How many minutes (approximately) of unreleased music do these scores have?

[King Mark 2703]

Just trying to make a list of the unexpanded Williams scores we don't have good sounding  bootlegs or leaked sessions

 

Just need the amount of unreleased music next to the score (as far as we know )

 

I'll add  the numbers to the titles as you reply

 

-Accidental Tourist

-BFG

-The Book Thief

-Catch Me if You Can

-Earthquake

-The Eiger Sanction

-Far and Away (don't count the bootleg)

-Memoirs of a Geisha

-Nixon

-The Patriot

-War Horse

-Tintin

 

 

1) Expanded Release Important:

 

-The Force Awakens- Probably a lot

-Amistad -about 40 minutes

-Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azcaban -45 minutes + many alternates(?)

-Born on the fourth of July (don't count the bootleg) -about 25 minutes

-Angela's Ashes-  about 15 minutes

-The Terminal- 10 minutes +many alternates

-JFK - A lot

-Images- 12 minutes

-Monsignor-less than 5 minutes? + unused music?

2)Expanded Release Less Important (unless there's a lot of unused music and alternates)

 

-Munich - 5 minutes + 1 long alternate

-Always -about 5 minutes

-Lincoln -less than 5  minutes

-Presumed Innocent-less than 5 minutes

-The River-less than 5 minutes

-Sabrina -less than 5 minutes

-Sleepers-less than 5 minutes

-Stepmom -less than 5 minutes

 

-Spacecamp- Docking fanfare  + ?

[Corellian2019 255]

Images is missing some music as well, albeit not more than 5-10 minutes' worth

[Manakin Skywalker 1994]

You're not going to be able to figure out how much of TFA is missing. Nobody knows.

[Kasey Kockroach 2147]

Enough missing to drive all of you crazy until the Mike Mattiesino dude comes to the rescue! 😜 

[Arpy 3815]

Quote

-The Force Awakens

847 minutes approx.

[Jurassic Shark 7122]

Who cares? The OSTs are perfect.

[Incanus 5365]

26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Who cares? The OSTs are perfect.

[Arpy 3815]

1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Who cares? The OSTs are perfect.

Shut up Thor- oh, it's you!

 

 

[Kasey Kockroach 2147]

10 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Who cares? The OSTs are perfect.

[pete 414]

There’s a short cue for solo guitar in Angela’s Ashes. Probably less than a minute long but I haven’t seen the film

since it was released 

[King Mark 2703]

that's it?

[pete 414]

That's all I noticed. I only noticed it because I play guitar and knew there was no guitar in the OST. I wasn't specifically listening for unreleased music.

[Unlucky Bastard 7747]

All that music is missing for good reason.

[Kasey Kockroach 2147]

If it's missing from the album, it means the music sucks and the composer did you a favor leaving it out!

[Nick Parker 2990]

1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said:

If it's missing from the album, it means the music sucks and the composer did you a favor leaving it out!

 

Or that it just didn't fit in with the musical narrative the composer envisioned with the album!

[Kasey Kockroach 2147]

That's a slightly less snarky answer, yes.

[Nick Parker 2990]

Keep the TV cue away from The Terminal album!

[Unlucky Bastard 7747]

I hate that stupid anthem in The Terminal OST. Should have been left off.

 

But I like having CMIYC and The Terminal on my playlist when I'm travelling for work.

[Naïve Old Fart 5092]

Since they were rerecordings, THE EIGER SANCTION and EARTHQUAKE are all unreleased.

THE ACCIDENTAL TOURIST is missing THE TRIP TO LONDON (film version), THE HEALING PROCESS (extended), and the music heard in the cinema. 

[Brundlefly 1883]

Always around 5 minutes

Amistad around 40 minutes

Angela's Ashes definitely more than 1 minute! I would say around 15 minutes, but I don't know

Born on the Fourth of July around 25 minutes

JFK an unestimateable amount of music, but it's a lot

Munich around 5 minutes + one long alternate

The Terminal around 10 minutes + many alternates

Azkaban around 45 minutes + 45 minutes alternates?

Less than 5 minutes: Lincoln, Presumed Innocent, Sleepers, The River, Sabrina, Stepmom

[Corellian2019 255]

Presumed Innocent is tricky, because a majority of the music is derived from the main theme, and it's unclear, from memory, if the unreleased cues are simply tracked music, and if they replace other cues (ex. "Leon Talks"). The CD is definitely missing the main titles and the election night source music

[King Mark 2703]

feel free to add more or more precise calculations

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10242]

John Williams writes music every day. Even when he's not working. The majority of it will never be released.

[King Mark 2703]

we'll empty his trashbins and record it

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10242]

I doubt it will even be preserved.

[Kasey Kockroach 2147]

If the complete scores were released in the first place, we’d just complain the OSTs are too long.

[King Mark 2703]

only you and a few others

Just now, kaseykockroach said:

If the complete scores were released in the first place, we’d just complain the OSTs are too long.

 

[Kasey Kockroach 2147]

And movie-wave.  

[The Illustrious Jerry 2978]

On ‎11‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 3:27 AM, Manakin Skywalker said:

You're not going to be able to figure out how much of TFA is missing. Nobody knows.

I know. Too much, that's what's missing.

 

 Awaiting CR

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6471]

On 11/9/2018 at 8:12 PM, King Mark said:

-Always -about 5 minutes

 

Too many.

[Kasey Kockroach 2147]

That’s more than twice what Saving Private Ryan was missing before LLL came to the rescue!

[King Mark 2703]

You can also point out if an amazing highlight is missing from the OST , especially those with little unreleased music. That could still make a release worthwhile

 

 

[Brundlefly 1883]

Then add something like "an important cue that is very different from the rest of the score" to The Terminal.

 

And Catch Me If You Can is basically unreleased, since the OST is kind of a re-recording, according to other members here.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6471]

Space Camp is missing a perky bouncy cue to accompany this beautiful scene:

 

[Corellian2019 255]

Just updating my earlier post to say that Images is missing 12 minutes of music

[King Mark 2703]

ok

 

anyone knows Tintin and BFG?

[Corellian2019 255]

The Accidental Tourist=missing 5 minutes (possibly more, including the unused, unreleased wedding cue)

[Brundlefly 1883]

The Patriot: 20-30 minutes

 

Catch Me If You Can: the whole film score is either a different recording than on the album or a considerably different mix!

[crumbs 9498]

On 11/20/2018 at 4:25 AM, King Mark said:

ok

 

anyone knows Tintin and BFG?

 

Pretty substantial for Tintin because Williams essentially scored the film twice, one year apart. 

[bollemanneke 1933]

Huh? I never knew that. Are you saying he re-wrote most of it?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10242]

He recorded a substantial portion of the score to an early cut of the film, then about a year later recorded it again for a tightened up cut. What you hear in the movie is a combination of both recording sessions.

[Brundlefly 1883]

On 11/10/2018 at 5:12 AM, King Mark said:

-Born on the fourth of July (don't count the bootleg) -about 25 minutes

-Angela's Ashes-  about 15 minutes

-The Terminal- 10 minutes +many alternates

-JFK - A lot

-Images- 12 minutes

-Monsignor-less than 5 minutes? + unused music?

I get eye cancer from your poor formating. Your blank character seems to be doing whatever it wants to do:

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Wow, out of these six lines, you got it right only one fucking time. If I was just a little bit more nitpicky, I would immediately die from a heart attack.

[Jurassic Shark 7122]

Too bad you weren't then.

[Romão 1625]

I'll have to thorough analysis of Sleepers, but I think it is missing a substantial amount of music

[Brundlefly 1883]

5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Too bad you weren't then.

You're nicer than that.

[Jurassic Shark 7122]

4 minutes ago, Brundlefly said:

You're nicer than that.

 

Okay, but beware that some people can't help it if they don't write perfectly. Others just don't care. I have no idea which category JW's royal dentist belongs to.

 

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6471]

King Mark frequently uses awful punctuation.

[King Mark 2703]

French is my first language.

And also I don't care about punctuation.

[Cerebral Cortex 2283]

6 minutes ago, King Mark said:

French is my first language.

And also I don't care about punctuation.

 

English is the primary first language over here in the states and it would seem most over here don't care about punctuation either so you get a pass. 

[Unlucky Bastard 7747]

No money down.

 

No, money down.