The Art of the Score Podcast Thread

[crumbs 15,763]

Woohoo! I just re-listened to part 1 again today! 

[bollemanneke 4,137]

Oh my, so much to listen to. I haven't even finished your BTTF episode!

[Holko 11,672]

The Knight Bus accordion part with pipe organ or something is great!

[Disco Stu 15,514]

We’re living in such a different world from when Part 1 was released!!  Listening to this episode this morning  

[Holko 11,672]

From "many-limbed creature" motifs to tongueing secrets and Dubsie, this was an absolutely hilarious episode, with some great score bits and comparisons of course! @PoggoAOTS, I think you just got yourselves a listener who never followed any podcasts and only started listening to individual interesting episodes last week.

 

Oh and that finale! Where's the edit of longer Hedwig last note+film Double Trouble insert come from? That's actually my preferred way of having it but the album has no insert and the film has a shorter Hedwig.

[TSMefford 1,596]

3 hours ago, Holko said:

From "many-limbed creature" motifs to tongueing secrets and Dubsie, this was an absolutely hilarious episode, with some great score bits and comparisons of course! I think you just got yourselves a listener who never followed any podcasts and started listening to individal interesting episodes last week.

 

Oh and that finale! Where's the edit of longer Hedwig last note+film Double Trouble insert come from? That's actually my preferred way of having it but the album has no insert and the film has a shorter Hedwig.

 

It was indeed hilarious so far. I haven't made it to the end yet, but the edit you described sounds fantastic. I was disappointed to hear the LLL version mimics the film and has the short Hedwig's theme note.

[Jay 43,895]

4 hours ago, Holko said:

The Knight Bus accordion part with pipe organ or something is great!

 

Calliope.

[TSMefford 1,596]

3 hours ago, Holko said:

Oh and that finale! Where's the edit of longer Hedwig last note+film Double Trouble insert come from? That's actually my preferred way of having it but the album has no insert and the film has a shorter Hedwig.

 

Finally got to this! It is a nice edit. But it wasn't what I was thinking it was. Isn't there an even longer ending note for Hedwig's Theme there that was used in some online game way back @Jay? How does that play into the End Credits piece?

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

So now we're discussing the length of the ending notes? Geez!

[TSMefford 1,596]

3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

So now we're discussing the length of the ending notes? Geez!

 

It's not a big deal. I'm just curious where that version came from.

[Josh500 1,620]

5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

So now we're discussing the length of the ending notes? Geez!

 

😂 

[Jay 43,895]

11 minutes ago, TSMefford said:

 

Finally got to this! It is a nice edit. But it wasn't what I was thinking it was. Isn't there an even longer ending note for Hedwig's Theme there that was used in some online game way back @Jay? How does that play into the End Credits piece?

 

I know nothing about what might have showed up in the video game.

The LLL set uses the cues as recorded, no film edits are retained.

[Holko 11,672]

I presume the end of the original Firebolt has the longer Hedwig sustained note since it's on the OST.

[TSMefford 1,596]

Just now, Jay said:

 

I know nothing about what might have showed up in the video game.

The LLL set uses the cues as recorded, no film edits are retained.

 

There seems to be a film edit in the Firebolt / End Credits sample they posted. The last note of Hedwig's theme sounds cut off (as it does in the film) when they put the insert in.

 

However, on the OST and in the recent Art of the Score, the note lasts longer. 

[Jay 43,895]

Since the makers of this podcast only have a stem of the final film and the OST, and not the LLL set, I'd imagine they just combined the OST full Hedwig's Theme with iso score rip End Credits Insert for the podcast.

[TSMefford 1,596]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

Since the makers of this podcast only have a stem of the final film and the OST, and not the LLL set, I'd imagine they just combined the OST full Hedwig's Theme with iso score rip End Credits Insert for the podcast.

 

I can't wait for this set, so I can stop having so many damn questions. XD

[igger6 1,024]

Love this podcast to death, love these episodes especially!  You guys have added so much joy to my life this past year or two. 

 

Now that @PoggoAOTS is on the forum, I can finally ask the question that's been bugging me since the beginning: what is the AOTS theme music?  It's right up there with Underscore, Cinematic Sound, and The Soundtrack Show for melodic quality, but it blows them out of the water in sound quality.  Is that an actual orchestra playing it?  If so, is it performed under the buc-ton of Maestro Nicholas Buc himself?  And where did it come from, or is it original to your show?

 

Keep up the great work!

[Brundlefly 2,400]

All Harry Potter threads consist of endless discussions and one comment by Jay putting them to an end and clearing up everything.

[Richard P 4,946]

I just picked up the DVD of PoA in an exchange store to familiarise myself with all the unreleased music  

 

And yes, there's definitely a more sustained bit at the end of the Hedwig's statement, but I didn't notice it until it was pointed out. Meh.

[TSMefford 1,596]

1 minute ago, Richard Penna said:

I just picked up the DVD of PoA in an exchange store to familiarise myself with all the unreleased music  

 

And yes, there's definitely a more sustained bit at the end of the Hedwig's statement, but I didn't notice it until it was pointed out. Meh.

 

Lol. It's even longer where it's used in other places outside the film. See here:

 

Not sure if that's the length it was recorded at or if it was looped there.

[Holko 11,672]

The question remains why it's short in the LLL sample if it doesn't recreate film edits. Was it rerecorded with the insert? maybe. Is this in the wrong thread? Absolutely!

[TSMefford 1,596]

2 minutes ago, Holko said:

The question remains why it's short in the LLL sample if it doesn't recrate film edits. Was it rerecorded with the insert? maybe. Is this in the wrong thread? Absolutely!

 

Indeed. I'll take it over to the music thread.

[Once 974]

2 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

All Harry Potter threads consist of endless discussions and one comment by Jay putting them to an end and clearing up everything.

Not so endless then, eh? 😉

[crumbs 15,763]

Woah! What's the very first PoA cue in this podcast at around 0:40?? The beautiful rendition of Window to the Past? I swear I've seen the movie a handful of times and yet I can't place where this cue goes, unless it was practically inaudible in the film. 

 

It sounds like the concert version of WTTP took an excerpt from this.

[TSMefford 1,596]

1 minute ago, crumbs said:

Woah! What's the very first PoA cue in this podcast at around 0:40?? The beautiful rendition of Window to the Past? I swear I've seen the movie a handful of times and yet I can't place where this cue goes, unless it was practically inaudible in the film. 

 

It sounds like the concert version of WTTP took an excerpt from this.

 

I was wondering that as well! I assume we'll find out

[Jay 43,895]

3 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Woah! What's the very first PoA cue in this podcast at around 0:40?? The beautiful rendition of Window to the Past? I swear I've seen the movie a handful of times and yet I can't place where this cue goes, unless it was practically inaudible in the film. 

 

I don't recognize it, must be some other orchestra's re-recording

[TSMefford 1,596]

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

I don't recognize it, must be some other orchestra's re-recording

 

Yup. Found it @crumbs. City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra. Enjoy!

 

 

However, I recommend staying away from their version of The Knight Bus. Honestly all their re-recordings from PoA especially are all played much slower.

[crumbs 15,763]

19 minutes ago, Jay said:

I don't recognize it, must be some other orchestra's re-recording

 

 

 

Any chance you could tell us where this recording of Window to the Past is from, right at the start of the PoA Part 2 podcast? It's beautiful! 

 

EDIT: solved by the wonderful @TSMefford

 

[Jay 43,895]

The post before yours already tells you where to get it?

[TSMefford 1,596]

3 minutes ago, TSMefford said:

 

Yup. Found it @crumbs. City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra. Enjoy!

 

 

However, I recommend staying away from their version of The Knight Bus. Honestly all their re-recordings from PoA especially are all played much slower.

 

@crumbs @crumbs @crumbs

[crumbs 15,763]

Yeah, I'm on a train to work, I hadn't seen @TSMefford 's post before I finished writing my reply.

 

[TSMefford 1,596]

1 minute ago, crumbs said:

Yeah, I'm on a train to work, I hadn't seen @TSMeffordds post before I finished writing my reply.

 

 

Lol. No problem. But seriously, avoid their version of The Knight Bus. It hurts.

[crumbs 15,763]

Did Williams write that concert arrangement?! It's stunning! 

 

Please get that on the next Williams highlights album, Keith Lockhart! 

[Disco Stu 15,514]

Just now, crumbs said:

Did Williams write that concert arrangement?! It's stunning! 

 

Please get that on the next Williams highlights album, Keith Lockhart! 

 

https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490389

 

City of Prague recorded the full suite 10 or so years ago

[crumbs 15,763]

Omg how am I only hearing about these now? I knew about the Double Trouble arrangement but that's it.

 

Why doesn't Williams ever conduct these himself? Seems like such a waste. 

[Disco Stu 15,514]

Just now, crumbs said:

Omg how am I only hearing about these now? I knew about the Double Trouble arrangement but that's it.

 

Why doesn't Williams ever conduct these himself? 

 

I personally enjoy "Witches, Wands, and Wizards."  It's a neat little miniature of highlights including the bird flute solo, the snowball fight, chasing scabbers, and quidditch third year.

[PoggoAOTS 94]

Ha! I was collecting answers to questions as I scrolled down only to find various other people answering them as I went. Very efficient!

 

However...

 

6 hours ago, igger6 said:

Love this podcast to death, love these episodes especially!  You guys have added so much joy to my life this past year or two. 

 

Now that @PoggoAOTS is on the forum, I can finally ask the question that's been bugging me since the beginning: what is the AOTS theme music?  It's right up there with Underscore, Cinematic Sound, and The Soundtrack Show for melodic quality, but it blows them out of the water in sound quality.  Is that an actual orchestra playing it?  If so, is it performed under the buc-ton of Maestro Nicholas Buc himself?  And where did it come from, or is it original to your show?

 

Keep up the great work!

 

Thanks! It's an original composition from Nicholas Buc and it's actually a live recording. The "outro" music is also a Nick Buc tune.

 

I double checked with Nick and he said:

 

Yes, I actually wrote that back in my university days! It was originally the theme for an SBS news and current affairs show called Newsline (which only lasted 6 weeks!). I was concertmaster of the Melbourne Youth Orchestra at the time and asked if I could quickly put up a couple of mics and record this little thing I wrote. So I jumped up onto the podium to conduct and and we did it in about 20 minutes!

 

 

[bollemanneke 4,137]

10 hours ago, TSMefford said:

 

Lol. No problem. But seriously, avoid their version of The Knight Bus. It hurts.

90% of their stuff hurts.

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

I'll raise to 95%.

[Holko 11,672]

The Bird flute used in the podcast wasn't painful, it made me laugh uncontrollably.

[crumbs 15,763]

Even funnier knowing it was probably take 73.

[redishere 698]

Just realized part 2 was released! Gonna listen to it right now: can’t wait to catch up on some good ol’ JWF debate afterwards 😍

[redishere 698]

@PoggoAOTS

 

Devoured your latest episode; started following your podcast a few days ago, and I’m really enjoying it a lot. I usually listen to it while I’m doing the dishes (ugh) or going for a walk on the countryside (much better).

 

Great, great job, guys!

[crumbs 15,763]

Yep another great episode! Certainly making the wait for LLL's Potter set that little more tolerable.

 

Speaking of, @PoggoAOTS hope you've seen the huge 7CD expanded Harry Potter/John Williams set that LaLa Land Records announced. No doubt you'll have a few copies turning up at the MSO office! 😎

[PoggoAOTS 94]

On 12/6/2018 at 8:10 AM, crumbs said:

Yep another great episode! Certainly making the wait for LLL's Potter set that little more tolerable.

 

Speaking of, @PoggoAOTS hope you've seen the huge 7CD expanded Harry Potter/John Williams set that LaLa Land Records announced. No doubt you'll have a few copies turning up at the MSO office! 😎

 

I have indeed! Exciting times - looks to be a gorgeous collection too. 

[crumbs 15,763]

@PoggoAOTS Any chance of another podcast in the near future? Starting to have withdrawals 😛

 

Sadly I couldn't attend the Empire Strikes Back MSO concerts but it'd be great to hear you guys break down that score. Especially considering how few Williams scores you've covered...

[Trumpeteer 304]

On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 7:24 PM, crumbs said:

@PoggoAOTS Any chance of another podcast in the near future? Starting to have withdrawals 😛

 

Sadly I couldn't attend the Empire Strikes Back MSO concerts but it'd be great to hear you guys break down that score. Especially considering how few Williams scores you've covered...

 

I agree that there has been too much of a break between episodes. I have enjoyed their discussions.

 

In the meantime, take a listen to my podcast that journeys through John Williams' career, one film at a time. Each episode comes out each Wednesday, so no severe withdrawals. Go to this link to check out the episodes. It's all John Williams, all the time!!!

 

[bollemanneke 4,137]

They should do Titanic.

[crumbs 15,763]

How cool is this? AOTS podcaster Nicholas Buc, who conducts basically all of Williams' live-to-picture scores in Australia (and I think other countries too), got to meet Williams last September! Love the colourful suspenders 😀

 

 

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

I gotta get a pair of those jazzy suspenders!