Amer 2,095 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just saw a heads up at FSM, A Hybrid stereo Channel pressing of the OST program of SCHINDLER'S LIST is coming soon via UMG Hong Kong. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVFKLL4 https://www.importcds.com/schindlers-list-original-soundtrack-hyrbid-sacd/600753841235 http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=129857&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 A true new SACD mix or just a racket? I know several "false" SACD hit the market few years ago, made by EMI in the early 2000... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Why not release it on bluray audio? Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,095 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bespin said: A true new SACD mix or just a racket? We know several "false" SACD hit the market few years ago, made by Universal too... Which one? This one looks legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Amer said: Which one? This one looks legit. I know they tried it with some Charles Aznavour albums, it was a commercial failure. We learned few time later, that they used the stereo mixes and and tweaked them with an equalizer to make a false multi-channel mix. They were legit Universal France EMI CDs. Don't always trust big labels when they play with their back catalogue. Money is a concern for them, not quality. EDIT: Sorry it was few years before Universal, it was EMI. But I doubt they are the only label which tried to sell "false" SACD on the market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,095 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 damnit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Is SACD still a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 It refuses to die, yet it's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Wonder if this has been assembled from modern scans of the session tapes? If so, I'd take that as soft confirmation that something else is coming... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Does anyone know who it's remixed by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Junkie XL? bollemanneke and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Tiësto! He's good enough to have made it onto a Disney/Zimmer album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I don't think that necessarily implies his music is any good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Now, I'm not usually one to advocate violence except for non-serious quips, but... whoever did this deserves to get shot, but not immediately fatally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Wow. Unbelievably stupid. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Bespin said: few years ago ... early 2000... Yeah and 1990 still only feels like ten years ago... Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Yeah, 1900 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 That's all I need to believe in a black Friday LLL release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,095 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 The last Williams related SACD was CLOSE ENCOUNTERS and that too was remastered by Steve Hoffman (who did the DCC RAIDERS cd and Vinyl) That SACD was marginal improvement since it used a stereo album master. Honestly, after LLL's superb presentation and sound quality I didn't feel the need to revisit the CE3K SACD. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 SACD... I don't even know what that means! 😂 bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I’ll wait for the expanded release. Then when it’s released, like SPR, with no remastering and only two minutes of new material, I’ll skip it. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Richard said: Does anyone know who it's remixed by? Just what are you getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, rough cut said: I’ll wait for the expanded release. Then when it’s released, like SPR, with no remastering and only two minutes of new material, I’ll skip it. So basically you're just patiently waiting to skip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Just what are you getting at? I'm asking if anyone knows who has remixed it to 5.1? The advert says "hybrid". So...I assume its in 5.1, and stereo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 "Hydrid" is that the guy who remastered it? I say it's a fake 5.1 mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Hybrid means it has both an SACD layer and a CD layer. Has nothing to do with stereo vs. multichannel. This release is stereo on both layers. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 This is likely a rescan of the analog album master and encoded to DSD format. Probably a bit like Dances With Wolves, Frances or The Mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,387 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Or a rescan of the sessions and a superb polished album reconstruction like the recent Star Wars rereleases. crumbs and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Those are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/6/2018 at 11:22 PM, Josh500 said: So basically you're just patiently waiting to skip it. I assure you, he does. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Why bother purchasing the OST when you can purchase Mike Matessino's 25th Anniversary Expanded Edition in November? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Well, money is certainly a factor, considering you can get the OST for £3.99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Quiet, you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 OK, now it's £4.99: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Saving-Private-Ryan-John-Williams/dp/B000009DUY/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1533718704&sr=1-1&keywords=saving+private+ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/6/2018 at 2:44 PM, Holko said: Now, I'm not usually one to advocate violence except for non-serious quips, but... whoever did this deserves to get shot, but not immediately fatally. Wow...I mean wow. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 This SACD will probably be the digital master from 1993 upconverted to DSD. I got the opportunity to listen to the so called K2HD remastering, which claims to be remastered at 100kHz 24bit. No difference at all from the previous CD. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ http://www.elusivedisc.com/John-Williams-Schindlers-List-Soundtrack-K2-HD-Import-CD/productinfo/UNIHDI9692N/ Same thing with CE3K 192kHz 24bit DVD-Audio from 2004 and the SACD from 2015. Both were sourced from the album master. Even though Steve Hoffman remastered the SACD, I still struggle to hear any difference from both these super ultra mega blaster resolution releases to the 1990 Varése standard resolution 44.1kHz 16bit CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I say beware of those asian reissues. If it's important, it will get an international release. And probably, we'll get a much better thing than this SACD for the 20th anniversary of SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Schindler's List: 20th Anniversary Cassette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Schindler's List: 20th Anniversary Cassette Thanks, I'll wait for the 8-track reissue. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 8 hours ago, crocodile said: Wow...I mean wow. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattris 416 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 9 hours ago, phbart said: This SACD will probably be the digital master from 1993 upconverted to DSD. I got the opportunity to listen to the so called K2HD remastering, which claims to be remastered at 100kHz 24bit. No difference at all from the previous CD. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ http://www.elusivedisc.com/John-Williams-Schindlers-List-Soundtrack-K2-HD-Import-CD/productinfo/UNIHDI9692N/ Same thing with CE3K 192kHz 24bit DVD-Audio from 2004 and the SACD from 2015. Both were sourced from the album master. Even though Steve Hoffman remastered the SACD, I still struggle to hear any difference from both these super ultra mega blaster resolution releases to the 1990 Varése standard resolution 44.1kHz 16bit CD. I own both editions of Schindler's List. Directly comparing the ripped files from each CD (Jewish Town as the selection), the K2HD CD is better than the original: the sound is clearer, more forward, and slightly louder. The improvement is substantial enough that I'm confident I would get a 100% score in a blind comparison test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 That looks like more an EQ job on the existing master than a proper remaster itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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