Bellosh 3,317 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Growing up this was always my favorite cue. I would listen to this track and look up at the stars in the night sky, wondering what the future held. It's soooooooo good. The scene always kinda messed with me though. It's actually really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,456 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Each tracks of The Last Jedi. haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 57 minutes ago, Bespin said: Each tracks of The Last Jedi. haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Now that we have the full scope of JW’s Star Wars work it seems time to bump this thread. I’ll have to come up with a definitive ranking at some point, but I’ll say the one that stands out to me from TROS is this Its not often we get a rendition of the theme’s full statement, but here Williams provides it with ample gusto for what is essentially the climactic moment of the saga. Docteur Qui and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 yeah, and also the Reunion one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,097 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 How about what's your current favorite statement from each of the nine films? 1: Anakin is Free 2: Padme Falls 3. Goodbye Old Friend 4. Binary Sunset (duh) 5. Losing a Hand 6. Leia Breaks the News (film version) 7. Flying Home 8. Ladies Parting 9. Seeing Sights Ludwig and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 7,930 Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 When it comes to the Force theme ROTS itself could fill several top 5 spots on the all time best appearances. Karol Arpy, Cerebral Cortex, Falstaft and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Falstaft (hiatus til TROS) said: How about what's your current favorite statement from each of the nine films? 1: Anakin is Free 2: Padme Falls 3. Goodbye Old Friend 4. Binary Sunset (duh) 5. Losing a Hand 6. Leia Breaks the News (film version) 7. Flying Home 8. Ladies Parting 9. Seeing Sights I think this may be my exact choices as well, except for potentially TLJ, where I might swap in Peace and Purpose. Falstaft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 What is Seeing Sights? Is that when Palpatine opens the roof of the Sith temple? One of my favorite versions is The Throne Room at the end of ANH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ludwig 1,120 Posted January 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2020 12 hours ago, crocodile said: When it comes to the Force theme ROTS itself could fill several top 5 spots on the all time best appearances. On that note, this one hasn't been mentioned yet, but it's one of my faves because it reveals yet another emotional possibility for this most malleable of themes: besides being able to be wistful, sorrowful, mystical, militaristic, and heroic, this one is downright sinister! It's when Yoda is telling Anakin that fear of loss (i.e., Anakin's nightmare) is a path to the Dark Side. And I can't help mentioning that this is, I believe, the only time in the entire saga that the end of the 2nd phrase is harmonized with a minor bvii chord - similar to the "tragic" major bII chord it gets throughout most of this film, but with an even darker hue, perfectly matching the association of the theme with, oddly enough, the Dark Side. Falstaft, crlbrg and Arpy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 8/6/2019 at 11:03 PM, Bellosh said: It's soooooooo good. The scene always kinda messed with me though. It's actually really sad. Hey, the SE albums are back on Spotify! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,317 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Hey, the SE albums are back on Spotify! Lots of tracks are missing though. Look at ESB's, most of the tracks aren't available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bellosh said: Lots of tracks are missing though. Look at ESB's, most of the tracks aren't available. I can't find it, link please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,317 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I can't find it, link please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 This statement at 2:53, the way Williams has harnonized it is so spine-tinglingly magical! Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Bellosh said: Thanks. Nine tracks are available to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,317 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I've always love the subdued statement of the Force theme in 'General Grievous' @ 0:39 darkspine10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 889 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 On 12/31/2019 at 11:56 PM, Bellosh said: Lots of tracks are missing though. Look at ESB's, most of the tracks aren't available. Ugh. Streaming is the worst. Wake up, world!! Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 The title says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragoz350 450 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 del Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,242 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I'm a little over "The Princess Appears". OK, I'm not, but it's always the de facto statement of the theme these days even though as this thread demonstrates there's a lot more. RotS - RoS killed it a bit for me. And I hate the title Binary Sunset. I find it funny when you see people say "This is Binary Sunset on a harmonica!" and they really just mean they're playing the Force theme because there's nothing in it that is unique to Lost R2. As much as we played The Princess Appears back in the day, The Throne Room has always been the one that gets my heart pounding. But then don't underestimate Blasting Off either. And Rebels gave me a new appreciation for Obi-Wan Kenobi. Oh, and when Vader grabs The Emperor. Wowza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 4/12/2018 at 2:55 AM, artguy360 said: The big statement of the theme towards the end as Luke calls out to Leia is another one of my favorites. I love how the strings soar above the clouds and how the music quiets down just as Luke concentrates with the force before the big statement kicks in. On 4/12/2018 at 2:52 PM, luKe17879 said: I always thought this version from Anakin is Free (TPM) was very beautiful, beginning at 4:44. (King Mark mentioned it as well, here is the snippet) These are the first two I thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,277 Posted July 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2021 Mine will be forever the Rebel fleet beginning of the TESB finale. Nick1Ø66, Tallguy, Jurassic Shark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,220 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Not sure I can add any more obvious or less obvious versions of the theme than those mentioned but my feeling is thats it’s much more the main theme of the series than the actual main theme. It certainly appears far more often than the main theme (as is evidenced here) and his a mythic, mystical quality that feels far more appropriate somehow. Disney seem to agree given that they use it for their Star Wars ident in front of the Mandalorian etc and it appears more heavily in the trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,242 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Not sure I can add any more obvious or less obvious versions of the theme than those mentioned but my feeling is thats it’s much more the main theme of the series than the actual main theme. Certainly once you move past the OT. Powell played the Main theme more than anyone in years. I do remember a few years ago I was shocked that the only themes in The Last Battle before Biggs dies are Ben's theme (Force theme), the Star Wars Vader theme, and the Death Star motif! Luke's theme is played once after Biggs dies and then really takes over once Luke turns off the targeting computer. 3 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Disney seem to agree given that they use it for their Star Wars ident in front of the Mandalorian etc and it appears more heavily in the trailers. Yeah, in its "just different enough we don't have to pay Williams" form. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,277 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: ...but my feeling is thats it’s much more the main theme of the series than the actual main theme. The theme would have been my favourite opening theme for the prequel trilogy instead of the Star Wars / Luke's theme. It would have been the perfect compromise between the aim to provide something familiar and have something that does not contradict the musics relation as a Leitmotif in the story. Even as Ben's theme it would have made sense as the opening fanfare in episodes 1-3. Probably something like the Throne Room version. Then all the renditions of the theme in the OT would perfectly make sense in combination with the prequels as their main theme. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Yup! I really wish each trilogy had a new main title march instead of using Luke's theme for all 9 episodes GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,895 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I think they had considered changing the opening theme for the prequel trilogy, but ultimately decided against it. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,663 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 6 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Mine will be forever the Rebel fleet beginning of the TESB finale. This is the correct answer. On this topic there can be no debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,895 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I dunno, I stick with Binary Sunset. One of the great moments in music; sadly cheapened by copy-paste-ing it all over The Last Jedi, but the original is still a masterstroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,663 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Binary Sunset is Binary Sunset because of the binary sunsets. Taken without the visuals, Rebel Fleet stirs the soul more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blondheim 1,157 Posted July 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2021 Rebel Fleet also has arguably the best rendition of Han Solo and the Princess Tiburon, Chen G., Tallguy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,895 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Binary Sunset is Binary Sunset because of the binary sunsets. Taken without the visuals, Rebel Fleet stirs the soul more. I'm not sure. I like Binary Sunset even without the effect; plus, it is even fair to judge a piece of music written for a film without the visuals for which it was written? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chen G. said: it is even fair to judge a piece of music written for a film without the visuals for which it was written? Do you know where you are? Nick1Ø66 and Tallguy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,663 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Chen G. said: it is even fair to judge a piece of music written for a film without the visuals for which it was written? Of course it's fair. How can you even ask? You know better than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,467 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Jay said: Yup! I really wish each trilogy had a new main title march instead of using Luke's theme for all 9 episodes 8 hours ago, GerateWohl said: The theme would have been my favourite opening theme for the prequel trilogy instead of the Star Wars / Luke's theme. It would have been the perfect compromise between the aim to provide something familiar and have something that does not contradict the musics relation as a Leitmotif in the story. Even as Ben's theme it would have made sense as the opening fanfare in episodes 1-3. Probably something like the Throne Room version. Then all the renditions of the theme in the OT would perfectly make sense in combination with the prequels as their main theme. Seem's slightly sacrilegious but I have pondered this. I think for the sequel trilogy there are actually 2 candidates - a full on bells and whistles military version of Rey's Theme or the Resistance March. Both could EASILY be turned into great main titles. I don't know what'd be a candidate from the prequel trilogy. It would necessarily have to be a theme from the first movie since the scores are not conceptualized together but per movie. I feel there is no obvious candidate hence they went with Luke's theme again. Even so, the opening note so iconic that a Star Wars movie is unimaginable without it. There is nothing like it in cinema. It almost always with draw applause from audiences in a screening. It is irreplaceable and cannot be improved upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 The only real "what if" moment I have for all 9 of these scores is the finale of TROS. The final lead-in to the final end credits in the final film in the Star Wars saga and we got a straight reprise? It sticks in my craw every listen. It has to be a musical middle finger to J.J. It's the only way I can make peace with it, if you can call it peace. What a missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,242 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 11 hours ago, GerateWohl said: The theme would have been my favourite opening theme for the prequel trilogy instead of the Star Wars / Luke's theme. It would have been the perfect compromise between the aim to provide something familiar and have something that does not contradict the musics relation as a Leitmotif in the story. Even as Ben's theme it would have made sense as the opening fanfare in episodes 1-3. Probably something like the Throne Room version. You know, I'm now seeing this as a huge missed opportunity. Williams' own notes on the Throne Room said (paraphrasing from memory) that he used Ben's Theme for that because this represented a restoration of Ben's time and ideals. Using Ben's / The Force / The Jedi(?) theme as the prequel titles would have made this literal. Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 The force theme is the obvious choice for what should have been the prequel trilogy's main title march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,220 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Aside from the audience expectation of having the main Star Wars theme over the opening title crawl, I can’t help think that any alternative would be trying to capture lightning in a bottle twice. The original is so iconic in the actual melodic content itself, it’s also perfectly timed to the text. From the musical explosion as “Star Wars” suddenly appears, to the various ways it segues into the opening scene, it would be hard to recapture that level of excitement and anticipation even in JW’s expert compositional hands. It is perhaps a touch surprising to consider that the Force Theme has almost become the musical cornerstone of the franchise yet has never got a concert arrangement. Jay and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,242 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: It is perhaps a touch surprising to consider that the Force Theme has almost become the musical cornerstone of the franchise yet has never got a concert arrangement. You're not counting The Throne Room? (Not kidding.) Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bored 295 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I personally think its uses in Revenge of the Sith are underrated: I love when Williams takes the usually hopeful Force theme and manages it to make it completely dark and disturbing. It fits so well for a lot of Anakin's moments. Bayesian and ragoz350 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,220 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Tallguy said: You're not counting The Throne Room? (Not kidding.) I think that’s more a version of it in context than an arrangement dedicated to the the theme. But I take your point. I kinda wonder if it might not suit a concert arrangement but I’m pretty sure JW could write a great one if he was so minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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