John Williams & the Vienna Philharmonic: January 18/19 2020

[Marian Schedenig 7,559]

3 hours ago, Remco said:

No, the orchestra plays exactly the tempo that Williams gives them in the opening bar yet he doesn’t keep up with his own tempo and then is late in giving his cue to the horns.

 

Regardless, it’s no secret that Williams tempo stability has become worse in recent years (when he’s not conducting to picture).

 

Well, the Philharmoniker were happier with him as a conductor than with many of their famous regular conductors.

[Quppa 106]

No love for Australien from JPC, it seems ('Derzeit keine Lieferungen in das ausgewählte Land möglich'). Hoping it will be available at other stores.

[igger6 847]

Special arrangement of the Raiders March? That's bull, right?  At the Tanglewood concert, wasn't she just standing up, miked, playing the first violin part on the standard arrangement?  Did something different happen in Vienna?

[Stempel 136]

No. 

[rough cut 1,653]

Ordered, naturally.

 

Really cool that they're releasing this as both a CD and a BD. : )

 

Looking forward to re-living this, such an amazing weekend. I was there for both performances. I'd seen the maestro perform live once before, in LA in 2016, but you can't really compare the venues.

[Nagnes 6]

9 hours ago, Martinland said:

Yes, I am giddy as well! \o/ But I see no DVD? :-/

How am I supposed to rip/convert this then?

 

*sigh* Sooo close...

(should I order something I cannot even read out let alone play?)

Same for me...

I was so excited to read the news yesterday ! Especially since it was my birthday But what a disappointment :/

Some suggested that I buy a blu-ray reader, but what for ? I would have no other use of it. And that would make the souvenir very expansive :s Moreover, watch a blu-ray with my equipment would be like having a ferrari engine in a 4L...
I think I will buy it anyway and borrow a reader once or find someone who could convert it. Or do you think there could be a DVD release later as well ?

 

[Biodome 714]

Small Blu-ray readers that connect up to your PC or TV go from €50 to €100. It's a great investment, because the video and sound quality upgrade is very noticeable, and DVDs are being phased out anyway. 

[Holko 8,993]

A small external drive is just that, though, a drive, you need processing power and most of all software to actually play stuff. TVs don't even recognise what you plugged in. If I'd want to watch blus in the living room I'd have to carry out my laptop, external drive and likely the power cable, and use an HDMI cable.

[Remco 685]

8 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

Well, the Philharmoniker were happier with him as a conductor than with many of their famous regular conductors.

I can imagine why, but that doesn’t make him a technically perfect conductor.

[Fabulin 3,469]

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[Remco 685]

13 minutes ago, Fabulin said:

Cut him some slack, will you? He conducts at 88 better than Herrmann at 64. And at some point music is more than timings and perfection anyway. It's about the connection between the conductor, the orchestra, and the audience. These connections were splendid, and the performances were a great success. That's all that matters.

Oh come on, I love Williams to death and I only want him to do well. The concerts were fantastic, yes. But I’m just being realistic, he’s just not as good as a conductor as he was before. It’s not strange that at 88 your body can’t quite communicate your inner feelings as well anymore. 
 

 

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People complaining over the BD disc release... because they don’t own a BD-player. Really? Jeez, the format’s only been out 15 years guys, no rush.

 

You complaining it’s in color too? 

[crlbrg 376]

Surprised there hasn’t been an official announcement from Deutsche Grammophon yet

 

7 hours ago, igger6 said:

Special arrangement of the Raiders March? That's bull, right?  At the Tanglewood concert, wasn't she just standing up, miked, playing the first violin part on the standard arrangement?  Did something different happen in Vienna?

Same at Vienna. Seems to be a mistake

[Marian Schedenig 7,559]

8 hours ago, igger6 said:

Special arrangement of the Raiders March? That's bull, right?  At the Tanglewood concert, wasn't she just standing up, miked, playing the first violin part on the standard arrangement?  Did something different happen in Vienna?

 

The blurb was clearly written by someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. I suspect even the mis-translated film titles ("Great White Shark") are not the result of a translation software but of a clueless marketing person.

 

I just hope they didn't specially mike Mutter and single her out in the mix. With the live acoustics, she was just a part of the regular violin section. It would be a shame if they ruined the march on the release by adding a noticeable solo violin.

 

One bit worries me: It doesn't actually say anywhere that even the limited release will contain the full concert. They might still drop cues for whatever reason. At least the Devil's Dance (the only previously unreleased piece in the programme) is confirmed. But whoever has the capability should record the ServusTV broadcast as well. "Just in cases".

5 hours ago, Holko said:

A small external drive is just that, though, a drive, you need processing power and most of all software to actually play stuff. TVs don't even recognise what you plugged in. If I'd want to watch blus in the living room I'd have to carry out my laptop, external drive and likely the power cable, and use an HDMI cable.

 

I mainly use my drive for ripping the audio off music Blu-rays. There's still no ready to use Blu player software for Linux, as far as I know (as good as the format is technically, it still sucks as far as policies and encryption are concerned), but there are tools that can rip stuff, and relatively extract and convert the audio to FLAC, which I can then store in my regular collection along with my CD rips.

[MaxTheHouseelf 319]

Tracklist of the CD (from Amazon Germany)

 

https://www.amazon.de/John-Williams-Live-Vienna-Williams/dp/B087SM43M9/ref=sr_1_6?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=john+williams+in+vienna&qid=1588407460&sr=8-6

 

This means the 6 additional tracks on the Bluray will be Mutter's performances:

Hedwigs Theme,

Theme from Sabrina,

Donnybrook Fair,

Theme from Cinderella Liberty,

The Duel,

Remembrances.

 

[tmarps 217]

11 minutes ago, MaxTheHouseelf said:

Tracklist of the CD (from Amazon Germany)

 

https://www.amazon.de/John-Williams-Live-Vienna-Williams/dp/B087SM43M9/ref=sr_1_6?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=john+williams+in+vienna&qid=1588407460&sr=8-6

Ah - so a lot of Mutter missing. I would’ve liked The Duel and Potter and perhaps Cinderella Liberty to be on there too. Grateful for a BD release now 

[bollemanneke 3,172]

Wait, so all the non-Mutter tracks are on the CD?

[Gurkensalat 328]

That makes sense since all those Mutter tracks are available on the other album from last year, although different performances.

[crumbs 13,908]

41 minutes ago, tmarps said:

Ah - so a lot of Mutter missing. I would’ve liked The Duel and Potter and perhaps Cinderella Liberty to be on there too. Grateful for a BD release now 

 

Probably going to be about 127 different releases of the set announced between now and the release date, I wouldn't be too concerned.

[MaxTheHouseelf 319]

6 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

Wait, so all the non-Mutter tracks are on the CD?

Yes, apart from "Devils Dance" which was not released before. And strangely "Raiders March", which makes no sense to credit ASM because she just played the Violin I part.

[Fabulin 3,469]

48 minutes ago, MaxTheHouseelf said:

Yes, apart from "Devils Dance" which was not released before. And strangely "Raiders March", which makes no sense to credit ASM because she just played the Violin I part.

Not for a sound mixer.

Meet DG's new intern, Darth Balance Maul.

[Pieter Boelen 698]

Ah, so most of the tracks are the regular orchestral versions then?

Too bad.

I was quite curious to hear a Mutter Imperial March.

[Biodome 714]

40 minutes ago, MaxTheHouseelf said:

And strangely "Raiders March", which makes no sense to credit ASM because she just played the Violin I part.

They have altered the part. Pray they don't alter it any further.

[bollemanneke 3,172]

1 hour ago, MaxTheHouseelf said:

Yes, apart from "Devils Dance" which was not released before. And strangely "Raiders March", which makes no sense to credit ASM because she just played the Violin I part.

Hmm, I just might buy this then.

[Matthias 267]

Here's the official confirmation for the broadcast date which Marian mentioned already before:

https://presse.servustv.com/news-montag-01-juni-um-10-uhr-und-um-2210-uhr-von-star-wars-bis-harry-potter-john-williams-dirigiert-die-wiener-philharmoniker?id=104990&menueid=12501&l=deutschland

 

The concert will be broadcast on ServusTV, Monday 1st of June at 10:00 and 22:10 (CET). 

[crlbrg 376]

7 minutes ago, Matthias said:

Here's the official confirmation for the broadcast date which Marian mentioned already before:

https://presse.servustv.com/news-montag-01-juni-um-10-uhr-und-um-2210-uhr-von-star-wars-bis-harry-potter-john-williams-dirigiert-die-wiener-philharmoniker?id=104990&menueid=12501&l=deutschland

 

The concert will be broadcast on ServusTV, Monday 1st of June at 10:00 and 22:10 (CET). 

Just to be sure - is this Servus German or Austrian? Or both?

[Matthias 267]

 

53 minutes ago, carlborg said:

Just to be sure - is this Servus German or Austrian? Or both?

It's an Austrian TV channel, but you can also watch it in Germany. It is owned by RedBull and freely available. 

 

Edit: People who can't get ServusTV in their countries could try their luck with a VPN and the ServusTV live stream. Hopefully, the concert won't be blacked out from the stream and the stream doesn't get overwhelmed. 

[Fabulin 3,469]

I wonder how did they choose the versions of the anecdotes. The performances can really vary!

[rough cut 1,653]

As much as I will enjoy every single track on this CD, the most important que is The Devil’s Dance - I am glad it’s on there.

[Marian Schedenig 7,559]

[rough cut 1,653]

From now on, I’ll just put the letter Q whenever I want to specify a certain track 😅

[toothless 960]

Just ordered. Thanks

[Tydirium 1,110]

Interesting how the Amazon picture says "John Williams in Vienna," without the "live" that was in the earlier image in this thread.

[aj_vader 501]

 

Apparently the full video of The Imperial March will be online tomorrow!

[bollemanneke 3,172]

Classic FM should instead make their 2018 RAH concert recording available in a proper format.

[Stempel 136]

https://www.classicfm.com/composers/williams/john-conducts-vienna-philharmonic-imperial-march/?fbclid=IwAR11MOLikU1g0L7nReU-FxvIH0y-G3zNCh2wRZiKHFB8mCWlHP8ndVMqW2E

[Pieter Boelen 698]

On 5/2/2020 at 11:58 AM, Pieter Boelen said:

Ah, so most of the tracks are the regular orchestral versions then?

Too bad.

I was quite curious to hear a Mutter Imperial March.

That's already three people I managed to confuse.

But what is there to be confused by?

 

Or is the idea of a violin Imperial March just TOO crazy?

 

To be fair... It IS quite nutty!

And I have no clue what it'd sound like.

Or if it could even be made to work at all.

 

But that's why I'm curious about it.

If anyone can work that magic, John Williams can!

[MaxTheHouseelf 319]

14 hours ago, Tydirium said:

Interesting how the Amazon picture says "John Williams in Vienna," without the "live" that was in the earlier image in this thread.

The "John Williams live in Vienna" seems to be only on the Bluray/Deluxe Ed. and "John Williams in Vienna" for the CD and Vinyl.

 

5 hours ago, aj_vader said:

 

Apparently the full video of The Imperial March will be online tomorrow!

Then we might get the official announcement by DG tomorrow... not that it'd be necessary anymore Interestingly, they added the short clip of the audience in the beginning... that wasnt there in the original Facebook video. And in the ClassicFM article it says the full album is coming on 7 August and not 14 August

[tmarps 217]

Just listened back to the broadcast that Classic FM "premiered" the Imperial March on. The Imperial March sounds great - even in low res radio streaming. However, the opening applause and cheers have disappeared from the recording. The snare drum late entry is still there from the Sunday performance, so I'm wondering why the eruption of applause at the opening of the piece is missing... maybe this was one of the re-recordings in the "patch-up" sessions after the concert. Sounds good though, despite being maybe just slightly underspeed. Ending is phenomenal, love the rall in the last bar. No applause at the end either.... interesting 

[MaxTheHouseelf 319]

12 minutes ago, tmarps said:

Just listened back to the broadcast that Classic FM "premiered" the Imperial March on. The Imperial March sounds great - even in low res radio streaming. However, the opening applause and cheers have disappeared from the recording. The snare drum late entry is still there from the Sunday performance, so I'm wondering why the eruption of applause at the opening of the piece is missing... maybe this was one of the re-recordings in the "patch-up" sessions after the concert. Sounds good though, despite being maybe just slightly underspeed. Ending is phenomenal, love the rall in the last bar. No applause at the end either.... interesting 

How can you listen to it?

[tmarps 217]

7 minutes ago, MaxTheHouseelf said:

How can you listen to it?

Global’s (company that own Classic FM as well as basically every other commercial radio station) catch up player - Bill Turnbull’s show from today (3 May)

[MaxTheHouseelf 319]

10 minutes ago, tmarps said:

Global’s (company that own Classic FM as well as basically every other commercial radio station) catch up player - Bill Turnbull’s show from today (3 May)

Thanks!

[Martinland 320]

On 5/1/2020 at 1:23 PM, rough cut said:

People complaining over the BD

Luckily nobody is complaining about

Blu-rays, we are complaining about the

lack of the announced (!) DVD - slight difference.

 

On 5/1/2020 at 4:30 PM, Marian Schedenig said:

I mainly use my drive for ripping the audio off music Blu-rays

I might come back to that - if I may - and if at all necessary.

I will have a TV recording, a CD, and a Blu-ray to create

my own (Double-)DVD release of the full concert...

[Fabulin 3,469]

They didn't manage to delete all the rebel sounds from the beginning...

I still sense two or three signs of life.

But anyway...

 

[Timo Martikainen 127]

Audio-only version published by the recording label: 

 

[Biodome 714]

 

Is the video geoblocked, or was it just taken down?

[Timo Martikainen 127]

5 minutes ago, Biodome said:

Is the video geoblocked, or was it just taken down?

Works for me (I live in Finland) without any problem. Might not work for you if it isn't already 4th day in your timezone.

[Biodome 714]

2 minutes ago, Timo Martikainen said:

Works for me (I live in Finland) without any problem. Might not work for you if it isn't already 4th day in your timezone.

Ahh, guess I'll try and wait that half hour then.

[Fabulin 3,469]

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[Marian Schedenig 7,559]

Yep, went live at midnight.