Hans Zimmer's WONDER WOMAN 1984 (2020)

[Edmilson 8,673]

Well, my favorite track so far is Truth. Very emotional and uplifting.

 

Parts of the score sound like The Lion King (both the 94 and the 2019 versions), others reminded me of DaVinci Code, The Pacific, Angels and Demons, etc.

 

But yeah, this is more like Zimmer trying to write an orchestral, traditional super-hero score of the 2010s. It's like his own version of Silvestri's Avengers than any other super-hero score he wrote.

[Thor 8,189]

10 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

What's the highlights?

 

As others have mentioned, "1984" is a fun track. Go to 9:08 in the video Obi posted above.

[Edmilson 8,673]

1984 is what a Zimmer Star Wars score would (will?) sound like. But yeah, pretty good cue.

[Lord Zimmer 211]

I’m so damn good.

[SilverTrumpet 642]

I can't tell you the last time I really liked a Zimmer score, its been at least a decade and a half, but this is a great listen. 

[Edmilson 8,673]

Is it just me or does this part (0:47 to 0:52) sounds like it was lifted directly from The Pacific theme?

 

 

 

[WampaRat 1,106]

Finally finished my first listen. I was expecting the second half of the album to really tank by the way some people described it.  But I didn’t mind it. 

A really great score. Reminded me of why I used to really enjoy this guys work in the early 2000s. My personal playlist involves all the tracks except for “Already Gone”, and “Radio Waves” and the “Lost and Found” bonus track. That trims it down to a nice 65 min album

Man “1984” - I don’t think Zimmer has sounded that jubilant and fun since his score to Thunderbirds!

[Erik Woods 610]

Sensational score. One of the best of 2020 for sure!

 

-Erik-

[Bespin 8,673]

5 minutes ago, Erik Woods said:

Sensational score. One of the best of 2020 for sure!

 

-Erik-

 

It took how many ghost writers for this?

 

No, there'll never be a 'Z' section in my discography.

[Erik Woods 610]

Just now, Bespin said:

 

It took how many ghost writers for this?

 

LAME!

[Bespin 8,673]

We all know how Zimmer "works".

[Erik Woods 610]

2 minutes ago, Bespin said:

We all know how Zimmer "works".

Fantastic... and you probably think he's the only composer to ever use help, additional composers or ghostwriters, right?

 

 

-Erik-

[TheUlyssesian 2,566]

1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

Is it just me or does this part (0:47 to 0:52) sounds like it was lifted directly from The Pacific theme?

 

 

 

 

It is a very very basic progression. Might be in dozens of music pieces.

 

I think the 1:04 piece is the hook - so to say.

[Bespin 8,673]

2 minutes ago, Erik Woods said:

Fantastic... and you probably think he's the only composer to ever use help, additional composers or ghostwriters, right?

 

 

-Erik-

 

The subject of this conversation is not William Ross!

[DrTenma 117]

The first 3 tracks are the most enjoyable Zimmer in years. As many others I feel the score tanks a little bit when it gets less heroic and more dark in the Zimmer style. 

[Knight of Ren 966]

I just finished listening the whole album and I really liked especially the first 5 tracks which are the most fun Zimmer has been in years. The second half tends to drag a bit because of the excesisvely loud action tracks (I really don't like Radio Waves) but still has some nice tracks in between to keep you interested (my favourite being Truth)

 

My only other complain would be the lack of some interesting material for the new villains which didn't really stood out to me on the first listen, but the new theme / variation on WW's theme is great and feels like a natural development of her theme

 

I hope following Zimmer scores like No Time To Die or Top Gun 2 will sound more like this and less like, let's say Dark Phoenix

[MedigoScan 331]

I still enjoy Dark Phoenix for what it is (okay: moreso his Xperiments album), but this is indeed a marked improvement from that and most of his recent scores.

[Knight of Ren 966]

43 minutes ago, MedigoScan said:

I still enjoy Dark Phoenix for what it is (okay: moreso his Xperiments album), but this is indeed a marked improvement from that and most of his recent scores.

I also prefer the Xperiments album over the score itself because it feels like those same ideas were allowed much more development and variation in sound, which the score itself lacked in my opinion

[toothless 984]

The smile I had listening to 1984! 

[crumbs 14,690]

Didn't Zimmer say he was done with scoring superhero movies like 5 years ago? 

[The Train Station 8,547]

He lied.

[Arpy 4,159]

16 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Didn't Zimmer say he was done with scoring superhero movies like 5 years ago? 

It's all about that sweet, sweet dough. 

 

Had a listen to this yesterday, everything sounds like it was sequenced on a computer. The brass sounded like a synth patch through a keyboard.

[Jay 39,150]

40 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Didn't Zimmer say he was done with scoring superhero movies like 5 years ago? 

 

 

https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26231-hans-zimmer-retires-from-superhero-genre

[Obi 409]

 

[gkgyver 1,647]

3 hours ago, Arpy said:

It's all about that sweet, sweet dough. 

 

Had a listen to this yesterday, everything sounds like it was sequenced on a computer. The brass sounded like a synth patch through a keyboard.

 

Not only that. A synth patch from 15 years ago. 

 

It's disgustingly close to that ear bleeding sound you get when taking a Hollywood Brass 12 horns marcato sample patch, and just hammer chords with it. 

[Yavar Moradi 2,940]

On 12/16/2020 at 3:43 PM, Bespin said:

 

It took how many ghost writers for this?

 

No, there'll never be a 'Z' section in my discography.

 

Yavar

 

[Edmilson 8,673]

I'm glad Zimmer didn't retired from super-hero scores. WW might be his best score for a comic book movie so far.

[Jay 39,150]

Now on Spotify

 

https://open.spotify.com/album/1S6PQvbIyUIS9P6Cxu9lmO?si=A6pJwQ95S_-8bVXXMyQ6DA

[Obi 409]

 

 

[TSMefford 1,525]

5 hours ago, Edmilson said:

I'm glad Zimmer didn't retired from super-hero scores. WW might be his best score for a comic book movie so far.

 

Certainly his most melodic maybe. I don't know about best though. 

[Edmilson 8,673]

Well, his scores for the Nolan Batman trilogy all have their moments, but I wouldn't consider them favorites of mine. Man of Steel is a genuinely bad score and Amazing Spider-Man 2 has some good material, but I hate that Electro theme. BvS is decent, though, and Dark Phoenix left no impression on me.

[The Train Station 8,547]

If he's so rotten a composer, why does he keep getting rehired?

[TSMefford 1,525]

4 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Well, his scores for the Nolan Batman trilogy all have their moments, but I wouldn't consider them favorites of mine. Man of Steel is a genuinely bad score and Amazing Spider-Man 2 has some good material, but I hate that Electro theme. BvS is decent, though, and Dark Phoenix left no impression on me.

 

I can agree with most of that. But for some reason I don't really find this quite as good as his Nolan scores. Those scores feel more cohesive than this one does and really commit to the tone, but this one feels a little disjointed at times. I'm still trying to await final judgement until I see the film itself. I may like it better at that point.

[Edmilson 8,673]

Okay, so I just watched the movie, and there's a seriously "What the fuck?" moment involving the score.

 

No spoilers, but in the climax, during a crutial confrontation between Diana and Max Lord, the score starts playing Beautiful Lie, from the score of Batman v Superman:

 

 

And it's extremely weird because the scene in question doesn't involve Batman, Superman nor any of the characters from the Zack Snyder movie.

 

The only explanation I can think of is that Patty put that cue in the temp track and fell in love with it, then asked Zimmer to re-record it (it doesn't appear to be tracked from the BvS OST).

[Edmilson 8,673]

According to some people at the HZ Forum, this cue was also used at some point in the movie:

 

 

[gkgyver 1,647]

Zimmer regurgitates himself constantly, but a rerecorded temp cue is a shock? 

[Edmilson 8,673]

In Williams terms, this is like Spielberg asking him to re-record Here They Come for an action scene of an Indiana Jones movie, just because he liked the cue in the temp.

[KK 3,308]

21 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

According to some people at the HZ Forum, this cue was also used at some point in the movie:

 

 

 

Huh...

 

 

[MattyO 62]

35 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

In Williams terms, this is like Spielberg asking him to re-record Here They Come for an action scene of an Indiana Jones movie, just because he liked the cue in the temp.

I think it’s more akin to Spielberg using the original recording of Desert Chase to score The Jungle Chase in KotCS.

 

There’s quotes from Zimmer saying that they did use Beautiful Lie in the temp and he was trying to write a unique cue but they eventually settled on “well it’s the same cinematic universe and it’s a cue by me, so why not just use the same piece.”

[The Train Station 8,547]

It wasn't a bad piece in BvS, but now it's been cheapened.

[12-Mile Reef 127]

"We cut to it when we were editing... Hans was like 'But I wrote that song for this universe so why aren't we using it? That's what you do with themes.' ...It was so perfect and we cut to the rhythm of it exactly. So then it was just great, you know,  it was great. It was true. And it's like, yeah,  we're the DC Universe and we should reuse great scenes."
 

Quote from director Patty Jenkins

 

https://thedirect.com/article/wonder-woman-1984-batman-v-superman-song-gal-gadot

[TSMefford 1,525]

11 minutes ago, John Chambers said:

"We cut to it when we were editing... Hans was like 'But I wrote that song for this universe so why aren't we using it? That's what you do with themes.' ...It was so perfect and we cut to the rhythm of it exactly. So then it was just great, you know,  it was great. It was true. And it's like, yeah,  we're the DC Universe and we should reuse great scenes."
 

Quote from director Patty Jenkins

 

https://thedirect.com/article/wonder-woman-1984-batman-v-superman-song-gal-gadot

 

That sounds very Hans. Who cares what it's for. It's a DC song right? Just throw it in there!

[TheUlyssesian 2,566]

Isn’t this like PJ using Nazgul theme for wolves attack in Hobbit An Unexpected Journey?

[Edmilson 8,673]

It was very off-putting to hear Batfleck's theme when the scene doesn't involve him at all.

[Jay 39,150]

This movie came out before Christmas in other countries?

[Edmilson 8,673]

Yep, it premiered last Thursday here in Brazil and in other countries as well, like China and Japan.

[gkgyver 1,647]

8 hours ago, TSMefford said:

 

That sounds very Hans. Who cares what it's for. It's a DC song right? Just throw it in there!

 

But didn't you read? "That's how themes work"! 

[The Train Station 8,547]

Any hot pics of Gal Gadot in her sexy Wonder Woman outfit?

[gkgyver 1,647]

Is that her? Doesn't look like her. 

[Mephariel 483]

On 12/16/2020 at 8:50 AM, Edmilson said:

Well, my favorite track so far is Truth. Very emotional and uplifting.

 

Parts of the score sound like The Lion King (both the 94 and the 2019 versions), others reminded me of DaVinci Code, The Pacific, Angels and Demons, etc.

 

But yeah, this is more like Zimmer trying to write an orchestral, traditional super-hero score of the 2010s. It's like his own version of Silvestri's Avengers than any other super-hero score he wrote.

 

I agree about "Truth." That is a great closer to a great score. "1984" is an absolute blast to listen to and is one of my contender for cue of the year. "Themyscira" and "Games" are also great cues. Reminds me of  early 2000s Zimmer.