Jay 37,346 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Two Mules for Sister Sara had an LP on MCA Records, just like Apollo 13, An American Tail, Darkman, Far & Away and The River did. TMFSS will be branded as a Heritage title, the others were not. Why? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Perhaps it has to be an older score to get the label "Heritage"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Mystery Men is from 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Oh, I forgot that was a Heritage release. I'm sure Mike can explain what's the criteria for a Heritage release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 It's release is the entire reason this thread was bumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I don't read entire threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jay said: Two Mules for Sister Sara had an LP on MCA Records, just like Apollo 13, An American Tail, Darkman and Far & Away did. TMFSS will be branded as a Heritage title, the others were not. Why? Who knows. Not “just like”, because the MCA releases of Sister Sara were all overseas. The U.S. album was on Kapp (unlike MCA a now *inactive* label which was indeed acquired by UMG): http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/21577/Two+Mules+For+Sister+Sara Again, my guess is that (at least domestically), Universal Music Group does not have perpetuity rights to this title, probably because of some sort of fine print. I have no inside knowledge on this but it’s my best guess given the evidence from the past two years that the TEN film scores all released in this Universal Heritage Series so far have all been free of the entanglement of album rights owned by Universal Music Group, a completely separate entity to Universal Pictures. Meanwhile a bunch of expansions of UMG owned albums have happened besides Far and Away and Darkman in the past two years — and Intrada has another one coming up soon (The River). None of them were branded as Universal Heritage Collection. Yavar Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Sure but the line isn't about other producers working on scores with UMG albums, the line is about Mike Matessino going through the Universal Pictures archives, which is why I only mentioned Matessino / Universal Pictures joints that came out after the line was announced in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Jay said: Sure but the line isn't about other producers working on scores with UMG albums, the line is about Mike Matessino going through the Universal Pictures archives, which is why I only mentioned Matessino / Universal Pictures joints that came out after the line was announced in my post. What "line" are you talking about? Doesn't seem to be something you quoted from MV in your reply to me...somehow I'm missing your point. I presume The River is going to be another Mattesino restoration; let's see if it has any Universal Heritage Collection language on it. I doubt it will. I also investigated further on Kapp (the U.S. label that released Two Mules for Sister Sara) -- in 2017 Intrada released The Hustler on CD, which was originally a Kapp LP:http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.10730/.f Now The Hustler was a Fox film and not a Universal film. However, I think this is relevant to our discussion: on the back cover, there Is NO mention of "Universal Music Group" (which bought out Kapp, which was originally an independent label I'm pretty sure): Now, I think that clearly indicates that Kapp did not get perpetuity licenses (at least not usually), and that even though they were later bought by UMG, UMG does not necessarily (or even likely) control any rights to titles Kapp released, like The Hustler or Two Mules for Sister Sara. Which means that the rights to that score fully reverted (at least in the United States) back to Universal Pictures, which is why that expansion can happen in the Universal Heritage Series, despite not being a premiere like the other ten titles done so far. Again, I have no inside info. But this is the conclusion my sleuthing leads me to. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: What "line" are you talking about? The Universal Heritage Collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Oh gotcha. I read it as a different kind of “line”. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post La La Land Records 46 Posted May 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2020 There is no rhyme or reason so just stop!!! Disco Stu, crumbs and mstrox 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 5 hours ago, La La Land Records said: There is no rhyme or reason so just stop!!! Since you're here, please forward this to Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Some guy on FSM is claiming these are the next 3 titles: Quote Universal Pictures Film Music Heritage Collection- 9th title: TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARA by Ennio Morricone -- In June/July- 10th title: THE THING by Ennio Morricone -- In July/August- 11th title: CAPE FEAR COLLECTION (1962/1991) by Bernard Herrmann and Elmer Bernstein -- No date https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=224&forumID=1&threadID=67395&archive=0 But he provides no source for his claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Never trust some guy on FSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 What do you mean? ~ MV confirms the FSM poster was just making it up Quote Wtf? Go peddle your lies elsewhere Troll MV & Quote Quote DAMN. Well the hope was nice while it lasted! I'm sure MV has other great stuff planned though. Yavar Yes we do. We would love to release The Thing and Cape Fear but they are not on any schedule. I dislike it when someone comes on here and speaks with authority as if they know what is happening when they clearly don't. MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Fucking FSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peremalfait 0 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Any possibility of a new updated Kolchak release ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Peremalfait said: Any possibility of a new updated Kolchak release ? Yes. It's the next UI Heritage release. Fall on LLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 Since we're on a new page, and Two Mules is out now, here's an updated list of the line so far June 2018: Colossus: The Forbin Project by Michel Colombier (La-La Land) Aug 2018: The Prisoner of Zenda by Henry Mancini (La-La Land) Nov 2018: Airport '77 by John Cacavas / The Concorde: Airport '79 by Lalo Schifrin (La-La Land) May 2019: The Sentinel by Gil Melle (La-La Land) June 2019: Fletch Lives by Harold Faltermeyer (La-La Land) Sep 2019: Child's Play 2 by Graeme Revell (La-La Land) Sep 2019: Rooster Cogburn by Laurence Rosenthal (Varese Sarabande) Oct 2019: Bride of Frankenstein by Franz Waxman (La-La Land) April 2020: Mystery Men by Stephen Warbeck & Shirley Walker (La-La Land) July 2020: Two Mules for Sister Sara by Ennio Morricone (La-La Land) Do any JWFanners own all 10? Here's the additional Mike Matessino / Unviersal Pictures titles that have come out since the line started, that aren't branded as being part of the line. Jun 2018: Small Soldiers by Jerry Goldsmith (Varese Sarabande) Oct 2028: Dracula by John Williams (Varese Sarabande) Jan 2019: Apollo 13 by James Horner (Intrada) Feb 2019: An American Tail by James Horner (Intrada) Aug 2019: Ghost Story by Philippe Sarde (Quartet) Dec 2019: Earthquake by John Williams (La-La Land) Jan 2020: Darkman by Danny Elfman (La-La Land) Mar 2020: Far & Away by John Williams (La-La Land) Mar 2020: The Big Fix by Bill Conti (Varese Sarabande) May 2020: The River by John Williams (Intrada) July 2020: The Seven-Per-Cent Solution by John Addison (Quartet) Yavar Moradi and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Seems Universal are very easy to work with, even factoring in all the releases prior to this heritage line. Wouldn't be shocked to see another Williams score or two from their vault this year. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 Yup, Universal Pictures has really been great to our labels of late. Let's hope the same holds true for Universal television! crumbs and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Give me Born on the 4th of July and Universal could close their vaults and I wouldn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 I am a fool and forgot at least four Matessino/Universal joints that have come out since the Heritage line started (Small Soldiers, Dracula, Ghost Story, The Big Fix). I've gone and added them into the post above. Overall, in the 26 months encompassing June 2018 to July 2020, there's been a whopping 22 films from Universal Pictures that have had their scores either premiere or get expanded by our specialty labels overseen by Matessino, almost one per month! That's quite a feat! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Quite a feat indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Other than everything John Williams scored for Universal, I think the Universal titles I'd most like to see MM tackle are: The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper by James Horner (1981) Midnight Run by Danny Elfman (1988) An American Tail Fievel Goes West by James Horner (1991) Sneakers by James Horner (1992) Death Becomes Her by Alan Silvestri (1992) Cop and a Half by Alan Silvestri (1993) We're Back A Dinosaur's Story by James Horner (1993) Casper by James Horner (1995) The Frighteners by Danny Elfman (1996) Jurassic Park III by Don Davis (2001) The Musketeer by David Arnold (2001) Edmilson and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Jay said: Other than everything John Williams scored for Universal, I think the Universal titles I'd most like to see MM tackle are: The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper by James Horner (1981) Midnight Run by Danny Elfman (1988) An American Tail Fievel Goes West by James Horner (1991) Sneakers by James Horner (1992) Death Becomes Her by Alan Silvestri (1992) Cop and a Half by Alan Silvestri (1993) We're Back A Dinosaur's Story by James Horner (1993) Casper by James Horner (1995) Why CASPER? I have it and think the ost is just fine. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I'm surprised Jurassic Park III hasn't come out yet, TBH. It's been nearly 4 years since the JP/TLW set came out and (I think) MM or MV said they'd be happy to tackle the third score. And I don't see any convoluted licensing issues preventing its release, barring Davis/Williams/someone senior at Amblin not wanting it released. 6 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Why CASPER? I have it and think the ost is just fine. ? Clearly there's unreleased music that Jay would like or he wants the score to have the deluxe expansion treatment, which goes beyond additional material. Usually it means a nice bump in sound quality for the whole score, especially if they transfer the master tapes anew and remaster it properly (Minority Report being an excellent example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 But Casper is as dynamic as it can possibly be. Any attempt to remaster it would just fuck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I don't know enough about the score or OST to comment on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 I love James Horner and like listening to all his scores in complete form. Simple as that. Yavar Moradi and bruce marshall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 How much music from Casper is unreleased? I've never seeen the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,097 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I'd love to get Death Becomes Her, because I missed getting the OST. I wonder what happened to Jurassic Park III, MV had indicated on FSM that it was coming after we got the Williams JP set and then time just passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I guess the master elements are extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 22 hours ago, Jay said: Midnight Run by Danny Elfman (1988) Yep! Been waiting for this one since MV casually mentioned that LLL was working on it. Probably my favorite Elfman score, and his most atypical Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 According to this video, the Universal Heritage line is being rebranded as "Universal Classics" The first title released under the new name will be Munster, Go Home! by Jack Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonDavis 172 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 On 7/25/2020 at 2:27 AM, crumbs said: I'm surprised Jurassic Park III hasn't come out yet, TBH. It's been nearly 4 years since the JP/TLW set came out and (I think) MM or MV said they'd be happy to tackle the third score. And I don't see any convoluted licensing issues preventing its release, barring Davis/Williams/someone senior at Amblin not wanting it released. Clearly there's unreleased music that Jay would like or he wants the score to have the deluxe expansion treatment, which goes beyond additional material. Usually it means a nice bump in sound quality for the whole score, especially if they transfer the master tapes anew and remaster it properly (Minority Report being an excellent example). The issue may be that in order to put this out you have to do a deal with both Universal Pictures (shouldn't be a problem) and then do a manufacturing deal with Universal Music Group. These deals aren't cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, Jay said: According to this video, the Universal Heritage line is being rebranded as "Universal Classics" The first title released under the new name will be Munster, Go Home! by Jack Marshall Good, that original title really was unwieldy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 The latest Universal/Matessino joint is Swashbuckler by John Addison for Quartet Records https://www.quartetrecords.com/product/swashbuckler-2-cd/ And I guess I should mention Casper as well, for La-La Land Records https://lalalandrecords.com/casper-25th-anniversary-remastered-limited-edition-2-cd-set/ Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 OK I'm now maintaining the list of titles in the main post. The latest release from this collection is now available: Munster, Go Home! by Jack Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 FIELD OF DREAMS expanded may be in the works. Not sure under the CLASSIC banner or INTRADA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 The latest release from this collection is now available: TREMORS: LIMITED EDITION LLLCD 1551 Universal Pictures Film Music Classics Collection Music by Ernest Troost Additional Music by Robert Folk Limited Edition of 3000 Units RETAIL PRICE: $24.98 https://lalalandrecords.com/tremors-limited-edition/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 ON IT Btw... anyone know when "World Is Not Enough" will be back in stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 UNI is the studio im most keen on There is TONS of NEVER released or barely released scores in their vaults. Unlike most of the other studios. Wish they could step up the pace and release it before us Silver Agers kick the bucket Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2021 Forgive me if I missed a thread about this, but has anyone noted that a lot of these Universal Heritage releases are now on streaming services? Colossus: The Forbin Project Youtube Music / Spotify The Prisoner of Zenda Youtube Music / Spotify Airport '77 Youtube Music / Spotify The Concorde: Airport '79 Youtube Music / Spotify The Sentinel Youtube Music / Spotify Fletch Lives Youtube Music / Spotify Child's Play 2 Youtube Music / Spotify Rooster Cogburn Youtube Music / Spotify The Bride of Frankenstein Youtube Music / Spotify Jurassic Shark, Holko and 1977 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 I personally had no idea that was the case Looks like its only the first 8 titles in the line (Colossus through Frankenstein), Mystery Men onward I don't see on the streaming sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 12/1/2020 at 9:37 PM, bruce marshall said: UNI is the studio im most keen on There is TONS of NEVER released or barely released scores in their vaults. Unlike most of the other studios. Wish they could step up the pace and release it before us Silver Agers kick the bucket On a sidenote, do you think God has access to all master recordings in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Interesting - they're also available for purchase, at least on iTunes. I'm kind of tempted to blind-buy Child's Play 2 at half the LLL price (sorry LLL in this instance...) solely based on Kasey's enthusiasm Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 I mean, you don't have to buy it blind, you can legally stream it for free on Spotify or youtube in its entirety, and then decide to buy it or not Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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