John 2,032 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 As the thread title states, what are the odds of the Lord of the Rings trilogy eventually having a 4K UHD release? I understand the visual effects in the films were rendered in 2K, and that that may hinder the possibility of the trilogy ever being released in a higher resolution than it is currently available in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Guaranteed to happen eventually, no question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Let’s hope they fix the color issues and present them in a nicer package than the blu rays. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Of course it will happen. There's too much money to be made. The question is, what will we get? As you correctly observe, the effects were rendered in 2K, meaning they'd either have to redo all of them (unlikely) or we'll simply get an upscale (almost certainly). And as @Disco Stu points out, hopefully at a minimum they'll have corrected the colour issues that plague FOTR. In any event, even with on just an upscale the HDR alone would be worth it. I'd love for this to happen, but what I'd like to see more than just an upscaled release of what we have. We need the original cuts of the theatrical and extended editions in 4K HDR. Then Jackson can do a new cut of all three (six?) films with deleted scenes and whatever Lucasing he wants to do and create a cohesive, connected sextet if that's what his heart desires. But all this should be done in ADDITION to the existing cuts, not in lieu of. Jackson can stick Martin Freeman in the flashback scenes, put The Hobbit Gloin at the Council of Elrond and have Tauriel running around Rivendell for all I care, as long as we always have the existing cuts in whatever the latest, best format is. Even without new cuts however, there is a ton of unseen footage from these films that need to be seen. On top of that, thousands of hours of documentary footage shot by Costa Botes that is sitting in storage somewhere. We need new documentaries, a retrospective film, new commentaries, isolated score, deleted scenes, etc. Any future release need to be done right and given the care and respect befitting these classics place in cinema history. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 48 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Jackson can stick Martin Freeman in the flashback scenes I'm sure George Lucas will offer his services as a consultant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Who needs more cuts? We have 6 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Nick1066 said: Of course it will happen. There's too much money to be made. The question is, what will we get? As you correctly observe, the effects were rendered in 2K, meaning they'd either have to redo all of them (unlikely) or we'll simply get an upscale (almost certainly). And as @Disco Stu points out, hopefully at a minimum they'll have corrected the colour issues that plague FOTR. In any event, even with on just an upscale the HDR alone would be worth it. I'd love for this to happen, but what I'd like to see more than just an upscaled release of what we have. We need the original cuts of the theatrical and extended editions in 4K HDR. Then Jackson can do a new cut of all three (six?) films with deleted scenes and whatever Localising he wants to do and create a cohesive, connected sextet if that's what his heard desires. But all this should be done in ADDITION to the existing cuts, not in lieu of. Jackson can stick Martin Freeman in the flashback scenes, put The Hobbit Gloin at the Council of Elrond and have Tauriel running around Rivendell for all I care, as long as we always have the existing cuts in whatever the latest, best format is. Even without new cuts however, there is a ton of unseen footage from these films that need to be seen. On top of that, thousands of hours of documentary footage shot by Costa Botes that is sitting in storage somewhere. We need new documentaries, a retrospective film, new commentaries, isolated score, deleted scenes, etc. Any future release need to be done right and given the care and respect befitting these classics place in cinema history. I hope they fix Treebeard's voice. It sounds like they just settled for that guy who voiced Gimli. ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I hope it's the theatrical cuts (except for TTT, but only the Merry and Pippin scene at the end) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I haven't even watched my existing blu-rays which I purchased five years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 1:38 AM, Wojism said: I hope they fix Treebeard's voice. It sounds like they just settled for that guy who voiced Gimli. ......... Two for the price of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Odds 100% in your favour OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Stumbled across this the other day. If these are truly 4K, then perhaps there's new hope for a home video release...even if just a fool's hope.... Quote Starting at 11:30am, for a single ticket price of $15, we will be presenting the Extended Editions of all three The Lord of the Rings films, on 4K digital prints, back-to-back at The Frida Cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 They probably just converted it to 4:3 format by adding more black space to the top/bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 9:04 PM, Quintus said: Odds 100% in your favour OP. Of course. Why would anyone think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yeah - hugely popular movie with a large collector-heavy fanbase. They sold Blu-rays with a special bookshelf. This is coming to 4K. I doubt there will be any meaningful new special features, at least not on the first go round. 4K is enough of a reason for fans to trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Unless 8K becomes the standard before they release LOTR in 4K! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yes, we're going to need 8K in the future for all those people with bionic eyes! They should just make it 16K. That's twice as good as 8K! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Nah, go straight for 16k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 If you take HP for exemple, the release in 4K only applies to the theatrical cuts, not the extended cuts for HP1 and HP2… And if they release only the theatrical cut in 4K HDR I would be truly pissed… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 The HP extended cuts were only a gimmick, restoring all the deleted scenes that were already available on the first DVD release. The LOTR extended editions are much more substantial and important. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Indeed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Theatrical Cuts > Extended Cuts Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Agreed. I consider them the definitive versions of the films. The extended cuts are somewhat of a mixed bag for me when it comes to additional material; they’re a novelty for the hardcore fans who want to see the extra material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I wouldn't say they're a novelty. The existence of the extended cut is predicated on the fact that we experience pace differently when we watch a film on the small screen, so you can tailor-make films with a different flow: they're not assembly cuts. I found that most people who prefer the theatrical cut are ones who wish to recapture the theatrical experience of watching the films originally, whereas I like the theatrical cut - for the theater; the extended cut - for my home. Although there is a merit to having the theatrical cut - if you introduce new audiences to the series, you'd probably want to start them off with the theatrical cut of the first film, and than progress into the extended cuts. Besides reintroducing into the edit some key character moments, the extended cuts - which have come out as the edit of the next film was taking shape - allowed the filmmakers to knit the films together all the closer; they allowed them to fix shots, remove mistakes and polish effects, etcetra. Often, the flow of individual sequences is much better at the extended cut: I'm thinking the charge of the Rohirrim in particular: in the theatrical, we cut in the middle of it to Pippin alerting Gandalf to what's happening with Denethor, which doesn't ever work for me. The score often flows better, too. I think even the transfer used for the Blu-ray is different. King Kong, on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 I don’t hate them. I just think a lot of the additional material is extraneous, and don’t do much to improve the pacing of the films. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 The Extended cuts of LOTR are fantastic, especially for the first two films. On ROTK the returns are somewhat diminished (and in a couple cases actually detract from the film), but all in all each is superior to the Theatrical presentation (the latter of which are also fantastic). The Hobbit is another matter entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 If ever there was an extended cut of diminished returns, its that of The Two Towers: Have one less scene with Treebeard, and "push" that whole subplot further "down" the line, as it were. As it is, the cut from the initial assault on Helm's Deep to the Entmoot is the most unfortunate editing choice of the entire sextet. Oh, and King Kong's got an extended cut, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,687 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Interesting... I thought TTT was the one film that was hurt by the TE due to slightly too much footage being removed. I'm not sure I've ever watched the FotR EE, but RotK is definitely best in its TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Peter Jackson has no plans to give 'Lord of the Rings' the 'Star Wars special edition' treatment. Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I like the fact that Bad Taste may likely be released in UHD before Lord of the Rings! John and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, John said: Peter Jackson has no plans to give 'Lord of the Rings' the 'Star Wars special edition' treatment. Good. That means no motion-captured Gollum, as he was in the Hobbit movies. Umm... wasn't he that in LotR too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 217 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Yep. 🤦♂️ Anyway, I hope they'll eventually release the 48fps versions of the Hobbit films. I know I'm in the minority, but I thought it looked great. SUH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Another Thorin avatar? This is getting out of hand! Evanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That means no motion-captured Gollum, as he was in the Hobbit movies. Umm... wasn't he that in LotR too? Maybe they meant FOTR, i dont think there was motion capture there and golum design does not look the same as the subsequent films. Jurassic Shark, Evanus and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 We could use some deleted scenes on a new release. Smaug The Iron and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogob 2 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 To ever so slightly quench people's thirst, I was doing some digging a while back and I came across the portfolio website of Dylan Cole. https://dylan-cole-j5dx.squarespace.com/return-of-the-king It has some stills of the matte painting work he did in their original resolution. Quite frankly they're beautiful. Sadly he seems to have updated his website and has reduced the section on Return of the King. He used to have a lot more examples, as well as a feature on all of them to click and cycle through the different elements. There was a great one where you could see the before and after of a Barad-dûr shot showing the original shot of the miniature John and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, rogob said: To ever so slightly quench people's thirst, I was doing some digging a while back and I came across the portfolio website of Dylan Cole. https://dylan-cole-j5dx.squarespace.com/return-of-the-king It has some stills of the matte painting work he did in their original resolution. Quite frankly they're beautiful. Sadly he seems to have updated his website and has reduced the section on Return of the King. He used to have a lot more examples, as well as a feature on all of them to click and cycle through the different elements. There was a great one where you could see the before and after of a Barad-dûr shot showing the original shot of the miniature Ooh, those are gorgeous. Also, welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogob 2 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, John said: Ooh, those are gorgeous. Also, welcome! No problem. I'm disappointed I didn't save those images sooner though cause he used to have a still from the shot with Frodo and Sam on the side of mount doom when the eagles come in, when the black gates open, and a number of minas tirith shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I thought there were news regarding a 4K release Come on this needs to be done. I’ve been holding on buying the the Blu-ray EE for ...well a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, toothless said: I thought there were news regarding a 4K release Come on this needs to be done. I’ve been holding on buying the the Blu-ray EE for ...well a long time. Me too! I still only own LOTR in the original EE DVDs from 15+ years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 15 years ago was 2004. The first Blu Ray titles came out in 2006 and the LOTR EEs were not released on blu until 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I corrected my post. I meant the original DVD boxsets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I upgraded to Blu-ray because it was cheap over the holidays (and also bought digital HD versions of the TEs and EEs more recently, because I'm dumb), but I haven't watched the movies since before the first Hobbit movie. At this point, I'm going to hold out until I have a TV that actually plays HD video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I hope if a 4K set comes along, it'll look more presentable than the generic, bland blurays. I'm not hoping it could reach the level of the DVD set, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 Yes, I upgraded to steelbooks because the regular blu rays were such a cheap looking presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/20/2019 at 2:56 PM, rogob said: To ever so slightly quench people's thirst, I was doing some digging a while back and I came across the portfolio website of Dylan Cole. https://dylan-cole-j5dx.squarespace.com/return-of-the-king It has some stills of the matte painting work he did in their original resolution. Quite frankly they're beautiful. Sadly he seems to have updated his website and has reduced the section on Return of the King. He used to have a lot more examples, as well as a feature on all of them to click and cycle through the different elements. There was a great one where you could see the before and after of a Barad-dûr shot showing the original shot of the miniature Stunning images there. I wish I had a proper desktop version of this one, it's spectacular: Arpy and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkanar 0 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 hi everyone i see some 4k releases for lord of the ring do you believe this releases ? it is technically possible ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Where do you see those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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