again, I'm a TV and audio snob. I prefer quality over size. It's the reason why I stopped going to the multiplexes a long time ago. The screens were big, the sound and seats were great, but the IQ was embarrassingly bad. It made me long for the old theatres (before the multiplexes) when seats and sound were bad but the projection quality was beautiful (at least, during the first week it was, when prints were still fresh).

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

7 minutes ago, AC1 said:

I prefer quality over size.

 

That's what she said!

[JoeinAR 1,949]

I double dipped and got the Jaws 4K steelbook for $13.00. I told myself I wouldn't double dip but it was Jaws, and the steelcase. I will do it for Titanic. i did it for Superman. 

[rough cut 1,714]

$13 doesn’t seem that pricey.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

To me it seemed a bargain. 

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,488]

14 hours ago, rough cut said:

$13 doesn’t seem that pricey.

It's about £9. Bar, and, most definitely, gain 

[A24 4,322]

I'm not really interested in buying it but I hear My Fair Lady (70mm) truly looks incredible in 4K. 

 

 

[bruce marshall 1,314]

Just had another bluray disc fail and had to watch the sd.😠

Very reliable format😒

 

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Just stick to your DVDs. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,488]

On 5/20/2021 at 6:23 AM, AC1 said:

I'm not really interested in buying it but I hear My Fair Lady (70mm) truly looks incredible in 4K. 

 

 

You should probably buy it, Alex.

[A24 4,322]

None of you are buying it so why should I?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Because you clearly love it, and Previn got an Oscar for his musical adaptation.

[A24 4,322]

It's not really my kind of movie. I'm just somewhat intrigued because of the appraisal I've heard about the image quality. Maybe this would be good news for you and the other fans here.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

I don't mind watching Audrey at her prime for a few hours.

[A24 4,322]

Even if it costs you 30 Euro?

[bruce marshall 1,314]

5 hours ago, Koray Savas said:

Just stick to your DVDs. 

On a 45 inch monitor they look just fine!😊

[A24 4,322]

 

This reviewer is surprised that John Williams the composer didn't get an Oscar for The Deer Hunter. 

[JoeinAR 1,949]

John wrote 3 scores better than any music in the vastly overrated Deer Hunter.

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

Just three?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

A slow year.

[A24 4,322]

I love the theme of The Deer Hunter and it never crossed my mind to compare it with Williams' music. 

 

 

But I understand it's not for the average bombast seeker.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

A lot of people think it was written by John Williams.

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

So this is a thing that's coming.  What's inside the box...?

 

[Jay 37,249]

Your image isn't showing

[filmmusic 1,822]

4 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

What's inside the box...?

DISC ONE - FEATURE & EXTRAS (4K ULTRA HD BLU-RAY)
4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray™ presentation in Dolby Vision (HDR10 compatible)
Original uncompressed stereo audio and DTS-HD MA 5.1 surround audio
Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard-of-hearing
Brand new audio commentary by film historian Paul M. Sammon
Brand new audio commentary by Mike White of The Projection Booth podcast
Impressions of Dune, a 2003 documentary on the making of the film, featuring interviews with star Kyle MacLachlan, producer Raffaella de Laurentiis, cinematographer Freddie Francis, editor Antony Gibbs and many others
Designing Dune, a 2005 featurette looking back at the work of production designer Anthony Masters
Dune FX, a 2005 featurette exploring the special effects in the film
Dune Models & Miniatures, a 2005 featurette focusing on the model effects in the film
Dune Costumes, a 2005 featurette looking at the elaborate costume designs seen in the film
Thirteen deleted scenes from the film, with a 2005 introduction by Raffaella de Laurentiis
Destination Dune, a 1983 featurette originally produced to promote the film at conventions and publicity events
Theatrical trailers and TV spots
Extensive image galleries, including hundreds of still photos

DISC TWO – BONUS DISC (BLU-RAY)
The Sleeper Must Awaken: Making Dune, a brand new feature-length documentary by Ballyhoo Motion Pictures exploring the making of the film, featuring dozens of new and archive interviews with cast and crew
Beyond Imagination: Merchandising Dune, a brand new featurette exploring the merchandise created to promote the film, featuring toy collector/producer Brian Sillman (The Toys That Made Us)
Prophecy Fulfilled: Scoring Dune, a brand new featurette on the film’s music score, featuring interviews with Toto guitarist Steve Lukather, Toto keyboardist Steve Porcaro, and film music historian Tim Greiving
Brand new interview with make-up effects artist Giannetto de Rossi, filmed in 2020
Archive interview with production coordinator Golda Offenheim, filmed in 2003
Archive interview with star Paul Smith, filmed in 2008
Archive interview with make-up effects artist Christopher Tucker

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

Nope. Nice try.

 

What's in the box?

[Corellian2019 383]

Congrats to @Charlie Brigden for having his essay included in the book!

[Jay 37,249]

In addition to the 2-disc version shown and described above, there's a 3-disc version coming too (with much better cover art)

 

 

DUNE (UK 4K UHD Blu-ray/Blu-ray Dual Format Deluxe Steelbook Zavvi Exclusive)

 

A Place Beyond Your Dreams.

 

A Movie Beyond Your Imagination.

 

Following a notorious aborted attempt by Alejandro Jodorowsky in the 1970s, Frank Herbert’s bestselling sci-fi epic Dune finally made it to the big screen as the third film by emerging surrealist wunderkind David Lynch, featuring an all-star cast that includes several of Lynch’s regular collaborators.

 

The year is 10,191, and four planets are embroiled in a secret plot to wrest control of the Spice Melange, the most precious substance in the universe and found only on the planet Arrakis. A feud between two powerful dynasties, House Atreides and House Harkonnen, is manipulated from afar by ruling powers that conspire to keep their grip on the spice. As the two families clash on Arrakis, Duke Atreides’ son Paul (Kyle MacLachlan, in his screen debut) finds himself at the center of an intergalactic war and an ancient prophecy that could change the galaxy forever.

 

Though its initial reception ensured that Lynch largely eschewed mainstream filmmaking for the rest of his career, Dune has since been rightly re-evaluated as one of the most startlingly original and visionary science fiction films of the 1980s. Its astonishing production design and visual effects can now be appreciated anew in this spellbinding 4K restoration, accompanied by hours of comprehensive bonus features.

 

Special Features:

• Brand new 4K restoration from the original camera negative
• 60-page perfect-bound book featuring new writing on the film by Andrew Nette, Christian McCrea and Charlie Brigden, an American Cinematographer interview with sound designer Alan Splet from 1984, excerpts from an interview with the director from Chris Rodley’s book Lynch on Lynch and a Dune Terminology glossary from the original release
• 100-page perfect-bound book featuring original pre-production concepts and designs by Anthony Masters and Ron Miller, and an interview with Masters from the film’s press kit
• Large fold-out double-sided poster featuring original theatrical poster artwork
• Six double-sided, postcard-sized lobby card reproductions
• Limited edition SteelBook housed in Deluxe rigid packaging, both with original theatrical artwork

DISCS ONE & TWO - FEATURE & EXTRAS (BLU-RAY + 4K ULTRA HD BLU-RAY)

• 4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray™ presentation in Dolby Vision (HDR10 compatible) and High Definition (1080p) Blu-ray presentation
• Original uncompressed stereo audio and DTS-HD MA 5.1 surround audio
• Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard-of-hearing
• Brand new audio commentary by film historian Paul M. Sammon
• Brand new audio commentary by Mike White of The Projection Booth podcast
• Impressions of Dune, a 2003 documentary on the making of the film, featuring interviews with star Kyle MacLachlan, producer Raffaella de Laurentiis, cinematographer Freddie Francis, editor Antony Gibbs and many others
• Designing Dune, a 2005 featurette looking back at the work of production designer Anthony Masters
• Dune FX, a 2005 featurette exploring the special effects in the film
• Dune Models & Miniatures, a 2005 featurette focusing on the model effects in the film
• Dune Costumes, a 2005 featurette looking at the elaborate costume designs seen in the film
• Thirteen deleted scenes from the film, with a 2005 introduction by Raffaella de Laurentiis
• Destination Dune, a 1983 featurette originally produced to promote the film at conventions and publicity events
• Theatrical trailers and TV spots
• Extensive image galleries, including hundreds of still photos

DISC THREE – BONUS DISC (BLU-RAY)

• The Sleeper Must Awaken: Making Dune, a brand new feature-length documentary by Ballyhoo Motion Pictures exploring the making of the film, featuring dozens of new and archive interviews with cast and crew
• Beyond Imagination: Merchandising Dune, a brand new featurette exploring the merchandise created to promote the film, featuring toy collector/producer Brian Sillman (The Toys That Made Us)
• Prophecy Fulfilled: Scoring Dune, a brand new featurette on the film’s music score, featuring interviews with Toto guitarist Steve Lukather, Toto keyboardist Steve Porcaro, and film music historian Tim Greiving
• Brand new interview with make-up effects artist Giannetto de Rossi, filmed in 2020
• Archive interview with production coordinator Golda Offenheim, filmed in 2003
• Archive interview with star Paul Smith, filmed in 2008
• Archive interview with make-up effects artist Christopher Tucker

*** EXTRAS STILL IN PRODUCTION AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE ***

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

26 minutes ago, Jay said:

A Place Beyond Your Dreams.

 

A Movie Beyond Your Imagination.

 

I've always thought these taglines were a little presumptuous.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Who could have imagined it would be that bad?

[A24 4,322]

Are you going to let them say that, Richard?!

[bruce marshall 1,314]

2 hours ago, AC1 said:

Are you going to let them say that, Richard?!

"In his heart, he knows Shark is right"

[Manakin Skywalker 4,889]

Sucks that it won't include the extended cut, but not unexpected.

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

Yeah. Alan Smithee cut or no sale!

[Manakin Skywalker 4,889]

Alan Smithee is an incredible director, it's amazing how many projects he's worked on over the last 70 years! And he's also worked in every single department!

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

Interesting update about this set. Apparently the German "ultimate edition" of Dune will include two different versions of the Extended Edition (in HD only, not 4K), as well as the soundtrack, which like the Extended Edition is not included in the US release.

 

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And here’s a bit of frustrating news for fans of David Lynch’s Dune in the States: It appears that Koch Media in Germany will release a special 7-disc Dune: Ultimate Edition box set featuring the newly-restored Theatrical Cut in 4K Ultra HD and Blu-ray, along with 2 Blu-ray discs of bonus features, TWO different versions of the Extended TV Edition on Blu-ray (apparently restored in HD mostly from film, with some portions sourced from analog video tape where film no longer exists), and the film’s soundtrack on CD.

 

[Corellian2019 383]

Makes one wish that one of the labels was working on the complete score to Dune