Martinland 357 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Oh my god - "Remembering Childhood" just came on on streamingsoundtracks while I was still jotting down fading memories of the concert and I am standing here in the living room kitchen right now, crying. oO Ah, flying theme came on - getting myself together. ...I am definitely looking forward to the concert video on physical media - will be looking for our "little" daughter on there. Ahhh apples and GlastoEls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD 155 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Martinland said: Oh my god - "Remembering Childhood" just came on on streamingsoundtracks while I was still jotting down fading memories of the concert and I am standing here in the living room kitchen right now, crying. oO Ah, flying theme came on - getting myself together. ...I am definitely looking forward to the concert video on physical media - will be looking for our "little" daughter on there. Ahhh Where were your seats, Martin? I was 6th row (altogether) on the left side, 6 meters away from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 357 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 5 hours ago, St0rMl0rD said: not even listening to any music still Haha, wow - so you are not going to wash/use your ears for weeks to come? I too was absolutely not able to turn on the car radio on our journey back home (which I usually do for select nice classical and R&B stations from Vienna) and then, like more than 24 hours after the concert, yesterday I slowly began with a little bit of orchestral film music in the late afternoon... ...today I fell back to square one... ...BTW: I really tried to find you in the rows before us - even asked a guy if he is "stormlord", he laughed and replied that nobody has ever asked him this before, and no, he is from Ireland. St0rMl0rD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handz 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Martinland said: Haha, wow - so you are not going to wash/use your ears for weeks to come? I too was absolutely not able to turn on the car radio on our journey back home (which I usually do for select nice classical and R&B stations from Vienna) and then, like more than 24 hours after the concert, yesterday I slowly began with a little bit of orchestral film music in the late afternoon... ...today I fell back to square one... ...BTW: I really tried to find you in the rows before us - even asked a guy if he is "stormlord", he laughed and replied that nobody has ever asked him this before, and no, he is from Ireland. I am now just listening my recordings from the concerts and then original versions of them 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 357 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, St0rMl0rD said: Where were your seats, Martin? I was 6th row (altogether) on the left side, 6 meters away from him What the?!? The two of us were in the 6th row as well, one/two seats to the right of dead centre (exactly what I usually prefer in a movie theatre as well! Our daughter, as I wrote before, was right in front of and on the same level as the orchestra at the stage entrance and nearly shook his hand). I was looking to you in front of me, not to my left side, *smirk*. So we experienced everything together in the same row, that's comforting and nice to know; as somebody wrote above - all audience members were friends anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, handz said: I am now just listening my recordings from the concerts and then original versions of them 😅 Listened to the concert again twice! Imagine how great it would be if they included some snippets from the rehearsal in the Blu-ray release...unlikely, I know, but one could hope aescalle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
initiating selfdestruction 1 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, handz said: I am now just listening my recordings from the concerts and then original versions of them 😅 Would you mind sending me those? I didn't get the chance to record due to a security guy right next to me 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handz 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, initiating selfdestruction said: Would you mind sending me those? I didn't get the chance to record due to a security guy right next to me 😅 Yeah they were quite annoying - at some places it was almost impossible to record, on some it was easy. I have some vids where you can actually just see JWs butt so it is not very flattering angle (it was impossible to film there otherwise) but I have 3 or 4 full pieces recorded... and of corse apple making me crazy - transffering from phone keeps on crashing... Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apples 61 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Listening to Flight to Neverland non stop 😍 Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,287 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 7 hours ago, wickerman said: He´s flown back to the States literally 2 hours after the concert. Don't believe everything you read on the internet folks. What this guy says here is not true at all. John Williams is still in Vienna right now. Will, Fabulin, eitam and 10 others 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GlastoEls 556 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Jay said: Don't believe everything you read on the internet folks. What this guy says here is not true at all. John Williams is still in Vienna right now. He’s not on a conference call with the Royal Albert Hall and LSO is he by any chance Jay?! 😂 toothless, crumbs and Jonny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Nice! It was a wonderful weekend. Vienna is a beautiful city to stroll around in. And the concert was great. Williams looked great for an 87 year old. Matthias 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apples 61 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, GlastoEls said: He’s not on a conference call with the Royal Albert Hall and LSO is he by any chance Jay?! 😂 Actually thinking that may still happen! (based on absolutely nothing but my hopes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Yeah, it makes sense that he'd first want to test out the program with a more shoddy orchestra! GlastoEls and Biodome 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 556 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, apples said: Actually thinking that may still happen! (based on absolutely nothing but my hopes) Me too - obviously his health is now always his first concern - but we’re permitted to hope! apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biodome 714 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Tydirium said: The irony being that this sort of concert hall gatekeeping is being done nowadays by the very people who like to claim how "new" and inventive their music is, when in reality it's the same tired mix of atonal crowd-killers we've been hearing for decades now. I agree with what you're saying, but I would be careful about generally bashing postmodernist/atonal music in retaliation. It can be quite a rewarding experience once you get used to the genre. Even John Williams has written many pieces in that style. His bassoon concerto The Five Sacred Trees is one of my favourite works of his! ChrisAfonso, Gurkensalat, Taikomochi and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Psycho Pianist 216 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 I was on the right hand side, front row on the balcony. I've seen Williams twice before (both Hollywood Bowl 2014/16 I think), but neither of those even remotely compared to yesterday. The intimacy of the venue, the sense of complete harmony of the audience to JW and of course the complete and utter respect of the musicians for someone whom even a decade or so ago they may have regarded with some disdain. The concert met and exceeded my expectations really beyond what I had hoped for - even the presence of ASM and the numerous revised arrangements seemed somehow befitting of the venue and atmosphere. I felt as if the hall, as grand as it is, did suffer from some excess reverb (somebody mentioned earlier that this is more pronounced in the higher balcony seats as opposed to the stalls), however it's such a minor complaint and didn't in any way spoil the occasion nor mar the tremendous musicianship on display. One can only hope that this is a wake-up call for Williams to realise how appreciated he is in Europe - very strange not to see the 2018 LSO concert rescheduled but perhaps this makes that more likely? Matthias, handz, Joni Wiljami and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, Biodome said: I agree with what you're saying, but I would be careful about generally bashing postmodernist/atonal music in retaliation. It can be quite a rewarding experience once you get used to the genre. Even John Williams has written many pieces in that style. His bassoon concerto The Five Sacred Trees is one of my favourite works of his! No, I like most of John Williams' concert pieces. I'm talking about stuff like this: I was at these concerts. The whole piece was like this. Audience members were literally walking out complaining, and I've witnessed the same reaction on numerous other occasions—people wondering at intermission if there will be any "real music" on the second half, because they were so disgusted by stuff like the above. So, I will absolutely bash stuff like this^; there is a difference between modernist and postmodernist. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Same thing happened with Stravinsky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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handz 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, The Psycho Pianist said: I was on the right hand side, front row on the balcony. I've seen Williams twice before (both Hollywood Bowl 2014/16 I think), but neither of those even remotely compared to yesterday. The intimacy of the venue, the sense of complete harmony of the audience to JW and of course the complete and utter respect of the musicians for someone whom even a decade or so ago they may have regarded with some disdain. The concert met and exceeded my expectations really beyond what I had hoped for - even the presence of ASM and the numerous revised arrangements seemed somehow befitting of the venue and atmosphere. I felt as if the hall, as grand as it is, did suffer from some excess reverb (somebody mentioned earlier that this is more pronounced in the higher balcony seats as opposed to the stalls), however it's such a minor complaint and didn't in any way spoil the occasion nor mar the tremendous musicianship on display. One can only hope that this is a wake-up call for Williams to realise how appreciated he is in Europe - very strange not to see the 2018 LSO concert rescheduled but perhaps this makes that more likely? I really do not understand the thing with LSO at all... Lets hope, but the time is running up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I learned JWs going rate is 25k per concert, which is what I felt I should have gotten for a night of hard drinking and walking home thrice in a circle for one hour. MikeH and tmarps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handz 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, publicist said: I learned JWs going rate is 25k per concert, which is what I felt I should have gotten for a night of hard drinking and walking home thrice in a circle for one hour. What? 25k? This is nothing. I will use my savings for this if I will be the one spending the time with him before and after the concert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 That sounds as if u are going to fuck him! 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tydirium 1,166 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Same thing happened with Stravinsky. Lol, that's not really a fair comparison. "The Rite of Spring" was a revolutionary work; its premiere was a game-changer. There's also objectively a lot more going on in that piece. Pieces like the above link have been around for decades; they are nothing new and orchestras are losing audiences because of them. People show up for the first time, hear this, and either leave before they get to the "meat-and-potatoes" of the program, or they stick around but decide against coming back because they don't want to have to listen to stuff like the above. Why not program stuff that ordinary people will want to hear, if you want them to stick around and keep coming? These days in New York (and most places I'd imagine), the vast majority of Philharmonic concerts open with/feature a "new music" work that sounds like merely some variation of the above. (Though the above is one of the worst I've heard.) Why? The phrase "new music" shouldn't be practically synonymous with atonality, and yet we're in a state where it is. People shouldn't hear "new music" and have pieces like the above come to mind; it should be a neutral term that just refers to works that are newly written—including tonal, Romantic-style works, or even Classical-style if someone saw fit to compose in that way. My hope is that things like the Vienna concerts will start to change what is accepted in the concert hall; there is zero reason that tonal new music (like film music) should not have a place in the concert hall. Your average public audience member would enjoy hearing John Williams a heck of a lot more than stuff like in my above link. Back to the case of Stravinsky, though. Have you heard his earlier works, pre-"Rite"? He could absolutely compose great tonal melodies and was always a master orchestrator. What masterful melodic, tonal pieces have composers like Ashley Fure^ or many others of her generation, ever been known for? My belief is you should to be able to actually write "good-sounding" music, to be able to deconstruct it and go the atonal route. For instance, composers like Berg, Webern and Schoenberg were absolute geniuses, because they could compose more tonal music at a masterful level; they simply chose not to. It is therefore much easier for even non-atonal-lovers to begrudgingly accept their later works, as they were simply experimenting, treading new ground. I have been through the American conservatory system, twice; it is infested with composers and composition professors who seem to think that, even if you couldn't write an actual good melody to save your life, you can somehow become a good composer and be welcomed with open arms by the critic community. I remember playing in a student composer reading/recording session where a student composer couldn't even tell me if they meant for one note to be a C or a C#, when I asked them for clarification. And I also know from student composer friends back during my time in conservatory (one of whom is a big JW fan and writes very interesting semi-tonal music that is both original, and yet accessible), that student composers who write in a more tonal style tend to be shunned by peers and professors these days, who view atonality as the only way to go... It's a sad state. Anyways, the bottom line is that I have nothing against composers like the masters I listed above, as well as many in the 20th century. But this crop of newer, younger composers of which there is no evidence that they can write anything that actually sounds good or that a general audience would ever want to hear, is a trend that is turning away many potential classical music fans. I have no problem with Williams' more atonal-sounding works, because he is a proven master along the lines of the past greats, who obviously knows what he is doing. That said, it is my belief that just as opera and ballet music were once considered unfit for the concert hall, by critics—despite being "popular" art forms for the masses—film music is currently in the same boat, but post-Vienna that may begin to change. Score, MikeH and David Story 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handz 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, publicist said: That sounds as if u are going to fuck him! 😎 Well, I thought that people on tis forum are not going to make this kind of jokes here, next time I will be more careful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,639 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Psycho Pianist said: One can only hope that this is a wake-up call for Williams to realise how appreciated he is in Europe - very strange not to see the 2018 LSO concert rescheduled but perhaps this makes that more likely? I don't think Williams needs a "wake-up call." He knows he would sell out any venue worldwide. He is almost 88. It is not easy for him to travel abroad. crumbs, St0rMl0rD, Fabulin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Tydirium said: The Vienna Philharmonic has a bit of a reputation of being thought of as perhaps the most elitist/snobbiest orchestra (no offense to Austrian forum users!), the pinnacle of "proper" classical music-making—so to see John Williams ascend this seemingly insurmountable feat of getting this orchestra to play two concerts of nothing but his film music, and having the musicians standing there clapping wildly for him with smiles on their faces... It's a pretty breathtaking accomplishment. It feels like the world is different today than it was two days ago. Indeed. This is a huge moment from a historical perspective. We devotees have considered John one of the greats for some time, but what we are seeing now is the beginning of the wider classical community recognizing this. This is the start of John taking his place in the inner sanctum of the Parthenon. 8 hours ago, Tydirium said: It is always so ironic to me that the people crying from the rooftops that "Classical music is dying, what ever are we going to do?!" are the same ones who want to incessantly program postmodernist trash as their only idea of "new music"—and yet it's been shown time and time again that film music (at least great film music, like JW's), sells, and is a great way to introduce people to the orchestra and to classical music. Indeed, great film music sells. Works like John's are both technically proficient and have popular appeal, unlike the the intellectual exercises that are more typical nowadays, and thus are more in line with the essence of what classical music began life as. But John does not merely retread Romantic paths. What is amazing about his music is how it combines traditional senses of melody and applicability with dramatic purpose, and modern technical complexity. John's music may have ran counter to the modern and postmodern academic spirits, but his music is true Postmodernism. What is more, as people are drawn into to hear his music, their ears cannot help but be opened to more "difficult" recent music, and the quality of contemporary music that will be played, performed, and written, atonal or otherwise, will be higher now that the audience will be larger. On 1/19/2020 at 9:48 AM, Matthias said: The reviewer was impressed by the JW fan community, saying it was "like God being welcomed by His earthly disciples" 😂 He's a movie star now too, you know! David Story, Tydirium and crlbrg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, handz said: Well, I thought that people on tis forum are not going to make this kind of jokes here, next time I will be more careful... Necrophile! 3 minutes ago, SteveMc said: Indeed. This is a huge moment from a historical perspective. We devotees have considered John one of the greats for some time, but what we are seeing now is the beginning of the wider classical community recognizing this. This is the start of John taking his place in the inner sanctum of the Parthenon. It helps that most musicians now are at an age where they knew Star Wars etc when they were young. Intense clapping was reserved for the famous stuff. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tydirium said: Lol, that's not really a fair comparison. "The Rite of Spring" was a revolutionary work, and actually changed things. It's premiere was a big deal. There's also objectively a lot more going on in that piece. Oh, I agree about that. I'm just saying that negative audience reaction doesn't really have to mean much in either direction. And I find the significance of the audience reaction to Rite to be highly overrated. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Oh, okay. That's a very fair point; you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, handz said: Well, I thought that people on tis forum are not going to make this kind of jokes here, next time I will be more careful... You better be, Hand Zimmer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matthias 267 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, SteveMc said: He's a movie star now too, you know! Oh no, if I had known he was in The Rise of Skywalker, I'd have booed him. 😅 (jk) 21 minutes ago, publicist said: Necrophile! It helps that most musicians now are at an age where they knew Star Wars etc when they were young. Intense clapping was reserved for the famous stuff. I totally see your point; just have to point out that by Musikverein standards, all of the clapping was pretty intense. 😉 (due to the younger, enthusiastic audience) As to the general discussion: I would be careful about ascribing too much significance to one event (even one as historic as this). Nevertheless, I agree that it makes no sense for orchestras to stay away from JW's music - except maybe for less prominent orchestras, where licensing costs might be an issue. It also remains to be seen whether JW's slightly lesser known pieces can attract new audiences to concert halls - especially when he's not conducting himself. But on the bright side, JW's music is not only great, but also attached to some of the most popular movies ever made - so it will definitely stay in the public's consciousness for decades to come. 😃 (same cannot be said about a lot of contemporary classical music) Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, handz said: Yeah they were quite annoying - at some places it was almost impossible to record, on some it was easy. I have some vids where you can actually just see JWs butt so it is not very flattering angle (it was impossible to film there otherwise) but I have 3 or 4 full pieces recorded... and of corse apple making me crazy - transffering from phone keeps on crashing... Recording sound is fine, but filming while holding up your phone can be very distracting for people behind you; well at least for me. There was a kid in front of me who became quite conspicuous during the encores, it got very annoying, especially since a DVD/bluray is going to be released anyway (they sould have announced it at the beginning of the concerts to dissuade people!) Marian Schedenig and Matthias 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handz 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Front seat gives, front seat takes. Not a good angle fora a top secret filming (unless the dirigent is a hot woman in mini skirt) but the force was strong there. St0rMl0rD and Score 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,260 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 11:15 AM, tmarps said: I am conVINCED he came to the Royal Academy of Music to do a concert there in the 90s? that sounds to me the last time he gave a concert in the UK perhaps it was this then.. 😦 The Royal Academy concert was in 1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, Obi said: Thanks for posting this! Wow, love the tempo. Fastest I can recall hearing Williams taking it in recent years! Interesting too to see where he and the orchestra are not quite in sync, like the rallentando at 0:49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sandor 796 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Stefancos said: Goldsmith seems to be virtually forgotten I predicted this 10 year ago... On 9/20/2010 at 12:35 PM, Sandor said: I think history will remember John Williams as - by far - the greatest film music composer of all time. Even if he wasn't, his most famous themes will endure and I think the best known composers are - for a larger public - so well known because of the familiarity with certain pieces. Like Mozart with Eine Kleine Nachtmuzik or Beethoven with Fur Elise and his Fifth Symphony. Of course Beethoven was much more than those works. But it is thát music that makes the first connection with new generations, even before they know his name or learn to speak for that matter. It's like an aural torch that passes from one generation to the next. The six years olds in my school know Fur Elise. They know the opening of the first movement from his Fifth Symphony. But when I ask them who composed those pieces they don't know. Then I tell them it's Beethoven and they all go: "I know that name! So *that's* Beethoven!". It's the familiarity with some of his works (maybe only two or three melodies) that makes them accept that he is one of the greatest composers of all time. Perhaps some of them will discover his Missa Solemnis or his 3rd Symphony, but they heard his Fifth first, because it's imbedded in our culture. There is no way growing up and avoiding hearing 'Happy Birthday' or 'Silent Night' at one point. Everyone gets exposed to it and those melodies stick, at times much longer than the memory of the composers behind them. The children at my school know nothing however about Shostakovich or Clara Schumann. Those composers will be discovered by a much smaller percentage of the next generations and I'm afraid that without that musical torch in a couple of hundred years they will be mostly forgotten, no matter how good and profound their work is. I fear for Goldsmith as well. One of the greatest film score composers of all time will be remembered mostly in name, because Goldsmith doesn't have significant aural torches that will find recognition with the "common man" of the future. Our generation knows Rudy is a very good score, but the next generation will only read about it. They won't hear it; only if they go looking for it. Goldsmith doesn't have melodies and compositions (not yet anyway) that have become part of our cultural heritage, not even his Star Trek Theme which is universally known by our generation, but is not being transmitted to the next I'm afraid. Nothing that I could play in class will make the children go: "Oh, so *that's* Goldsmith!". I think for future generations composers like Jerry Goldsmith, Frans Waxman or Bernard Herrman - no matter how insanely good they were during their careers (don't get me wrong!) - will be discovered by film music enthusiasts and modern music analysists only. They will be read about a lot, more than they will be listened to. And now John Williams. Oh boy... This man has enough torches to ensure that people will remember him for generations to come! The six year olds in my school know the themes of Indiana Jones, Star Wars, The Imperial March, Harry Potter, Jaws, Superman, etc. Those themes have been integrated in our culture and are frequently used in theme parks, TV commercials, etc. People will hear his music, whether they like it or not. Williams is also very lucky that his music is attached to cultural iconic and important films and characters. Darth Vader, Superman, Indiana Jones and Harry Potter will be around much longer than Jack o' the Green or Rick O'Connell. When Williams dies, people will become more and more aware of the amazing career Williams has had. That *one* man could be responsible for so many 'famous film tunes'. That one man could so successfully create the musical equivalent of iconic imagery like the characters of Darth Vader or Superman. He will become the hallmark for all film music and yes - he will be the "Michael Jackson", the "Elvis Presley" of the genre, perhaps the only one. People will grow up and one way or another get in touch with the Star Wars Theme or The Raiders' March. People will continue to whistle the Superman March on the streets and the Jaws Theme will be hummed at every beach. And perhaps it's the interest in the originator of those melodies that will instill in some people a desire to discover Williams' Schindler's List or JFK scores. At least I hope so. Tydirium, Ricard, Matthias and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handz 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, eitam said: Recording sound is fine, but filming while holding up your phone can be very distracting for people behind you; well at least for me. There was a kid in front of me who became quite conspicuous during the encores, it got very annoying, especially since a DVD/bluray is going to be released anyway (they sould have announced it at the beginning of the concerts to dissuade people!) I absolutely agree with you that if someone holding his phone up in the air its super annoying, but on the first concert I was standing and nobody was behind me and they still keep coming to our crowd telling us to stop filming (there was like 20 people making short videos all the time of course on the balcony...) I know that there should be a blue ray... but its like going to vacation and not take any pictures as some professional photographer made them already before and released in a book - I know, but my photos and recording has a much bigger value to me. And - I am photographer, and it was so painful to not have a camera there, being able to make some wonderful photos crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Mortimer 43 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, handz said: Front seat gives, front seat takes. Not a good angle fora a top secret filming (unless the dirigent is a hot woman in mini skirt) but the force was strong there. It's alright. John Williams has a sexy butt too. crlbrg and St0rMl0rD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, handz said: I absolutely agree with you that if someone holding his phone up in the air its super annoying, but on the first concert I was standing and nobody was behind me and they still keep coming to our crowd telling us to stop filming (there was like 20 people making short videos all the time of course on the balcony...) I know that there should be a blue ray... but its like going to vacation and not take any pictures as some professional photographer made them already before and released in a book - I know, but my photos and recording has a much bigger value to me. And - I am photographer, and it was so painful to not have a camera there, being able to make some wonderful photos Sorry, I didn't intend to sound like I was directly aiming my comment at you. As for photographs, I certainly snapped a few during the final applauses ! Matthias 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
initiating selfdestruction 1 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Anyone know how long it usually takes for a blu Ray version to come available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 In worst case, years. rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handz 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: In worst case, years. I also think so. And is the info that it will be released 100% true? I bet that they film all the important concerts even when there is no intention for releasing it afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, handz said: I also think so. And is the info that it will be released 100% true? I bet that they film all the important concerts even when there is no intention for releasing it afterwards I guess all involved parties have to approve it before it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crlbrg 381 Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 Both CD and DVD release confirmed! SteveMc, Biodome, ChrisAfonso and 9 others 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alawill75 39 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, publicist said: I learned JWs going rate is 25k per concert, which is what I felt I should have gotten for a night of hard drinking and walking home thrice in a circle for one hour. Really? Not more? Anne-Sophie Mutter usually is around 70k per concert, depending on venue/festival/etc., of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apples 61 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 One thing about the venue - Was it just me, or was it like an oven in there, jeez! Where's the ventilation?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 357 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Another review of the Maestro's VPO, Musikverein, Viennese, and European debut. <3 They are getting better and better it seems: https://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrichten/kultur/klassik/2046653-John-Williams-Sternstunden-der-Filmmusik.html Hollywood Master Thrills With Excerpts of His Life's Work ... as soon as he approaches the podium, fans cannot stay in their seats ... ovations are worthy and justified ... lush, beautiful sound ... height of bliss towards the end of the concert ... etc. Matthias and rpvee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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