Josh500 1,615 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 What are the highlight of this score? What do you like or dislike about this? Gotta admit, I own this score, but I have never listened to it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Solid four stars. Very unique score in Williams' ouvere. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, crocodile said: Solid four stars. Very unique score in Williams' ouvere. Which tracks or cues are the highlights, in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 So nobody has an opinion on this score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 A solid 3. Love the fugue stuff, and some of the somber thriller tracks, but otherwise, it's not a score that does much for me. I think it was better represented in the old 90s Silva suite. But I obviously have the FSM nonetheless. The film is mediocre, at best, but with some tenative potential. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 It’s one of my favorite Williams scores. While not very similar directly, I find it written in a similar vein to Images. Dark, thrilling, suspense with a touch of melody. I’m not too familiar with the breakdown of the FSM release. I discovered the bootleg years ago when I first started listening to scores, and mostly listened to that. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Williams at his most Goldsmithian, jagged rhythms abound. The best cues, relatively speaking: Commando Raid 5:30 It Was Good/Dahlia Arrives/The Unloading 3:11 Preparations 2:42 The Blimp and the Bomb 3:12 Air Chase (Part 1) 1:12 Air Chase (Parts 2 and 3)/The Blimp Hits 7:19 The Explosion 2:36 End Title 2:15 Thor is right, the old Prague recording by William Motzing combines all the bet stuff in a 15-minute suite. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 13 hours ago, Josh500 said: Gotta admit, I own this score, but I have never listened to it so far. Why in Christ's name did you create a poll about it, then? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said: Why in Christ's name did you create a poll about it, then? To find out what people think of this score and how they rate it? What else? What kind of dumb question is that? 😂 5 hours ago, publicist said: Williams at his most Goldsmithian, jagged rhythms abound. The best cues, relatively speaking: Commando Raid 5:30 It Was Good/Dahlia Arrives/The Unloading 3:11 Preparations 2:42 The Blimp and the Bomb 3:12 Air Chase (Part 1) 1:12 Air Chase (Parts 2 and 3)/The Blimp Hits 7:19 The Explosion 2:36 End Title 2:15 Thor is right, the old Prague recording by William Motzing combines all the bet stuff in a 15-minute suite. Very helpful, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Bryant Burnette said: Why in Christ's name did you create a poll about it, then? Christ, have mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 It's actually nice to have JW score in your collection that you have never listened to. When you finally DO listen to it, it's like getting a brand-new John Williams score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 14 hours ago, Thor said: I think it was better represented in the old 90s Silva suite. But I obviously have the FSM nonetheless. The suite is indeed good, but it's too bad the playing is sloppy in places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 The fact that the CD has been produced and mixed by Mike Matessino adds those extra little stars needed to pass the test. This is now an essential in our collections. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 17.4.2018 at 8:43 PM, Thor said: But I obviously have the FSM nonetheless. Why obviously? It's a complete score release. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Bespin said: The fact that the CD has been produced and mixed by Mike Matessino adds those extra little stars needed to pass the test. This is now an essential in our collections. The presentation is flawed, though, as they couldn't find good masters for all of the cues, and one cue had to be partially remade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 It's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Okay describes it nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Why obviously? It's a complete score release. But it's also the only album specifically dedicated to that score, and as a title completist, I need to have it. 'Complete' is an unfortunate side-effect. Someone said this was an 'essential' JW album. I don't consider it that at all. Mostly for JW collectors. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 Stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4,5 stars. I really love this suspenseful side of JW. While at the time some critics apparently claimed that Johnny had just copied his shark motif-idea for this film by having essentially a similar terrorist-ostinato figure feature prominently and repeatedly, the score has a lot more going on than just that. The doom-laden, ominous and fateful atmosphere of the whole thing is just delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 A solid 3, from me. I suspect that the most significant thing about BLACK SUNDAY, is where it sits in JW's oeuvre, it being the score right before that score. From relistening to the FSM, its clear that very few people had any idea of what was to happen next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,481 Posted July 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2018 It's always what I loved about John Williams, he provides the right score that fit to the movie, always. And his range is impressive. He can score the most dark movie to the most glorious and epic one... and also those little romantic flicks. He can be discreet sometimes and bombastic when it's needed. He masters the world music too... he can add a savor from any country or region you want: Ireland, Asia, Africa, Israel, Tibet, Americana, UK, Latin America, etc. Classical music, great choral works, jazz, military marches, he can do eveything! He's really like: "What do you want? I will try to do it". Holko, Incanus, Jay and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I adore this score. A perfect 5 from me; definitely on my Williams Top 10. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Not as interesting or as terrifying as Black Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Definitely not top-tier Williams for me, but it certainly has a unique sound. I enjoy it if I'm in the right mood - and not typically all in one sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3.5 stars sounds about right. It is good, maybe even very good, but hardly great. I don't really listen to it. Especially Close Encounters, but also Star Wars from the same year are vastly superior. Maybe I would like it more if I had seen the film, who knows - but after a few listens it falls somewhere among the middle of Williams output. Not top 30 of all time material for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 13 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Not as interesting or as terrifying as Black Friday. #When black Friday comes I stand down by the door And catch the grey men When they dive from the fourteenth Floor # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 2:17 PM, Bespin said: It's always what I loved about John Williams, he provides the right score that fit to the movie, always. No, not always. JOHN GOLDFARB and 1941 are examples of Williams adding to the overkill of the film's aesthetic, instead of restraining it somewhat for better efficiency in the delivery of jokes or action. You could say the same about the John Adams speech scene in AMISTAD. "Lack of restraint" is sometimes Williams' achilles heel. Brundlefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H 24 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 This is such a marvellous score, and such great sound. Like Poseidon I always lamented that there was never an album back in the day. I'm battling to whittle this score down to an LP acceptable 40 mins. Just too many highlights to miss out on! Whomever's idea it was to recreate the end credits edit was pure genius! It gets a solid 4,5 from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edmilson 7,441 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Listened to it years ago, and I remember liking it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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