JohnnyD 567 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 If I need to wait a few more days or a week or two, then that is alright. It will be worth the wait and then some. Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 567 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Update: now my pre-order is estimated to arrive between October 4 and October 16. Well, that's more like it. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17652 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 My copy arrived on Saturday! Looks like a nice package, I haven't opening it yet though ATXHusker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Holko 5207 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Somehow it feels more sturdy and weighty than the kinda flimsy Across the Stars digipak release. Link to post Share on other sites
ATXHusker 576 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites
Bayesian 589 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Mine on Wednesday! ATXHusker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 567 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Another update: getting it Wednesday. Yay! ATXHusker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gurkensalat 191 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I don't know if it has been posted before, but this review is spot on in my opinion: http://www.movie-wave.net/john-williams-in-vienna/ It mentions the exhaustingly discussed "flubs", but puts them into the correct perspective: small imperfections of a monumental experience. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 The blame for the faults in these performances really are on Deutsche Grammophon's producers. They had audio from two concerts plus a patch-up session, so discerning listeners were expecting a more polished result. From the review, quoted especially for @Disco Stu: The regular CD sounds so stunning, I can’t begin to imagine how good the Ultra-High Quality MQA disc must sound Gurkensalat 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gurkensalat 191 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: The blame for the faults in these performances really are on Deutsche Grammophon's producers. They had audio from two concerts plus a patch-up session, so discerning listeners were expecting a more polished result. From the review, quoted especially for @Disco Stu: The regular CD sounds so stunning, I can’t begin to imagine how good the Ultra-High Quality MQA disc must sound I agree with you! :-) On both points. The CD sound quality is the one thing I disagree with the review. The sound on the CD is acceptable, but clearly inferior to the Blu-ray. And I don't think MQA would make much difference. Holko 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gurkensalat said: The sound on the CD is acceptable, but clearly inferior to the Blu-ray. Did you listen to the blu-ray in stereo or surround? Link to post Share on other sites
Gurkensalat 191 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Did you listen to the blu-ray in stereo or surround? 5.1 Surround (not Atmos). One of the most impressive and realistic mixes I have ever heard. Replicated the original life experience very closely (with my system). Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gurkensalat said: 5.1 Surround (not Atmos). One of the most impressive and realistic mixes I have ever heard. Replicated the original life experience very closely (with my system). How does the blu compare to the CD when mixed down to stereo? Link to post Share on other sites
Gurkensalat 191 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I compared once the hi-rez stereo track on the BD with the CD. Sounded a bit better, clearer and less congested, but still a far cry from 5.1 with its enveloping realism. I have not listend to the 5.1. mixed down to stereo, since normally this is not the best idea. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I forgot the blu also has stereo tracks. Link to post Share on other sites
Madmartigan JC 31 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: How does the blu compare to the CD when mixed down to stereo? Great, in my opinion. I don't have the setup for 5.1 listening, but I much prefer the downconversion of 5.1 to stereo rather than the stereo mix. Particularly for the Mutter tracks, her sound is more integrated with the rest of the orchestra, sounding much more aching to the real thing. Her sound is so prevalent in the stereo mix you have a hard time discerning subtleties in the orchestration. Jurassic Shark and Gurkensalat 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 3002 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I forgot the blu also has stereo tracks. I've ripped the stereo track for standard listening. The sound characteristics are the same as on the CD stereo mix. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 But they're higher resolution, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 3002 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 96Hz. My rip has 32 bits, but I think the Blu has 24 and ripping added the other 8 bits. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 You got 8 bits for free! Link to post Share on other sites
rough cut 857 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: I've ripped the stereo track for standard listening. The sound characteristics are the same as on the CD stereo mix. Yeah, there's been some discussion about the BD stereo and the CD stereo, but I'd say you're probably right in this. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Do they use the same takes on the blu as on the CD? Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 147 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 48 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Do they use the same takes on the blu as on the CD? Yes. I thought you watched and listened to the release? Nobody complained more than you, so you should at least have listend to the recording before Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I've listened to the album. I don't need the video to tell there's flubs and timing issues. Link to post Share on other sites
ATXHusker 576 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Amazon just dropped off my blu-ray / cd set! Why is the packaging shorter than the Across the Stars DVD/CD package? I need consistency people!!! LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17652 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I feel like it's meant to go on your blu ray shelf being primarily a video-centric release, while Across the Stars was meant to be a "deluxe" CD packaging with the video content being more of a bonus Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: Amazon just dropped off my blu-ray / cd set! Why is the packaging shorter than the Across the Stars DVD/CD package? I need consistency people!!! LOL Just another thing they fu**ed up with this release. Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 3002 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jay said: I feel like it's meant to go on your blu ray shelf being primarily a video-centric release, while Across the Stars was meant to be a "deluxe" CD packaging with the video content being more of a bonus It's meant to go on your exhibition shelf: Link to post Share on other sites
Holko 5207 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: Amazon just dropped off my blu-ray / cd set! Why is the packaging shorter than the Across the Stars DVD/CD package? I need consistency people!!! LOL 11 minutes ago, Jay said: I feel like it's meant to go on your blu ray shelf being primarily a video-centric release, while Across the Stars was meant to be a "deluxe" CD packaging with the video content being more of a bonus Much simpler: AtS comes with a DVD so the digipak is DVD case-sized. Vienna comes with a bluray so the digipak is bluray case-sized. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17652 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Nice Howard Shore signature! Marian Schedenig and Tydirium 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post JohnnyD 567 Posted October 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2020 I finally received the Blu-Ray and CD set. After watching the concert and listening to the CD, here are my impressions. The Maestro conducting one of the greatest orchestras in the world; the Maestro and the Vienna Philharmonic. My response to that combination: it is about damn time. Seeing this concert and listening to the CD made me shed tears of joy and awe. From The Flight to Neverland all the way to The Imperial March, this concert was legendary. Flawless experience; the sound is phenomenal, and the performances breathed new life into the Maestro's already life-filled music! It must have been a blessing to see this concert in person, but having this Blu-Ray and CD set is the next best thing, and I can re-live it for many years to come. Truly phenomenal. Martinland, Runar, rough cut and 6 others 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17652 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 4:54 PM, Holko said: Much simpler: AtS comes with a DVD so the digipak is DVD case-sized. Vienna comes with a bluray so the digipak is bluray case-sized. Oh. Right. Link to post Share on other sites
Incanus 5250 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Wow the Finnish Broadcasting Company YLE is broadcasting the concert recording today in a couple of hours! Sweet! Timo Martikainen 1 Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8170 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Will this ever come back into stock in Australia!? C'mon D-G! Link to post Share on other sites
Arpy 3667 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, crumbs said: Will this ever come back into stock in Australia!? C'mon D-G! https://www.classicsdirect.com.au/artist-spotlights/john-williams-in-vienna/ Pre-ordered mine from here. Showing out of stock for the blu-ray combo though. Link to post Share on other sites
RuBen_Kenobi 16 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 https://soundtrackfest.com/en/news/john-williams-live-in-vienna-free-concert-streaming/ Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8170 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Arpy said: https://www.classicsdirect.com.au/artist-spotlights/john-williams-in-vienna/ Pre-ordered mine from here. Showing out of stock for the blu-ray combo though. Yeah I'm after the Bluray/CD combo! JB haven't had stock for months. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Yeah I'm after the Bluray/CD combo! JB haven't had stock for months. Here it is in stock, with worldwide shipping. https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8785414--john-williams-in-vienna-cd-blu-ray-video-edition https://www.europadisc.co.uk/search/europadisc_results.htm Link to post Share on other sites
E-Wan 40 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Incanus said: Wow the Finnish Broadcasting Company YLE is broadcasting the concert recording today in a couple of hours! Sweet! Czech Television (CT) has broadcasted the concert recording (with Czech commentary) on Monday. It is still available on their website: https://www.ceskatelevize.cz/porady/13576669986-john-williams-ve-vidni/22054215003/ Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2616 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Ordered https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B087SCCYF1 Link to post Share on other sites
rough cut 857 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Good for you! Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post rough cut 857 Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 So yesterday we had a small gathering for 1st of Advent, my custom xmas-playlist lazily playing in the background. The occasional song attracted a casual question about the origin and/or differences to other version - or just simply to share preferences (“Wham’s Last Christmas? I hate that song!” or “Thank God you put Mariah in there, it’s not Christmas without her hitting those high notes!”). Towards the end of our little celebration the conversation drifted toward music in general. Trends that have come and gone, concerts we’ve been to, clubs we danced in until they threw us out... and naturally, somehow, the conversation turned towards John Williams. More specifically, towards the Vienna concerts. Me and my wife, who both attended, commented on the tracks, gave a brief introduction to the individual pieces as well as the historical importance of the event itself, and I think we too our guests a bit by surprise - but in nothing but a good way! We were laughing and pointing at the occasions where we show up in the clips, making the chit chat very personal, and we had our tiny audience mesmerized. It was a great way to end a lovely evening. carlborg, T.RASK and bigjimwilson 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Great story! Did the guests cringe at the flubs and timing issues? Link to post Share on other sites
rough cut 857 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Immensely. In fact, I think it’s the only thing they’ll remember from the evening. Not even the lobster, the champagne or the cigars! Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I can't remember any of those from the blu-ray. I guess they were edited out. Link to post Share on other sites
rough cut 857 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It’s because you weren’t there! 😉 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6023 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Sounds a bit too snobbish to me to be frank! Link to post Share on other sites
T.RASK 970 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Great story! Did the guests cringe at the flubs and timing issues? Third warning!!! 7 hours ago, rough cut said: So yesterday we had a small gathering for 1st of Advent, my custom xmas-playlist lazily playing in the background. The occasional song attracted a casual question about the origin and/or differences to other version - or just simply to share preferences (“Wham’s Last Christmas? I hate that song!” or “Thank God you put Mariah in there, it’s not Christmas without her hitting those high notes!”). Towards the end of our little celebration the conversation drifted toward music in general. Trends that have come and gone, concerts we’ve been to, clubs we danced in until they threw us out... and naturally, somehow, the conversation turned towards John Williams. More specifically, towards the Vienna concerts. Me and my wife, who both attended, commented on the tracks, gave a brief introduction to the individual pieces as well as the historical importance of the event itself, and I think we too our guests a bit by surprise - but in nothing but a good way! We were laughing and pointing at the occasions where we show up in the clips, making the chit chat very personal, and we had our tiny audience mesmerized. It was a great way to end a lovely evening. Wonderful story!! rough cut and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rough cut 857 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Thank you! T.RASK 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bigjimwilson 27 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I see pre-orders are up again for this.... for a Feb release. Standalone blu-ray without the CD perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
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