Hans Zimmer and Harold Faltermeyer‘s TOP GUN: MAVERICK (2022)

[John 2031]

Hans Zimmer & Harold Faltermeyer to score ‘Top Gun: Maverick’.

 

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Tom Cruise revealed in a video message at this yesterday’s Hollywood in Vienna concert that Hans Zimmer will be scoring the upcoming action drama Top Gun: Maverick. Hans-Zimmer.com has confirmed that the composer will be collaborating with Harold Faltermeyer, who composed the music for Tony Scott’s 1986 original film. Cruise has previously mentioned that Faltermeyer’s music will be featured in the sequel. Top Gun: Maverick is directed by Joseph Kosinski (Oblivion, Tron Legacy) and stars Cruise, alongside Miles Teller, Val Kilmer, Jon Hamm, Ed Harris, Jennifer Connelly, Glen Powell, Lewis Pullman, Charles Parnell, Jay Ellis, Bashir Salahuddin, Danny Ramirez and Monica Barbaro. Peter Craig (The Town), Justin Marks (The Jungle Book) and Eric Warren Singer (American Gustle) wrote the screenplay. Cruise is also producing the project with Jerry Bruckheimer (Pirates of the Caribbean, Armageddon) and David Ellison (Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation). Zimmer has previously scored the Cruise-produced Mission: Impossible II and The Last Samurai, as well as numerous movies produced by Bruckheimer, including the Cruise-starring Days of Thunder. The sequel is set to be released on June 26, 2020 by Paramount Pictures.

 

[Nick Parker 3034]

Faltermeyer is still alive?

 

We need more scores like Running Man!

 

 

[Cerebral Cortex 2842]

Fantastic! Looking forward to it. 

[Bilbo 3616]

As long as I hear the Top Gun anthem and Danger Zone I'm happy. 

[Naïve Old Fart 7501]

As long as I don't hear THE SUN AIN'T GONNA SHINE ANYMORE, I'll be happy.

[Bilbo 3616]

39 minutes ago, Richard said:

As long as I don't hear THE SUN AIN'T GONNA SHINE ANYMORE, I'll be happy.

 

What about playing with the boys?

[Manakin Skywalker 3589]

[John 2031]

I laugh because it's funny, but I weep because it's true.

[Thor 5782]

Sounds like a perfect collaboration to me, although I wouldn't have objected to Faltermeyer doing it solo either.

 

At least we'll finally get a TOP GUN score release, even if it isn't the original we all crave. Hopefully, anyway.

[The Illustrious Jerry 3353]

Faltermeyer? Add that to the list of Zimmer's best chums.

[Thor 5782]

There would probably have been no Zimmer without Faltermeyer. TOP GUN is really the prototype of the type of power anthems Zimmer would perfect about a decade later.

[Dixon Hill 4232]

Man this will be a throwback in every way.

[Makeshift Python 21]

I look forward to another soundtrack that turns out to be just a bunch of pop tunes and only two tracks by Faltermeyer.

[Edmilson 4477]

Seems okay

 

 

[Bilbo 3616]

Does it have superheroes? No.

Does it have Danger Zone and a P-51?

 

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

[Edmilson 4477]

My first introduction to Faltermeyer's music was not through one of his classic 80s movies, but through this horrendous remix featuring a bizarre frog with a dangling penis that inexplicably was a success on the mid-2000s:

 

 

Only years later I watched Beverly Hills Cop and recognized the theme.

[Richard Penna 2496]

I often like trailer music but that was absolutely godawful music.

 

Why can't Faltermeyer do this by himself?

[HunterTech 684]

Since when was the last time Zimmer actually provided music for the trailer? Seems at least his more recent efforts don't really use stuff from the movie (that isn't a diegetic track at least).

[Edmilson 4477]

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Top Gun: Maverick Release Date Moved Up by Paramount

 

According to Deadline, Paramount Pictures has changed the release date for director Joseph Kosinski’s highly-anticipated aviation sequel Top Gun: Maverick. Originally set to debut on June 26, the Tom Cruise-led film will now hit the theaters on Wednesday, June 24. The film was previously scheduled to go up against Warner Bros. Pictures’ In the Heights film, but now Top Gun: Maverick will no longer have any competition on its new release date.

 

Top Gun: Maverick is set in a world of drone technology and fifth-generation fighters along with exploring the end of the era of dogfighting. Maverick (once again played by Tom Cruise) is now a flight instructor, who takes Bradley Bradshaw (played by Miles Teller), the son of Maverick’s late partner Nick “Goose” Bradshaw, under his wing. The film also stars Jon Hamm, Val Kilmer, Jennifer Connelly, Glen Powell and Ed Harris.

 

Joseph Kosinski, who previously directed Cruise in Oblivion, will helm the sequel, with Peter Craig, Justin Marks and Eric Warren Singer penning the script.

 

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1125084-top-gun-maverick-sets-new-release-date-two-days-earlier

[Unlucky Bastard 7770]

Two days, wow.

[Jay 30938]

Paramount moves Top Gun: Maverick back from November 19, 2021 to May 27, 2022

[Thor 5782]

23 minutes ago, Jay said:

Paramount moves Top Gun: Maverick back from November 19, 2021 to May 27, 2022

 

Damn. I had looked forward to this premiering on my birthday.

[Naïve Old Fart 7501]

11 hours ago, Thor said:

 

Damn. I had looked forward to this premiering on my birthday.

Just move your birthday 

 

 

 

 

On 12/16/2019 at 2:23 PM, His Royal Noelness said:

Does it have Danger Zone and a P-51?

P-51! Cadillac of the sky!!!!!

[Mephariel 309]

Interesting comment from Tina Guo, who worked on the film:

 

"Top Gun was a little bit more traditional because it was fully orchestrated. There were a lot of melodies from the first movie that appeared."

 

https://composer.spitfireaudio.com/en/articles/tina-guo-on-her-journey-to-musical-ascendancy-collaborating-with-hans-zimmer

[badbu 94]

i'm not excited about that one... :/ 

[bruce marshall 1258]

[Stark 179]

I’m excited for this film and score, I’m less excited to have had to wait three years for it!

[zoidar 1]

So Lorne Balfe is actually credited as a "Score Producer" on this film. What does that even mean?

 

So who do we actually credit this film's score to? Harold Faltermeyer? Florian Faltermeyer? Hans Zimmer? Lorne Balfe? Andrew Kawcznski? This is pretty confusing.

[Anthony 562]

Who's going to be credited? Zimmer.

 

Who actually wrote the score? Someone else, obviously.

[Stark 179]

10 hours ago, zoidar said:

So Lorne Balfe is actually credited as a "Score Producer" on this film. What does that even mean?

 

So who do we actually credit this film's score to? Harold Faltermeyer? Florian Faltermeyer? Hans Zimmer? Lorne Balfe? Andrew Kawcznski? This is pretty confusing.

I’m pretty sure “Score Producer” is Zimmer’s code for “this is a co-composer but I’m not allowed to say that”. So I guess the current outlook is a collaboration between Faltermeyer, Zimmer, and Balfe.

[Edmilson 4477]

Zimmer was credited as "producer" on the score for the first POTC movie, but he ended up writing a big chunk of that score, including (I think) the main theme. Years later, Balfe received the "score produced by" credit on Sherlock Holmes but apparently he ghostwrote a lot of cues (which only makes Zimmer's Oscar nom for that movie really weird).

 

So yeah, "producer" in this case is a fancy synonym of "additional composer".

[LSH 775]

10 hours ago, zoidar said:

So Lorne Balfe is actually credited as a "Score Producer" on this film. What does that even mean?

 

He watched them do it while he was writing Mission Impossible 14.

[zoidar 1]

On 15/03/2022 at 9:42 AM, Stark said:

I’m pretty sure “Score Producer” is Zimmer’s code for “this is a co-composer but I’m not allowed to say that”. So I guess the current outlook is a collaboration between Faltermeyer, Zimmer, and Balfe.

Well that really clears things up! Thanks a lot

 

I really hope the score for this one is good. I have a love-hate relationship with Zimmer. And Balfe is usually not my cup of tea. 

 

I just hope it doesn't sound like autopilot RCP (something that just sounds like reused cues from Transformers or Terminator Genisys or The Dark Knight)

[mrbellamy 5619]

Looks like the thread title does, in fact, need a co-composer update but not with Lorne Balfe!

 

 

[Edmilson 4477]

A Lady Gaga score for Top Gun? Sure, why not?

 

While we're at it, I also would want to hear an Ariana Grande score for Die Hard and a Miley Cyrus score for Terminator, both in collaboration with Zimmer (and Balfe) 

[LSH 775]

Bananarama for Dune: Part 2!

 

My pop references only go back so far.

[antovolk 92]

Sounds like basically that her song ends up being integrated a lot in the score for her to warrant this sort of credit 

[Naïve Old Fart 7501]

7 hours ago, LSH said:

Bananarama for Dune: Part 2!

 

My pop references only go back so far.

What about Janet Jackson?

 

What Have You Dune For Me Lately? 

[Stark 179]

I do like when songs are used as themes (as in the middle three Transformers films, for example), so I am not against this.

[Bayesian 993]

On 14/3/2022 at 6:48 PM, Edmilson said:

Zimmer was credited as "producer" on the score for the first POTC movie, but he ended up writing a big chunk of that score, including (I think) the main theme. Years later, Balfe received the "score produced by" credit on Sherlock Holmes but apparently he ghostwrote a lot of cues (which only makes Zimmer's Oscar nom for that movie really weird).

 

So yeah, "producer" in this case is a fancy synonym of "additional composer".

I think I’ve decided that the name Hans Zimmer will be treated in my mind as nothing more than a collectively agreed-upon pseudonym for the ad hoc team of composers that works on any given “Hans Zimmer” score. Kinda like the way the anonymous folks behind bitcoin hide behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. To judge a Zimmer score as a solo effort makes no more sense than judging the writing ability of a newspaper editor-in-chief based on the quality or content of the articles in his/her newspaper. It can’t be done. 

[Smeltington 1066]

Hans Zimmer is a band name!

[Disco Stu 15466]

Oh by the way, which one's Hans?

[Naïve Old Fart 7501]

... and did we tell you the name of the game, boy? We call it "riding the gravy train".

[Edmilson 4477]

7 hours ago, Bayesian said:

I think I’ve decided that the name Hans Zimmer will be treated in my mind as nothing more than a collectively agreed-upon pseudonym for the ad hoc team of composers that works on any given “Hans Zimmer” score. Kinda like the way the anonymous folks behind bitcoin hide behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. To judge a Zimmer score as a solo effort makes no more sense than judging the writing ability of a newspaper editor-in-chief based on the quality or content of the articles in his/her newspaper. It can’t be done. 

This has been one of JWFan's biggest topics of discussion - how much music Zimmer wrote on his own scores and how much was written by assistants?

 

From what I know, I think it depends from score to score. In some of them he has a more hands-on approach and writes large portions of it (Interstellar and Dune, for example), in others he writes just a theme or two and let the Zimlings do the job (like in any DreamWorks animation credited to him), but in most of them it's, as you said, a team work.

[HunterTech 684]

I tried making this particular point in a different thread (before the person I spoke to misunderstood me), but there's generally too much of Zimmer's own DNA throughout most of his scores to where it can be that easy to pick out moments where it definitely isn't him. You have to be super dedicated to the whole RCP empire to pick out the little things that sound more like the supporting crew, but even that's subject to much scrutiny when very few tidbits have been confirmed or heavily rumored. After a certain point: you just decide there's no point in figuring it out and simply enjoy the music regardless of who did what.

[Mephariel 309]

1 hour ago, HunterTech said:

I tried making this particular point in a different thread (before the person I spoke to misunderstood me), but there's generally too much of Zimmer's own DNA throughout most of his scores to where it can be that easy to pick out moments where it definitely isn't him. You have to be super dedicated to the whole RCP empire to pick out the little things that sound more like the supporting crew, but even that's subject to much scrutiny when very few tidbits have been confirmed or heavily rumored. After a certain point: you just decide there's no point in figuring it out and simply enjoy the music regardless of who did what.

 

Film music fans remain the last strange group of movie fans who still can't accept collaboration. Directors have second units, and there is a reason why the cinematographer is called Director of Photography. Actors have stunt doubles to make them look superhuman and body doubles to do what they don't want. Writers write together in writers' rooms and many people go uncredited. Joe Kramer said literally only a handful of composers do not write in teams. And yet people romanticize about a solo artist toiling away. Why? I am not sure. 

 

And this goes beyond Hollywood as well. Novelists write in pairs, uses ghostwriters, additional writers, etc. Stephen King and Peter Straub wrote The Talisman and Black House together, but those novels are referred to as Stephen King's novels. When you read a novel written by two novelists, do you endless complain about the fact you don't know which line is written by which author? 

 

Film music fans are a strange bunch. 

[Edmilson 4477]

9 minutes ago, Mephariel said:

 

Film music fans remain the last strange group of movie fans who still can't accept collaboration. Directors have second units, and there is a reason why the cinematographer is called Director of Photography. Actors have stunt doubles to make them look superhuman and body doubles to do what they don't want. Writers write together in writers' rooms and many people go uncredited. Joe Kramer said literally only a handful of composers do not write in teams. And yet people romanticize about a solo artist toiling away. Why? I am not sure. 

 

And this goes beyond Hollywood as well. Novelists write in pairs, uses ghostwriters, additional writers, etc. Stephen King and Peter Straub wrote The Talisman and Black House together, but those novels are referred to as Stephen King's novels. When you read a novel written by two novelists, do you endless complain about the fact you don't know which line is written by which author? 

 

Film music fans are a strange bunch. 

[greenturnedblue 258]

[Lord Zimmer 209]

6 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Who animated this? Who wrote that line? Who was responsible for the graphics? 

[Richard Penna 2496]

7 hours ago, Mephariel said:

 

Film music fans remain the last strange group of movie fans who still can't accept collaboration.

 

Blame it on the marketing

 

If a soundtrack CD said 'Score produced by Composer A', and the back cover contained the names of 5 composers, I don't think this would be such an issue with us.

 

But it says 'Music composed by Composer A'. In cases of ghostwriting/co-composing where at least one other person has composed, that's simply untrue.

 

And because our bunch puts so much emphasis on seeing our beloved composers' names on the cover, we're naturally going to assume things based on what we read.

 

'Music by ...' is more vague, but still carries an implication of an individual. 

 

Whereas a 'Directed by' credit is not making a statement about having done every last job on the film, and of course film credits list everyone who worked on the film. I don't think the two can be entirely compared.