bollemanneke 3,346 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 On 9/13/2020 at 11:30 AM, Holko said: Well... This is actually a bloody great concert for the overwhelming majority for the time. I didn't even notice what my problem was with the SW Main Title. Yeah, the CD takes a lot away from the concert experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Yeah, the CD takes a lot away from the concert experience. Except for the flubs and timing issues. bollemanneke and Joni Wiljami 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 . Muad'Dib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 About time that JW corrected the scores of Mahler. Biodome and Fabulin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt S. 493 Posted September 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2020 They all told him the same thing: “Spielberg wanted me to score Schindler’s List, but I was dead.” tmarps, crumbs, mahler3 and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 6 hours ago, moi said: Vol. 1 had some very weak pieces(which I all love somewhere else) like Sabrina, Devils dance, Cinderella and Donnybrook Fair. Weak in performance or arrangement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 What is weak with these pieces? Perhaps you just dońt like the arrangement for AS Mutter? Especially Devils dance is excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 8/18/2020 at 1:35 PM, tmarps said: John Williams isn’t slowing down the tempo for his health.. he still conducts fast tempi on OSTs etc. Just my thoughts are that the Vienna Philharmonic are so unfamiliar with the pieces that slow and together (yes, together) was a better option than fast and the pieces completely fall apart and then with no way to get the orchestra back together. The Vienna Philharmonic’s lack of familiarity with the pieces was the main factor that constituted to the slower tempo choices, not Williams being “old”. In my opinion. It certainly sounds like that's the case in several instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 13 hours ago, Gurkensalat said: What is weak with these pieces? Perhaps you just dońt like the arrangement for AS Mutter? Especially Devils dance is excellent! Well Cinderella Liberty and Donnybrook Fair were poor choices for this concert comparing to the timeless stuff like CE3K or WarHorse. And its always stupid to put Raiders march and Marions theme in the same concert because of the repeat of the marions theme. Same with the Leia's theme and the main title in the suite where it comes again. ASM's playing in those pieces is not the problem, the music itself is just too.... light. The problem with the player comes with the more deep pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,654 Posted September 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, moi said: Well Cinderella Liberty and Donnybrook Fair were poor choices for this concert comparing to the timeless stuff like CE3K or WarHorse. And its always stupid to put Raiders march and Marions theme in the same concert because of the repeat of the marions theme. Same with the Leia's theme and the main title in the suite where it comes again. ASM's playing in those pieces is not the problem, the music itself is just too.... light. The problem with the player comes with the more deep pieces. Cinderella Liberty is the essence of the non-blockbuster JW sound. It was a wonderful addition. Gurkensalat, blondheim, MaxTheHouseelf and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,104 Posted September 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2020 I agree Marion's Theme was redundant when it is already reprised in the Raiders March. Han Solo and the Princess(Revised) from Empire would have been a more appropriate choice. Remco, Joni Wiljami, Arpy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biodome 714 Posted September 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2020 I would have liked to hear The Rise of Skywalker instead of Marion's Theme, because I agree that the latter was redundant, but otherwise I had no issues with the programme, or the arrangements for ASM. Gurkensalat, crlbrg and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 They should have gotten John Williams the guitarist instead. crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: They should have gotten John Williams the guitarist instead. The Days Between from "Stepmom" Composer: John Williams Conductor: John Williams Soloist: John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 *mind blown* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Marion's Theme to me was the moment of the greatest beauty in this concert. This was the theme I was most looking forwards to hearing performed by the VPO strings. I can easily see why Williams decided to add it despite already having a bit of Marion's Theme in Raiders March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Yeah, it's a quite different arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Albus Percival Wulfric said: Marion's Theme to me was the moment of the greatest beauty in this concert. This was the theme I was most looking forwards to hearing performed by the VPO strings. I can easily see why Williams decided to add it despite already having a bit of Marion's Theme in Raiders March. I was thinking that the Love Theme from Superman would have been absolutely GLORIOUS with the VPO's strings and horns (and not redundant like Marion's Theme, since they didn't play the March from Superman). Here's to John Williams in Vienna, Vol.2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 . Matt S. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Five notes at the beginning- not a rip. Dummy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 The beginning of the A.I. theme is similar. First few notes are Shostakovich and then he goes his own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Composers should invent their own notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,355 Posted September 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2020 The ultimate solution would have been to keep Marion's Theme, but then instead of playing the classic Raider's March, play Return to the Village / End Credits from Temple of Doom to still get all the Raiders March parts, but with Willie and Shortround material in there instead of Marion's theme again fommes, A. A. Ron, Joni Wiljami and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 591 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Instead of "Donnybrook Fair" I would have preferred the Far and Away arrangement from the Perlam album. Marion's Theme fit quite well. A deserved rest for the brass section. I was happy that it wasn't the ASM version though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Steve said: I was happy that it wasn't the ASM version though. See, and I wished it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BB-8 3,474 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 10:25 PM, Albus Percival Wulfric said: OMG just imagine: and imagine the complaints about VPO "falling apart" while playing the oriental Short Round's Theme in counterpoint Or how about an Indy 5 teaser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceadge 4 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Hi, I just received my order from Amazon of this amazing concert on Blu-ray/CD. I would love to be able to listen to the whole concert on my phone. Is it possible to rip one of the audio tracks? I have a Blu-ray drive in my PC and can see the files in Windows Explorer. I am sure there is copy protection on the files but there is probably a way around this. I checked the forum rules and I did not see mention of something like this being against the rules but if it is then please let me know and/or mods, please delete this! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archive Collection 214 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, Oceadge said: Hi, I just received my order from Amazon of this amazing concert on Blu-ray/CD. I would love to be able to listen to the whole concert on my phone. Is it possible to rip one of the audio tracks? I have a Blu-ray drive in my PC and can see the files in Windows Explorer. I am sure there is copy protection on the files but there is probably a way around this. I checked the forum rules and I did not see mention of something like this being against the rules but if it is then please let me know and/or mods, please delete this! Thanks. Here's how I've done it: get the Blu-ray file of the concert, and use MakeMKV to convert it to an MKV file - but only export the 24/96 stereo audio track (this is the only one you will need). Open this MKV in VLC and use the convert/stream function to convert the MKV file (containing the video and 24/96 stereo audio track) into a WAV audio file (my one was about 3GB in total). From there, split and separate the tracks as you please, and convert it to your preferred format (Apple Lossless for me). Oceadge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceadge 4 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Archive Collection said: Here's how I've done it: get the Blu-ray file of the concert, and use MakeMKV to convert it to an MKV file - but only export the 24/96 stereo audio track (this is the only one you will need). Open this MKV in VLC and use the convert/stream function to convert the MKV file (containing the video and 24/96 stereo audio track) into a WAV audio file (my one was about 3GB in total). From there, split and separate the tracks as you please, and convert it to your preferred format (Apple Lossless for me). Wow, thank you so much :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 ...or just listen to the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceadge 4 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: ...or just listen to the CD. But the CD is missing so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 btw many asked for more film music to be performed by the VPO but it won't happen. HZ will not enter to the podium with his fucking guitar Inception like or any other mediocre composer. They wanted JW and that is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, theBT said: btw many asked for more film music to be performed by the VPO but it won't happen. HZ will not enter to the podium with his fucking guitar Inception like or any other mediocre composer. "More film music" and "Hans Zimmer" are not the same thing by a far shot. 16 minutes ago, theBT said: They wanted JW and that is it. They've played Maurice Jarre last week. Fabulin and crlbrg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: "More film music" and "Hans Zimmer" are not the same thing by a far shot. They've played Maurice Jarre last week. Tell me more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 17 hours ago, theBT said: Tell me more A suite from Doctor Zhivago conducted by Valery Gergiev at the annual open air "Sommernachtskonzert". I haven't heard it myself. crlbrg and Biodome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: A suite from Doctor Zhivago conducted by Valery Gergiev at the annual open air "Sommernachtskonzert". I haven't heard it myself. I saw it on TV. Aren't these open air concerts usually little bit lighter than their normal stuff? Well, Zhivago was full of waltzes😀 crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, theBT said: I saw it on TV. Aren't these open air concerts usually little bit lighter than their normal stuff? Well, Zhivago was full of waltzes😀 Light in a similar way as the New Year's Concerts, only without the focus on the Strauß dynasty. But that's how they first performed Williams as well. crlbrg and Joni Wiljami 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Delayed yet again. Amazon now says it will be in stock on Oct. 28; my pre-order will apparently arrive between Oct. 8 and 23. What the heck?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 That's weird, Amazons tells me mine will be "Arriving tomorrow by 9 PM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: Delayed yet again. Amazon now says it will be in stock on Oct. 28; my pre-order will apparently arrive between Oct. 8 and 23. What the heck?!? Why don't you order from another web store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jay said: That's weird, Amazons tells me mine will be "Arriving tomorrow by 9 PM" Maybe they immediately ran out of stock because they didn't get enough and you were one of the lucky ones. Somebody somewhere really underestimated how well this would sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Or covid is affecting production and distribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I just checked Amazon, mine says arriving by Tuesday 8PM local time. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Probably the pandemic making shipping harder, there’s a lot of that going ‘round, especially for international orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Why don't you order from another web store? If there is an online store that ships in the US that will let me receive it quicker, then I would. I always get regular online orders via Amazon, and normally on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: If there is an online store that ships in the US that will let me receive it quicker, then I would. I always get regular online orders via Amazon, and normally on time. I purchased from prestomusic.co.uk after the initial batch sold out. Received it a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Can't believe I ordered this 5 months ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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