Jay 37,359 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fal said: It's obviously a pizzicato string "boop" I got this funny image of Williams writing his sketches and including a note for the orchestrator, "boops go here" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, Fal said: It's obviously a pizzicato string "boop" Not at all obvious to me, and I've been myself playing in a symphony orchestra for 15+ years. I would definitely never have identified it as such myself. It is obvious, however, that it was the new mix by Matessino that brought it out, since the thing can't be heard on the old 1994 VS edition at all - or at least, I can't hear it even with my old and faithful AKG K 272 HD cans - which BTW revealed to me that something definitely creaks during the french horn solo at 0:41 in The Hands Quit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Anyone with unfulfilled status received their copies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 My copy arrived yesterday and I ordered on the 18th of June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 SAE don't have The Cowboys in stock anymore... because all of you, thanks a lot! They told me they'll receive new copies today or monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, Bespin said: SAE don't have The Cowboys in stock anymore... because all of you, thanks a lot! They think to receive new copies today or monday. Music Box is just as good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 So is there genuinely more fervor and excitement around this release or does Varese just not have their shit together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 It's just Jay buying batches of fifty to see how many they have in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 I have no idea about anything internal at Varese, but I'd guess this is genuinely being a great seller for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 As well it should be! This has been on my "instant buy" list for quite some time. The album doesn't disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Track 26 ... Anyone else reminded of Goldsmith's Planet Of The Apes?! aescalle and The Five Tones 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Five Tones 302 Posted July 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2018 There is so much light, air and realism in this edition. It's intense, and I can't help but play it at a higher than customary volume. The main title has to be among my top five JW thrill rides, it's an orchestral and orchestration showpiece. At only three seconds in with that first tutti, you can tell this is the version to own. Respect to the brilliance of all those who worked to capture it and those who would give it a critical edition. Never expect any less from an MM project. I love the creepy, tritonally-harmonized Long Hair material (Long Hair and Jaws' horn theme share the same initial three notes and there is a Quint's Tale-like treatment of LH at one point - shades of things to come). It's everything, as they say, to be able to hear quiet pieces like this in clean, open sonics, including the almost minimalist reference to The Last Post in Summer's Over that is among the most brilliant cues of its kind (think "Watching the Skies" from another recent MM restoration - although the dramatic functions are different they are both ambient, almost infographically simple panels of sound). At some point this past week, the Main Title from Towering Inferno starting crawling back into my hearing... probably its fast, angular, metronomic rhythms (look Ma, no corrective plugins!) connected in some way in my mind with the ones in this Main Title, especially given the style period proximity. Holko, Jay, gwscores and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 It’s catchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The sound on this is superb. An all around fantastic release. It’s hard to believe this recording is from 1972. The theme has always been a favorite, one of the high schools used to play the overature at football games when I was in school and that was my first introduction to it. Which is surprising considering how much my dad loved John Wayne and westerns. gwscores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 So..is this back in stock? Still unfulfilled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Coincidentally this movie just last week came on the great streaming service Filmstruck, but for some reason it's a version that cuts out the overture from the beginning of the movie! That such a version should exist at all is a shame. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 The overture (and intermission break /entr'act and exit music) were only part of the 70mm road show presentation. The standard 35mm version had no overture or intermission (and therefore used the "alternate" Longhair's Threat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Guess I got lucky. The version I torrented was the roadshow one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Watching it on VHS ten years ago, it had the overture and all that. I believe the DVD I have also includes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 15 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: So..is this back in stock? Still unfulfilled... Apparently they confirmed to me on Monday that they were back in stock and should be shipping the next day. So far no shipping email to me either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Damn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I ordered direct from VS one day after the release date and it was delivered to my door 13 days later, on a stat holiday no less... not sure if they had special stock for orders to Canada or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny 36 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Yippee! Finally got shipping notice today from VS (2 weeks after ordering). Hope that’s the same for you other deprived folks 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Nothing. Rien. Nada. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Mine finally shipped along with SMALL SOLDIERS. Now the hard part to wait it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, Jonny said: Yippee! Finally got shipping notice today from VS (2 weeks after ordering). Hope that’s the same for you other deprived folks 😀 Just got an email confirming shipment. About GD MFing time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 SHIPPED AT LAST!!! aescalle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Same here, it shipped yesterday and it was still unfulfilled on the web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny 36 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Bespin said: SHIPPED AT LAST!!! Congrats! Feels good n’est pas? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Mine shipped yesterday and arrived today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Jonny said: Congrats! Feels good n’est pas? It feels like I'm not alone in the world anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just listened through the CD. As others have said, the clarity of the music is amazing. It was a joy to listen to. The overall soundstage, instrument clarity/ detail, sounds wonderful. The horns sound more like horns, the strings sound more like strings, the snozberries taste like snozzberries... I've listened to the old release about 7 times maybe, but this was like hearing it all for the first time. I love the energy in the fast-paced queues. I love the feel of the bass drum in a couple tracks, love the beauty of the Vivaldi arrangement, and I really enjoy the percussion and low instrumentation in 'The Execution.' My appreciation for this score has grown considerably thanks to this release. And I'm so impressed with what Mike M was able to accomplish with this re-mastering. Yavar Moradi and gwscores 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 The original soundtrack album artwork cannot be beaten though! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 22 hours ago, Lockdown said: The original soundtrack album artwork cannot be beaten though! EDIT: As the 1973 "Promo" LP is in fact considered by many as being a bootleg, I just removed it from my websites. So the 1994 Varèse Sarabande is indeed the "Original" release. 👍 Lockdown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny 36 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, MrJosh said: Just listened through the CD. As others have said, the clarity of the music is amazing. It was a joy to listen to. The overall soundstage, instrument clarity/ detail, sounds wonderful. The horns sound more like horns, the strings sound more like strings, the snozberries taste like snozzberries... I've listened to the old release about 7 times maybe, but this was like hearing it all for the first time. I love the energy in the fast-paced queues. I love the feel of the bass drum in a couple tracks, love the beauty of the Vivaldi arrangement, and I really enjoy the percussion and low instrumentation in 'The Execution.' My appreciation for this score has grown considerably thanks to this release. And I'm so impressed with what Mike M was able to accomplish with this re-mastering. Stop it.....no don’t....omg....how fast do air mail planes fly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 14, 2018 Author Share Posted July 14, 2018 21 hours ago, Bespin said: That's not the original artwork, there was a Promo LP promo released in 1973. Some websites may refer to it as a promo, but it wasn't; It was a completely illegal bootleg in every sense of the word. Nothing official about it whatsoever, just some guy stealing the recordings and making his own assembly and selling it for cash. It's a bootleg. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Wasn't the bootleg an illegal reprint of a promo LP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 On 14/07/2018 at 3:57 PM, Jay said: Some websites may refer to it as a promo, but it wasn't; It was a completely illegal bootleg in every sense of the word. Nothing official about it whatsoever, just some guy stealing the recordings and making his own assembly and selling it for cash. It's a bootleg. Yes it's likely possible, do they mention it in the new CD booklet? Anyway... damn www.soundtrackcollector.com... FIXED --> REMOVED FROM MY WEBSITES! I will update my previous post.... Thanks 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Mine's on it's way - yehaa! This is premiere buy for me as I resisted from getting the original CD then I would've had to discard that in the landfill bin to make way for this deluxe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Yes, the liner notes of the new edition talk about the bootleg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 The bootleg, which bootleg? 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 gwscores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aescalle 122 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 12:30 AM, Disco Stu said: Coincidentally this movie just last week came on the great streaming service Filmstruck, but for some reason it's a version that cuts out the overture from the beginning of the movie! That such a version should exist at all is a shame. The Bluray version include the "Overture", "Entracte" and the "Exit music" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 John Williams finest Americana music! My Warner DVD has both the "Overture", "Entracte" and "Exit music" included! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I love the "Bloop" heard in the Overture, sooo old fashioned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, theMaestraX said: John Williams finest Americana music! My Warner DVD has both the "Overture", "Entracte" and "Exit music" included! mine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Could someone tell me whether the Vivaldi concerto that's included on the expanded soundtrack is used as source music in the film, or is it used as regular underscoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Could someone tell me whether the Vivaldi concerto that's included on the expanded soundtrack is used as source music in the film, or is it used as regular underscoring? There's multiple minutes of a kid playing it on his guitar that's not included on this - maybe it was done on-set. Then Learning the Ropes starts as we pull away from the guitar boy (source in that shot), then it plays over a small montage where it's not source. See my isolated score video: On 7/7/2018 at 1:52 PM, Holko said: Learning the Ropes (Vivaldi's Guitar Concerto in D) I guess the minutes of guitar playing were recorded on set, I did not include them with dialogue here. This is a wonderful composition, and a very fitting choice, gives the scenes a calming, idyllic quality. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Holko said: There's multiple minutes of a kid playing it on his guitar that's not included on this - maybe it was done on-set. That's totally unrealistic! On 6/21/2018 at 11:22 PM, Jurassic Shark said: I find it very unrealistic that someone would play Vivaldi in cowboy-land, as his music fell into obscurity after the Baroque era and was virtually unknown until re-discovered in the 1920s. Good job, JW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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