MSM 126 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 6:59 PM, Marian Schedenig said: As I mentioned before, they had a little recording session after the Sunday concert, probably just for a few corrections and clean openings/endings to edit into the album versions of the cues. Looks like we're getting the original versions on the concert Blu-ray and the clean ones on the CD. I compared the audio and the video. They seem to be the same recording. I think they indeed just re-recorded the parts that overlap with applause, or they edited them out. They did not correct tiny errors it seems as they are in both versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyprod 86 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Is the Bluray version with the "Full Concert" a limited edition ? Best is to order now, or we can wait a bit (the release date) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 The CD and blu ray come in the same package. There is no other version (other than the vinyl) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 cool, I'll buy this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Should I wait until the Blu-Ray and CD set becomes available to order on Amazon USA, or should I order it now via the official website? Martyprod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 3:34 PM, Pawel P. said: 5. THEME (aus "Zapfenstreich") - (mit Anne-Sophie Mutter) Schindler's List? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Jay said: The CD and blu ray come in the same package. There is no other version (other than the vinyl) From what I can see there is also a CD only version https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843485?lang=en 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: Schindler's List? No. It's 'Nice to be Around' from Cinderella Liberty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyprod 86 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Jay said: The CD and blu ray come in the same package. There is no other version (other than the vinyl) oh, so it's not a limited edition ? we can wait a bit ! thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Martyprod said: Is the Bluray version with the "Full Concert" a limited edition ? Best is to order now, or we can wait a bit (the release date) ? 9 hours ago, Jay said: The CD and blu ray come in the same package. There is no other version (other than the vinyl) 8 hours ago, JohnnyD said: Should I wait until the Blu-Ray and CD set becomes available to order on Amazon USA, or should I order it now via the official website? There are three different physical releases of the Vienna concerts, all three of them available for pre-order on Amazon.com: CD (August 14) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SM43M9/ Blu-ray/CD "Deluxe Edition" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SCCYF1/ (August 28) https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/john-williams-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843487?lang=en (August 14) Vinyl https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SD7MP9/ (August 28) https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/john-williams-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843489 (August 14) Jay and Martyprod 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Just get the vinyl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 37 minutes ago, Ricard said: There are three different physical releases of the Vienna concerts, all three of them available for pre-order on Amazon.com: CD (August 14) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SM43M9/ Blu-ray/CD "Deluxe Edition" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SCCYF1/ (August 28) https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/john-williams-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843487?lang=en (August 14) Vinyl https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SD7MP9/ (August 28) https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/john-williams-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843489 (August 14) Thanks for the correction and helpful links! However, while they are listed on Amazon US, they are not available for pre-order (other than the vinyl version), at least not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 Indeed. Another (minor) detail: According to the artwork currently available, the title of the Blu-ray is "John Williams Live in Vienna", while the CD and vinyl are titled "John Williams in Vienna". crlbrg and Jay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Probably supporting that later recorded bits and bobs are used to cover up applause etc., therefore technically not making them strictly live recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Holko said: Probably supporting that later recorded bits and bobs are used to cover up applause etc., therefore technically not making them strictly live recordings. I guess so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 If I order this directly from Germany, is it in English? I just want to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Is what in English? The track list and other info in the booklet/packaging? Or their website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jay said: Is what in English? The track list and other info in the booklet/packaging? The whole set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Sorry, don't follow you. How is that different than what I said? I feel like I'm missing something. If we are talking about the same thing, I don't think anybody on JWFan knows the answer to that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 Hi-res version of the Blu-ray artwork: And here's a CD cover different to the one on JPC.de and Amazon (from an English-speaking site): https://www.udiscovermusic.com/classical-news/john-williams-in-vienna/ Cover from Amazon.com and JPC.de: Jay and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Jay said: Sorry, don't follow you. How is that different than what I said? I feel like I'm missing something. If we are talking about the same thing, I don't think anybody on JWFan knows the answer to that question. I was referring to the Blu-Ray/CD set, and that includes the track listing and the Blu-Ray/CD packaging. If I order it directly from the website, is the set that will be delivered in English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 If you mean the liner notes, Across the Stars has both English and German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Okay. I was referring to not only the liner notes, but everything in the set: the Blu-Ray and the packaging. Is the concert and interview included in the Blu-Ray in English? I'm sure it is, but I wanted to get confirmation of that. Was Across the Stars originally offered for pre-order on that website? I have the DVD/CD set, but I ordered that via Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Of course the video interview will be in English, John Williams doesn't speak Gerrman! mahler3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 360 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: DVD/CD set Where? Where? Just kidding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: Of course the video interview will be in English, John Williams doesn't speak Gerrman! He did during the concert! Briefly. 5 hours ago, Ricard said: And here's a CD cover different to the one on JPC.de and Amazon (from an English-speaking site): https://www.udiscovermusic.com/classical-news/john-williams-in-vienna/ Possibly the booklet cover? It's square, while the press release says that the CD comes in a gold-plated digipak, and accordingly the gold-plated CD cover image is slightly rectangular. If they also end up doing a regular jewel case release with a regular yellow label, I'd buy that as well just for the cover. Martinland, Ricard and mahler3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I've never ordered anything from an international source. I live in Boynton Beach, FL. What would the total cost of the order be if I were to purchase this directly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: I've never ordered anything from an international source. I live in Boynton Beach, FL. What would the total cost of the order be if I were to purchase this directly? Directly from where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Directly from where? https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/john-williams-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843487?lang=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/john-williams-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843487?lang=en JPC has a link to a page with shipping information. You can use that to calculate the cost of your entire order, then simply add any potential import fees and customs taxes on your side. But JPC is just an online media store like many others. The concert is released by Deutsche Grammophon and will be available in all the usual locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Yea I'm just going to order from Amazon US. Can't think of a reason to order it from anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MSM 126 Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 I can’t stop listening to this fantastic recording😄! I do agree with many people that it is probably the best recording there is, regarding control, phrasing, balance of sound and sound quality. Especially the unisono horn part at 2:32 (video) / 2:27 (audio) gives me chills. There’s just one thing that bothers me every time I hear it, small but audible, which is the second flute coming in half a beat early on the G5 of the ostinato counterpoint 2:25 (video) on 2:20 (audio). I checked the score and there really should be a full quarter note rest on the first beat for tutti orchestra except for the melody played by the horns and trumpets (bar 60). It doesn’t really affect the overal performance but once you hear this you cant unhear it (at least I can’t🙈)... Matthias, MaxTheHouseelf and Miguel Andrade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxTheHouseelf 324 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, MSM said: I can’t stop listening to this fantastic recording😄! I do agree with many people that it is probably the best recording there is, regarding control, phrasing, balance of sound and sound quality. Especially the unisono horn part at 2:32 (video) / 2:27 (audio) gives me chills. There’s just one thing that bothers me every time I hear it, small but audible, which is the second flute coming in half a beat early on the G5 of the ostinato counterpoint 2:25 (video) on 2:20 (audio). I checked the score and there really should be a full quarter note rest on the first beat for tutti orchestra except for the melody played by the horns and trumpets (bar 60). It doesn’t really affect the overal performance but once you hear this you cant unhear it (at least I can’t🙈)... Yeah, I also noticed that, but agree, the performance is absolutely perfect otherwise. MSM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Look at it as a new arrangement. MSM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 hours ago, MSM said: I can’t stop listening to this fantastic recording😄! I do agree with many people that it is probably the best recording there is, regarding control, phrasing, balance of sound and sound quality. Especially the unisono horn part at 2:32 (video) / 2:27 (audio) gives me chills. There’s just one thing that bothers me every time I hear it, small but audible, which is the second flute coming in half a beat early on the G5 of the ostinato counterpoint 2:25 (video) on 2:20 (audio). I checked the score and there really should be a full quarter note rest on the first beat for tutti orchestra except for the melody played by the horns and trumpets (bar 60). It doesn’t really affect the overal performance but once you hear this you cant unhear it (at least I can’t🙈)... The one thing that gets me is the late entry of the snare drum after the B section. It makes the music lack noticeably and it’s interesting to see how much the snare actually adds to that ostinato! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I don't mind these small flaws, but I'm a bit bothered by the slow tempo. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crlbrg 381 Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I don't mind these small flaws, but I'm a bit bothered by the slow tempo. I feel the slower tempo makes it even more menacing St0rMl0rD, Martinland and Miguel Andrade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Menacingly slow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Menacingly slow? The score asks for 112 bpm. Williams takes the Vienna performance on average at about 100. But you’re right it is noticeably slower but I think I like it. I listened back to the Dirk Brosse/LSO Royal Albert Hall performance of the March and it seems far too fast now in comparison, although at the time it was the best I had ever heard the imperial March performed Jurassic Shark and Martinland 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Only (little) thing that bothers me in the performance is that we can't hear the flutes entrance at 53 s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 . tmarps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biodome 714 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Apparently I received a 'refund' from JPC of €1.68. I wonder what's that about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 . Biodome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 2:11 PM, Ricard said: CD (August 14) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SM43M9/ Blu-ray/CD "Deluxe Edition" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SCCYF1/ (August 28) https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/john-williams-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843487?lang=en (August 14) Vinyl https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SD7MP9/ (August 28) https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/john-williams-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-in-vienna/hnum/9843489 (August 14) Pre-order links now available for the Blu-ray/CD combo and the vinyl on Amazon.com. Dr. Rick and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Thanks for the heads-up, pre-ordered the Blu-ray/CD combo for $35.98 at Amazon US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Thanks for the headsup, just ordered it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just ordered via Amazon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Ditto! (ordered from Amazon UK) Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Fabulin said: Unfair! I got only €1.00... €0.84 was my refund! I suspect due to the timing of the order? Also, depending on what was ordered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 €1 for me. Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,418 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 No official tracklist yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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