King Mark 2673 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 the audio in the video is not optimal quality. It's better to take a short listen and wait for the c.d. eventually Why does he skip some sections of Luke and Leia? Link to post Share on other sites
Minority report 1 13 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Watched whole concert today from the Servus tv archive link with my VPN. This time no problem. Often broadcasters are doing all they can technically to stop using a country's IP addresses from outside the country. Fortunately these tech companies just find another way around . bollemanneke 1 Link to post Share on other sites
crocodile 5012 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 hours ago, King Mark said: Why does he skip some sections of Luke and Leia? He's been performing this abridged version for quite some time. When he did that at Tanglewood last year I was bit confused. Karol bollemanneke 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rough cut 901 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Yeah, that three me off as well, he kinda skips the best part. eitam 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Gurkensalat 217 Posted June 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2020 8 hours ago, King Mark said: the audio in the video is not optimal quality. It's better to take a short listen and wait for the c.d. eventually I disagree, the audio was excellent and conveyed a realistic aural picture of the event. The sound was smooth, warm and full, like it was in the room. But one has to turn up the volume to get the effect. In fact I was worried that Deutsche Grammophone would produce a thin, lifeless sound like on the Dudamel CD, but fortunately they got it right. I am very much looking forward to the BLu-ray with probably even better sound in uncompressed high resolution multichannel. crumbs, MaxTheHouseelf, Fabulin and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8686 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I'm going to hold off until the Bluray and blast it in my home theater. Will be the closest I ever get to attending the concert itself. Link to post Share on other sites
Incanus 5262 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I think I'll wait until the Blu-ray to see the entire concert but I did take a look at the broadcast and thought I saw @Marian Schedenig and @scissorhands in the crowd. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6544 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 It was probably their body doubles. Canyoubay Liever 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Incanus 5262 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Yes all the big celebrities have one or two of those. Now I wonder if that guy on the podium was the real John Williams. I can't wait for the Blu-ray where I can try to spot my favourite JW fans frame-by-frame. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post thx99 852 Posted June 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Incanus said: I can't wait for the Blu-ray where I can try to spot my favourite JW fans frame-by-frame. Here are @Miguel Andrade and @Romão, in all their 720p glory... Jay, Muad'Dib, carlborg and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Romão 1485 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Ah, that's great, Doug, thank you for that thx99 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Leitmotif 8 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, thx99 said: Here are @Miguel Andrade and @Romão, in all their 720p glory... Is it Saturday? Link to post Share on other sites
Romão 1485 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Yes Leitmotif 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 3236 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Here's me and two friends of mine: If there are any more Saturday shots from that camera tilted a bit more upwards to show the balcony, they'll show an Austrian ex-president and an Austrian ex-chancellor. Most other shots are from Sunday though. You can frequently see @MSM happily staring at Williams' butt. Jurassic Shark and thx99 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1805 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 16 hours ago, crocodile said: He's been performing this abridged version for quite some time. When he did that at Tanglewood last year I was bit confused. Karol I'm interested, is the abridged version the published one? Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19030 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 The version published in 1983 matched the OST. I don't know if they later replaced it with the shorter version he began performing in the 2000s. bollemanneke 1 Link to post Share on other sites
crocodile 5012 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 5 hours ago, thx99 said: Here are @Miguel Andrade and @Romão, in all their 720p glory... I'm in this picture too. Me and John Williams in the same place. Fucking insane! Still can't believe. Karol carlborg and thx99 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 3236 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, crocodile said: I'm in this picture too. Me and John Williams in the same place. Fucking insane! Still can't believe. There's never been anything on TV that showed so many people I knew personally. It'll be fun to spot more faces once the Blu is out. Link to post Share on other sites
TownerFan 3174 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jay said: The version published in 1983 matched the OST. I don't know if they later replaced it with the shorter version he began performing in the 2000s. The version available on Hal Leonard is the full original version, luckily for us. I believe this shorter version originated for the Star Wars In Concert tour back in 2009, where the piece was accompanying a montage of clips from the original six films. For some reason, JW stuck with it since then. For the Mutter violin arrangement however, he went back to the full version. bollemanneke 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S. 350 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 hours ago, TownerFan said: The version available on Hal Leonard is the full original version, luckily for us. I believe this shorter version originated for the Star Wars In Concert tour back in 2009, where the piece was accompanying a montage of clips from the original six films. For some reason, JW stuck with it since then. For the Mutter violin arrangement however, he went back to the full version. To be fair, it is a bit on the lengthier side...usually around 5 minutes or so (the Utah Symphony/Varujan Kojian recording is just under six minutes). Perhaps he uses the shorter version for live events, where concert length is a real concern, as there are strict rules as to when musicians are entitled to be paid overtime if a concert runs long? bollemanneke 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thx99 852 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Most other shots are from Sunday though. You can frequently see @MSM happily staring at Williams' butt. @MSM indeed had quite the seat!!! Amazing! Link to post Share on other sites
Minority report 1 13 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 14 hours ago, crocodile said: I'm in this picture too. Me and John Williams in the same place. Fucking insane! Still can't believe. Karol so many, so vain Link to post Share on other sites
TownerFan 3174 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Matt S. said: To be fair, it is a bit on the lengthier side...usually around 5 minutes or so (the Utah Symphony/Varujan Kojian recording is just under six minutes). Perhaps he uses the shorter version for live events, where concert length is a real concern, as there are strict rules as to when musicians are entitled to be paid overtime if a concert runs long? I think sometime he just forgets what version he's playing Jokes apart, the most logical explanation is that the shorter version is what is kept in the JAKMS library (they do music prep for all JW concerts) and that's what is sent out to orchestras when JW is conducting. I'm fairly sure it was originally made for the Star Wars In Concert series back in the late '00s. The bars that were cut (a couple bars in the opening prelude with the flutes, a couple more in the mini-development section in the middle and a few more in the coda) probably made sense in the logic of accompanying a film montage and for some reason JW stuck with this version whenever he performs it live. However, the Hal Leonard published version (authorized by JW) is fortunately the full version with those bars intact, so whenever any other orchestra or conductor wants to perform it, it will be this one. The very same happened with "Hymn to the Fallen", which was shortened for a film clip montage he did in Boston several years ago, and that's what was also recorded on the Spielberg/Williams vol.3 album. But again, the published version on Hal Leonard is the longer original one. Link to post Share on other sites
Gurkensalat 217 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I must say I prefer the cuts at the beginning and the end, since the longer version draws both out a bit much. But the cut in the middle is a bit jarring. Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 3236 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 The shortened L&L really bothers me. The middle cut almost breaks the piece for me. 16 hours ago, thx99 said: @MSM indeed had quite the seat!!! Amazing! He had it. And he saw it. Link to post Share on other sites
eitam 142 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: The shortened L&L really bothers me. The middle cut almost breaks the piece for me. Oh it does break it for me. I find it weird that it doesn't bother JW enough to go back to the original version. Maybe we have imprinted on the first version we heard, and to an impartial ear the abridged version sounds better... Minority report 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Minority report 1 13 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 7 hours ago, eitam said: Oh it does break it for me. I find it weird that it doesn't bother JW enough to go back to the original version. Maybe we have imprinted on the first version we heard, and to an impartial ear the abridged version sounds better... Too much editing. Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Skywalker 721 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Man how cool must be to be in a williams concert video! Contratulations on everyone present Link to post Share on other sites
Miguel Andrade 782 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 23 hours ago, TownerFan said: The very same happened with "Hymn to the Fallen", which was shortened for a film clip montage he did in Boston several years ago, and that's what was also recorded on the Spielberg/Williams vol.3 album. But again, the published version on Hal Leonard is the longer original one. A few years ago "Hymn to the Fallen" was performed by a Portuguese orchestra and the version used was the abridged one. Maybe it had to do with the fact that it was conducted by Esa-Peka Salonen's former assistant conductor in LA, our very own Maestrina Joana Carneiro, and perhaps the score came through JoAnn Kane Music Service instead of a purchase or rental from Hal Leonard. TownerFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6544 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I like the short version of "Hymn to the Fallen". Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1805 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Could anyone tell me what L&L section is 'missing'? I have the Boston Pops version, but it is a bit long. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Steve 171 Posted June 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2020 Cutting out the long brass choral in the shortened "Hymn to the fallen" was one of the biggest mistakes in Johnnys career! bollemanneke, Minority report 1 and thx99 3 Link to post Share on other sites
rough cut 901 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Could anyone tell me what L&L section is 'missing'? I have the Boston Pops version, but it is a bit long. *gasps in horror* bollemanneke and JTWfan77 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1805 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I also didn't buy the Jurassic Park/Lost World set. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6544 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I'm sure you downloaded it illegaly. Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1805 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Yes, life found a way. Jurassic Shark and Canyoubay Liever 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2673 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 who cares it's OOP. But that was one of the most important sets to buy Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1805 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Haven't regretted it one second. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6544 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 You still have the illegal download? Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post bigjimwilson 33 Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 Duetsche Grammophon have announced a limited edition vinyl of the concert. The records themselves are gold, (solid, 24-carat I'm assuming) and there's an exclusive note from John inside. 1000 copies worldwide, only through the DG online shop. (store.deustchegrammophon.com) Gah. ok. Take my money! Might as well! eitam, crumbs, Chewy and 5 others 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites
toothless 754 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Thanks for the heads up! Just bought it bigjimwilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pawel P. 368 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I also bought it. I think it sells out quickly. bigjimwilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post eitam 142 Posted June 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2020 OK, I caved in too. And I don't even own a vinyl player. This Vienna thing is still getting more expansive even 6 months after the concert. Leitmotif, bigjimwilson, MaxTheHouseelf and 2 others 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post bigjimwilson 33 Posted June 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2020 The way I see it..... I can't afford it. And I can't really afford the standard releases right now. But I also couldn't particularly afford the concert tickets. I certainly couldn't afford the standby ticket I also got for the second concert. (gulp.) I couldn't afford the flights too comfortably, and I know for sure that whilst the hotel was fairly priced, I couldn't afford the meal I had in their restaurant the first night But guess what.... I bought it all, and I wouldn't change a thing 2020 might be one of the strangest years i'll ever experience. But it kicked off with one of the very best times of my life. I can't put a monetary value on that. These releases are going to bring back some of that incredible happiness. I can't wait carlborg, Canyoubay Liever, Matthias and 5 others 8 Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1805 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Can we also buy a cassette version with an alternate take of JW's message? And a VHS tape with a message from Mutter? Link to post Share on other sites
Martinland 110 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 5 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Can we also buy a cassette version with an alternate take of JW's message? And a VHS tape with a message from Mutter? Well, I just want my DVD (CD/DVD have been my media half my life, they surround me) of this magical event, as originally promised by the Vienna Philharmonic. I don't care for high resolution close-ups, just the wonderful audio and good enough video... (the close-ups in PAL would be retina resolution from where we sat and experienced the magic anyway) Link to post Share on other sites
Biodome 346 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 6/14/2020 at 2:16 PM, eitam said: OK, I caved in too. And I don't even own a vinyl player. This Vienna thing is still getting more expansive even 6 months after the concert. Same here. I thought that it would just be nice to have that vinyl, since the stock won't last for long. The fact that I couldn't currently play it is of least concern to me eitam and Canyoubay Liever 2 Link to post Share on other sites
eitam 142 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Yeah, at this point it's more about the memories than about the music And maybe also, at least for me, not knowing when the next JW release will be. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6544 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 It's in August. Link to post Share on other sites
E-Wan 42 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Standard CD edition will be released as digipack! carlborg and MaxTheHouseelf 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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