Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Its very well shot. I'm talking specifically about the "let's have the actors constantly stare at the lens in closeup." Its the sort of thing you should never, ever, EVER do. By all accounts, it should take you out of the movie and be cringe-worthy, cheesy and awful. That it isn't is really a testament to Demme and Fujimoto's talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Wes Anderson is the only other filmmaker I can think of who frequently uses that effect and pulls it off well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Many filmmakers use it momentarily, as a piece of punctuation. But not as a sustained shot, as Demme does. Its somewhere between too balsy and too bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Its a brilliant device to show the growing intimacy between Clarice and Lecter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Does Lecter wanna fuck her or eat her or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 He wants to do both...but not necessarily in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: Its a brilliant device to show the growing intimacy between Clarice and Lecter. Its primarily a device meant to unnerve the audience, because you're really not used to people staring into the lens. Second, it puts the audience in Clarice's shoes in the most literal way. Its anything but subtle, but it works. And last, it feeds into the underlying theme of the male gaze, again quite literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 "Unnerve"? It's among the most unintentionally funny films, ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 10 hours ago, John said: Yes, the cinematography is definitely one of the film’s greatest strengths. Even in grotesque scenes like the shot above, there is a macabre sort of beauty in the framing and lighting. There's a few memorable shots but a lot of it looks kind of dated like an old TV movie, IMO. The greatest strength is of course Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Horror is a very subjective genre. I personally don't find all that scary, but I've seen it work its magic on others. By far the scariest shot of Hannibal is this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Chen G. said: Horror is a very subjective genre. I personally don't find all that scary, but I've seen it work its magic on others. By far the scariest shot of Hannibal is this: Hannibal himself isn't really scary, but when you first watched it and it was all still novelty, you didn't think the scenes with the serial killer and the girl were tense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just when I first saw it?! I still get dilated pupils when Catherine starts screaming in the well. But one or two really tense moments don't make the film as a whole all that scary to me. I enjoy it more as the story of Clarice and as THE most expertly crafted crime thriller, than I do as a horror film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: But one or two really tense moments don't make the film as a whole all that scary to me. I enjoy it more as the story of Clarice and as THE most expertly crafted crime thriller, than I do as a horror film. Would you accept that it's a 'psychological horror-thriller'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2019 I think of it as a film. It transcends genres. Chen G., Naïve Old Fart, John and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 The top one is the neighborhood from, POLTERGEIST, The middle one is a shot from ZODIAC, and the bottom one is the last shot from THE TERMINATOR. Next! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Is that from THE THING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Richard said: Is that from THE THING? Indeed! Gorgeous looking film. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Indeed. Dean Cundey at his very best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I prefer his 90s work like The Flintstones. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Isn't he the one that made Hook look like it's all filmed in a studio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 It was! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 As far as Hook goes, I still love this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Always! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 11:19 AM, Stefancos said: It was! There's one, brief establishing shot of London, and the shot of the 747. The last shot might be location, but I doubt it. There's also the baseball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 The Pan Am gag was immediately dated. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I thought the who point of Hook's production design was that it looked like a big Hollywood pantomime? I actually remember reading that at the time, in an Empire magazine preview (I was only 14, and I remember one of my aunt's friends, whom I had a bit of a crush on, had a collection of them at her house under the coffee table). You only need to look at the establishing shots of Captain Hook's ship to realise how stagey it was all supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 That's because it's all happening inside Banning's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Quintus said: I thought the who point of Hook's production design was that it looked like a big Hollywood pantomime? That a choice is intentional doesn't necessarily make it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Looks cool to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, Chen G. said: That a choice is intentional doesn't necessarily make it good. Sure, except that wasn't my point anyway. I don't think Hook looks great. I hate pantomimes. Sorry if you thought you'd hit the ground running with this sage tidbit of obviousness. My post was more a reply to the implications mentioned above that Hook somehow looks unintentionally interior bound. Mind you, there's a certain fanciful aspect to the London scenes that I quite like, though. There's definitely a touch of movie magic in some of those sets, in full whimsical effect. Dean Cundey's most uninspired lighting was in Jurassic Park. I've already made my thoughts on this known here though. It is a visually serviceable movie, and that's it. Conversely, Cundey is no hack or easily dismissed cameraman either; before his Nineties bland rut he would also photograph early John Carpenter classics and he made the 80s indelible on nostalgic minds forever by way of Back to the Future. So I by no means have got anything against the guy. Unlike say, David Koepp. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A24 4,331 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Steven Spielberg: "I still don't like that movie. I'm hoping some day I'll see it again and perhaps like some of it". Funny that he was also $15 million over budget and 40 days over time with Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Old Spielberg's kind of an idiot when he talks about his movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 So he's the idiot and you are the genius? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Spielberg's a moron who's embarrassed by his actual good movies for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 It's not just his displeasure with classics and silence about Always that annoys me, but also when he talks about his movies describing obvious things that everyone knows as though his audience are retards. He comes across like such a simpleton. He also denied any sort of 9/11 analogy in Munich when the movie ends with the fucking twin towers. I don't know. He needs to get back in the E.T. ride intro and direct us to the interplanetary passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 He's just a geek that was around in the right place at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 My favourite shot: Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 War! It's fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 That's a nice shot, Koray, but what's it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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